SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

If anyone here wants to assist with figuring out the move data fields, here is a CSV of every field: https://pastebin.com/L7aY5BAG
I was checking the PunchFlag but the SoundFlag next column is actually the real field instead. Something's wrong with the table?
Anyway, Jet Punch and Rage Fist are punching moves as expected, but for some reason Headlong Rush is also one. I don't know if this is a programming mistake.
 
I was checking the PunchFlag but the SoundFlag next column is actually the real field instead. Something's wrong with the table?
Anyway, Jet Punch and Rage Fist are punching moves as expected, but for some reason Headlong Rush is also one. I don't know if this is a programming mistake.
Yeah, flags have been moved slightly for some reason. If those are wrong, then it just means I didn't catch them. I'll update the paste soon with some more labelled fields, along with a fix for those two. If you see any more weird flags, do mention it.
 
Yeah, flags have been moved slightly for some reason. If those are wrong, then it just means I didn't catch them. I'll update the paste soon with some more labelled fields, along with a fix for those two. If you see any more weird flags, do mention it.
The DefrostFlag here is actually the GravityFlag.
An interesting find: Axe Kick is a weaker High Jump Kick on paper, but has no GravityFlag, i.e. is not affected by Gravity.

Edit: Many people say Axe Kick is Rider Kick because Lokix can learn it, but it's more identical to the axe kick finisher called "Gills Heel Claw" by Kamen Rider Gills (from Kamen Rider Agito).
 
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hello everyone i've seen a lot of people having trouble with memorizing the ruinous quartet's names, so i decided to make a guide on how i was able to memorize their names myself! welcome to:

lydian's culturally inaccurate guide to memorizing the ruinous quartet's namestm

chien-pao:
this one is the easiest to memorize! as someone in this thread mentioned, but i realized that beforehand because i'm so much more smarter than them, "chien" is dog in french — which are similar to leopards, of course — which may seem odd as all the letters are pronounced! which is not something that normally happens in french. this should be familiar to us pokémon players, as it is the etymology of species like poochyena, as well as the term "shiny" itself, as the most common shiny pokémon canonically is poochyena when you're soft resetting for a shiny starter in the third generation games. "pao", on the other hand, is an anagram of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th letters of "leopard" and it also kinda sounds like if, if you squint your ears a lot!

chi-yu:
you don't need to use any tricks to memorize who chi-yu is, because it is the best of the four, so you just memorize it instinctively, because it deserves so! but if you still want some tips, then fine: chi-yu is clearly a contraction of "i choose you", which is what you say to chi-yu because it is the coolest (actually the warmest) of the four, and also the greek letter "chi" looks like an "x" which is the letter we use to represent when choosing an option, say, in a multiple choice exam, so if there was a multiple choice exam with the four ruinous pokémon as options, you'd "chi" chi-yu, of course.

wo-chien:
wo-chien also has "chien" in it, however it comes second as opposed to chien-pao, so wo-chien is based on an animal that is dog-like, but less doglike than a leopard. obviously, we're looking for a snail. the "wo" bit is two thirds of "owo" which is the face you make when you see a wo-chien.

ting-lu:
ting-lu you can memorize as "the other one", but since that's boring, i decided to come up with a way to memorize it still. so. "ting-lu" sounds like "igloo", if you turn an igloo upside down, it becomes the upside down of the opposite of an igloo, which is a pyramid, of course. since igloos are cold and pyramids are hot, it's basic math, honestly. so, as you can see, ting-lu has an upside down pyramid on it's back, connecting it to igloo, connecting it to its name "ting-lu". you're welcome!

(note: this post is meant as a joke, if that wasn't clear, please don't actually take any of this seriously, and do research the actual etymology of these names because it's much cooler than whatever it is i did above in this shitpost)
 
hello everyone i've seen a lot of people having trouble with memorizing the ruinous quartet's names, so i decided to make a guide on how i was able to memorize their names myself! welcome to:

lydian's culturally inaccurate guide to memorizing the ruinous quartet's namestm

chien-pao:
this one is the easiest to memorize! as someone in this thread mentioned, but i realized that beforehand because i'm so much more smarter than them, "chien" is dog in french — which are similar to leopards, of course — which may seem odd as all the letters are pronounced! which is not something that normally happens in french. this should be familiar to us pokémon players, as it is the etymology of species like poochyena, as well as the term "shiny" itself, as the most common shiny pokémon canonically is poochyena when you're soft resetting for a shiny starter in the third generation games. "pao", on the other hand, is an anagram of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th letters of "leopard" and it also kinda sounds like if, if you squint your ears a lot!

chi-yu:
you don't need to use any tricks to memorize who chi-yu is, because it is the best of the four, so you just memorize it instinctively, because it deserves so! but if you still want some tips, then fine: chi-yu is clearly a contraction of "i choose you", which is what you say to chi-yu because it is the coolest (actually the warmest) of the four, and also the greek letter "chi" looks like an "x" which is the letter we use to represent when choosing an option, say, in a multiple choice exam, so if there was a multiple choice exam with the four ruinous pokémon as options, you'd "chi" chi-yu, of course.

wo-chien:
wo-chien also has "chien" in it, however it comes second as opposed to chien-pao, so wo-chien is based on an animal that is dog-like, but less doglike than a leopard. obviously, we're looking for a snail. the "wo" bit is two thirds of "owo" which is the face you make when you see a wo-chien.

ting-lu:
ting-lu you can memorize as "the other one", but since that's boring, i decided to come up with a way to memorize it still. so. "ting-lu" sounds like "igloo", if you turn an igloo upside down, it becomes the upside down of the opposite of an igloo, which is a pyramid, of course. since igloos are cold and pyramids are hot, it's basic math, honestly. so, as you can see, ting-lu has an upside down pyramid on it's back, connecting it to igloo, connecting it to its name "ting-lu". you're welcome!

(note: this post is meant as a joke, if that wasn't clear, please don't actually take any of this seriously, and do research the actual etymology of these names because it's much cooler than whatever it is i did above in this shitpost)
Hell no.
 
So since Cresselia has -10 in both defenses, I think it could be safe to say Darkrai will have its SpA and Speed nerfed as well and may be returning in the DLC.
I don't think it's safe to say. The problem with Darkrai was its signature move which already got nuked (at not even because of it). But if that happens it'll be nice to see it in ou (or maybe even lower depending on how the meta goes)
 
I was checking the PunchFlag but the SoundFlag next column is actually the real field instead. Something's wrong with the table?
Anyway, Jet Punch and Rage Fist are punching moves as expected, but for some reason Headlong Rush is also one. I don't know if this is a programming mistake.

Probably already answered but this thread is 246 pages long so screw it lol

Is Razor Shell a cutting move? As in boosted by Sharpness?

EDIT: RAZOR SHELL IS BOOSTED BOYS
 
I don't think it's safe to say. The problem with Darkrai was its signature move which already got nuked (at not even because of it). But if that happens it'll be nice to see it in ou (or maybe even lower depending on how the meta goes)
Well both are a Duo and they nerfed Zamazenta with the same BST drop as Zacian and both their abilities got nerfed too. Would be uncharacteristic of them to nerf Cresselia’s BST and not Darkrai’s.
 
Probably already answered but this thread is 246 pages long so screw it lol

Is Razor Shell a cutting move? As in boosted by Sharpness?
Field54 appears to be for "slicing" moves?
List:
Code:
Cut
Razor Leaf
Slash
Fury Cutter
Air Cutter
Aerial Ace
Leaf Blade
Night Slash
Air Slash
X-Scissor
Psycho Cut
Cross Poison
Sacred Sword
Razor Shell
Solar Blade
Behemoth Blade
Stone Axe
Ceaseless Edge
Population Bomb
Kowtow Cleave
Bitter Blade
Aqua Cutter

Here.
 
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What I'm most curious about is if Kilowattrel can self-proc with its own Tailwind- it might be a decent VGC lead in that case.
 
Well both are a Duo and they nerfed Zamazenta with the same BST drop as Zacian and both their abilities got nerfed too. Would be uncharacteristic of them to nerf Cresselia’s BST and not Darkrai’s.
Well, Darkrai already is a "duo" with Cresselia since they both share a theme, but one is legendary while the other is mythical. Personally, I wouldn't find it so strange if Darkrai remained the same, especially as Darkrai is not allowed on VGC.
 
The CSV paste has been edited for some small changes. I've removed SoundFlag and DefrostFlag for now, at least until the correct fields are found, renamed some fields, and added TurnMax and TurnMin.

EDIT: Sorry, I mean HitMax and HitMin. Unsure where TurnMax and TurnMin are.
 
Well both are a Duo and they nerfed Zamazenta with the same BST drop as Zacian and both their abilities got nerfed too. Would be uncharacteristic of them to nerf Cresselia’s BST and not Darkrai’s.
Well yes that would be the reason if it happened but Cress has been a problem in VGC while Darkrai hasn't and VGC is the primary reason for nerfs
 
Well yes that would be the reason if it happened but Cress has been a problem in VGC while Darkrai hasn't and VGC is the primary reason for nerfs
Cress hasn't actually been a problem in VGC, in fact it has seen almost 0 play in last few formats, because there's better options if you want a insanely bulky TR setter that isnt weak to Incineroar.

The only reason Cress got nerfs is cause she got a very strong new signature move that now, combined with being insanely bulky AND the ability to Terastalyze, would probably actually push it over the top.

Consider them "preemptive nerfs".
 
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