SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

Did you actually see the leaked images for them?
You'd kinda be surprised that despite the names, they have... interesting features.

Those two are trios not to have seen a spotlight recently. (The birds got regional variants, the genies feature prominently in PLA, the Regis got new members)

I think them being fusions is a neat idea and I wonder if the typings will match that.
 
But then my question for some of them are can they learn these unobtainable egg moves from raid encounters? Like can you catch a grimsnarl with parting shot?
I mean... potentially? I don't see a reason for it not to be the case.
However, from what I saw, raids have fixed movesets per star level / pokemon. I havent really found a Grimmsnarl one, if i do i'll let you know.
 
The only methods that are ""axed"" are methods that involved using items not in the game or using moves in a style certain times, as well as the crossgen evos.
Goomy cannot evolve into H-Sliggoo. H-Sliggoo can however evolve in H-Goodra
according to Centro, Goomy can still evolve into H-Sliggoo being the only the crossgen evo that can still. Of course he might just be full of shit but it would be interesting to look into
 
I want to believe that its held item related, like how the Everstone passes down natures and the Destiny Knot passes down IVs. But if there is something like this implemented, we might not know for sure until the full datamine.

The only items that I can think of that could fit are maybe Wise Glasses or Expert Belt, assuming a "tutoring" angle.
And if nothing else, there'll be guide books!

the last bastion of all our confusion
 
according to Centro, Goomy can still evolve into H-Sliggoo being the only the crossgen evo that can still. Of course he might just be full of shit but it would be interesting to look into
The way Goomy is written internally is this

Evolutions:
0:
Level: 40
Condition: LEVELUP
Parameters: [0, 0, 0, 0]
Species: Sliggoo
Form: 0
1:
Level: 0
Condition: UNKNOWN_61
Parameters: [1, 0, 0, 0]
Species: Sliggoo
Form: 0

Since it only specifies Sliggoo form 0 (normal Sliggoo), I suspect Centro just misread this.
 
according to Centro, Goomy can still evolve into H-Sliggoo being the only the crossgen evo that can still. Of course he might just be full of shit but it would be interesting to look into

Also on the talk of new Eviolite abusers I kinda wonder if H-Sliggoo could be one or if its stats let it down to the point of all being used when certain mons are broken like OG Sliggoo.
 
according to Centro, Goomy can still evolve into H-Sliggoo being the only the crossgen evo that can still. Of course he might just be full of shit but it would be interesting to look into
I call Centro once more just read someone else's data dump and tried to call them leaks. The usual bullshit :P

Expecially as tecnically, Goomy has exactly same condition to evolve in Sliggo / H-Sliggoo, so there's no way that'd work.
 
The way Goomy is written internally is this

Evolutions:
0:
Level: 40
Condition: LEVELUP
Parameters: [0, 0, 0, 0]
Species: Sliggoo
Form: 0
1:
Level: 0
Condition: UNKNOWN_61
Parameters: [1, 0, 0, 0]
Species: Sliggoo
Form: 0

Since it only specifies Sliggoo form 0 (normal Sliggoo), I suspect Centro just misread this.
I see though why does Goomy have 2 seperate ways to evolve lol
 
If this is actually true then thats a pretty good buff for the ones who can evolve due to access to egg moves
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"It will be forever exclusive to PLA"

Unless they, y'know, chance 4 lines of coding in a patch. And a patch to allow connectivity with HOME and therefore PLA will be a thing in a few months.

This guy is fueling doomerist shitposting.
 
How can we transfer clearly extinct regional forms(Hisuains) across time and space to modern day?


The answer is to not worry about it.
I wish that like, the postgame region in Scarlet let you find Hisuian mons and/or evolve mons like Braviary/Sliggoo. It's supposed to be imagination of the past, right? But it's based on a book of "research notes"? Let actual research notes get mixed in - people's imagination bringing back extinct mons because they believe it's the past.

The problem with this idea is that Violet doesn't get anything.
 
I see though why does Goomy have 2 seperate ways to level up lol
who knows. The line can be kind of weird
Did you know that in Gen 7, and only Gen 7, Sliggoo could evolve into Goodra not only in the rain, but if it was foggy? And they removed this i nGen 8, even though fog/mist was a more present condition
 
The only methods that are ""axed"" are methods that involved using items not in the game or using moves in a style certain times, as well as the crossgen evos.
Goomy cannot evolve into H-Sliggoo. H-Sliggoo can however evolve in H-Goodra


Yesterday we did a bunch of tests for breeding, and purposely used a Azumarill knowing literally only water gun, toghether with another Azumarill (of opposing gender) which had a Sing egg move bred earlier.

Despite over a hour of attemtps, we did get eggs, but no egg move was transfer, not directly, nor in the relearner moveset.

That's really disheartening and is putting me off....See I thought they would have kept this so I wasn't worried about movesets getting deleted because while a hassle it wouldn't waste shinies I have or 5-6 IV Pokemon I bred before. If so then why transfer at all or why bother with a Pokemon game again? I'm not going to rebreed mons I want to use each game personally. It's actually off putting and I was looking forward to the game too...

Edit: But then that info did come from Centro and while there is precedent for it....well all I can hope for is that it's bull.
 
The answer is that none of the hisuian forms were ever stated nor implied to be extinct in the first place and that Pokémon fans are not good at making worldbuilding theories lol
Except the Hisui is Sinnoh, and none of them exist in the modern day.

BDSP even took this a step further and included a new book about Manaphy, and instead of Overquil, which is the Pokemon the book was referring to due to PLA, they called Overquil a "Big Qwillfish".


Besides, time travel and the multiverse are canon things in Pokemon, going back to Gen 2.
 
I see though why does Goomy have 2 seperate ways to level up lol

who knows. The line can be kind of weird
Did you know that in Gen 7, and only Gen 7, Sliggoo could evolve into Goodra not only in the rain, but if it was foggy? And they removed this i nGen 8, even though fog/mist was a more present condition

Realistically it's because there's no Hisuian Goomy.
It's just Sliggoo that evolves in Hisuian Sliggoo or normal one depending on the *region* it's in.

It's necessary that the evolutionary connection is coded in for breeding and eviolite shenenigans, even if they don't plan to let the evolution actually happen.

Same concept of say, Alolan-Exegutor, which I'm somewhat confident has similar coding in SwSh, where it's still shown as evolving from Exeggcute even though you can't actually make Exeggcute evolve into it.
 
That's really disheartening and is putting me off....See I thought they would have kept this so I wasn't worried about movesets getting deleted because while a hassle it wouldn't waste shinies I have or 5-6 IV Pokemon I bred before. If so then why transfer at all or why bother with a Pokemon game again? I'm not going to rebreed mons I want to use each game personally.
Sir if you don't have fun or don't think will have fun with the new pokemon games, I recommend you to not buy them. That's it.
 
Realistically it's because there's no Hisuian Goomy.
It's just Sliggoo that evolves in Hisuian Sliggoo or normal one depending on the *region* it's in.

It's necessary that the evolutionary connection is coded in for breeding and eviolite shenenigans, even if they don't plan to let the evolution actually happen.

Same concept of say, Alolan-Exegutor, which I'm somewhat confident has similar coding in SwSh, where it's still shown as evolving from Exeggcute even though you can't actually make Exeggcute evolve into it.
It's actually not necessary for that at all because others like Pikachu doesn't have the same bit of code at all

And as I said before, that method specifies normal Sliggoo, not Hisuian Sliggoo
 
Ugh, I'm trying to parse the gender ratios and I'm not understanding how genderless works for Tandemaus/Maushold. They have a "rate" value, for some reason...?

Huh, could this be the value for Maushold's different forms? On 4ch they've been struggling to figure out what the requirements are to get the 4-Family VS the 3-Family form.
 
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