been taking a lot of Ls today, might need to just head to the pokemon center at this rate
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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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Pokemon and inner consistency is a lost battle. And "no those are extinct variants" is crap, specially for stuff like Ursaluna or Wyrdeer.
To say nothing of the travesty those regional Sneasel and Qwilfish were, or how we didn't really need a third Basculin.
At least we seem to be now back on track with regular evolutions. Galar also had that crap of regional variant-only evolutions.
To say nothing of the travesty those regional Sneasel and Qwilfish were, or how we didn't really need a third Basculin.
At least we seem to be now back on track with regular evolutions. Galar also had that crap of regional variant-only evolutions.
Well Violet ROM only very recently got dumped from what I know.
Give it a couple days for people to parse the data as well.
Not my fault they went with fusions bro.
Hmm. I'm not sure.
For some reason, certain female-only Pokemon also have a rate - of 50%, for:
- Basculegion-1
- Oinkologne-1
- Tinkatink
- Tinkatuff
- Tinkaton
I guess they just messed up the rate values for the newer Pokemon? And I imagine it doesn't affect anything in-game, anyway...
That really doesn't argue what I said. In Sword and Shield I could slap the battle ready symbol on something and for egg moves do the transfer thing and it was fine. I never said about not having fun in SV which has nothing to do with it.
"Surely they don't make the new evolutions into soft regional evolutions again"
[gen 10 does that]
"ah well never the less"
Huh all the Violet paradoxes come from different paranomal magazines
I wonder if the dex gimmick here is in Scarlet its like
Scarlet Paradoxes: line up with the expedition journal
Violet Paradoxes: mysteriously line up with some paranormal magazine
but in Violet
Scarlet Paradoxes: line up with a different kind of magazine
Violet Paradoxes: line up with the expedition journal
Could it be that each individual mouse has a gender, and that's the rate for a kid's gender? Maybe that's how it decides what form it evolves into?
I saw someone mention that headlong rush has the "punch" tag, if the punching glove item is just a held version of iron fist then you can get a 20% boost on a ground type close combat. Great Tusk doesn't seem to be able to make use of other punch moves, but both ursaluna and hariyama have a whole slew of them.
Well the alternate pikachus are Ash's pikachu specifically, and it is indeed male...
Ah, alright - that makes more sense.
From the way that it works in Essentials (though I recognize the main series can be different), for Pokemon with Meowstic-level sexual dimorphism, the species has a gender ratio, and then the gender determines what form it is. So all the forms have a gender ratio of 50% even if the individual form is 100% male/female.
Though that doesn't explain the Tinkatink line.
I'm actually interested in the height and weight categories, since I've heard that there is size variation in this game. I want to see if this is actually true, and how big or small 'mons can be per species.
I believe the way variation works is that the number in the Pokedex is the species average, and then the RNG produces a number that multiplies by said value.
i love the flavor of all the future paradox mons being birthed from pulp sci-fi and conspiracy theories. gives them some personality that they were lacking imo.
absolutely brutal
Still 100 bp and it's not a biting or even contact move. It's just a stronger Icicle Crash with the same 30% flinch rate. Its PP is now increased to 10 though.
And no new biting move is added in SV.
Scarlet seemed to have generic "this comes from a book" entries for the past mons, and now the future ones are more interesting "this comes from a magazine where they talked about a Hydriegon that loved a robot".
I wonder if Violet has the opposite. The past mons have interesting dex entries and the future mons are just "this is from a conspiracy theory".
I'm guessing yes, though the book in question is the Scarlet/Violet Book that Arven carries.
the website also has a little blurb that I presume also comes from the book (the screenshot above is a composite)
So basically the Scarlet entries just mention the Scarlet Book while a more "involved" entry is present in the Book itself. But since the Violet Book doesn't exist, those Violet Paradox Pokemon get more worldbuild-y flavorful entries.
Thus, it'd make sense for Violet to have a reverse situation. Violet paradoxes just go "found this in the exploration journal" while the Scarlet paradoxes reference something else (maybe more paranormal journals, maybe bunk prehistoric journals, whatever)
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Huh, just like IRL Stonehenge.
Dawg im pretty sure they aren't in any modern sinnoh games and overqwil wasn't mentioned by name because literally every single Sinnoh game came out before Legends so the Hisui mons didn't exist yet. Do I really have to explain that "the book says its a qwilfish with big spikes" isn't a retcon of overqwil but rather a "They didn't reveal overqwil yet so they very obviously can't talk about it"? This is literally like saying Lickilicky is extinct in Kanto because its not in RBY nor FRLG.
Not to mention Paras and Vulpix are in PLA but not DPP so even if you for some reason want to die on the hill that they don't exist in modern sinnoh despite there being no post-pla sinnoh games, they aren't necessarily extinct everywhere. Much like how Paras used to exist in sinnoh, doens't exist in modern sinnoh but exists in other regions, wyrdeer could have existed in sinnoh, not be in modern sinnoh but still be in modern games
I really don't get why ppl think the hisui mons are extinct or why they think SV should use some time travel explaination on why these species exist when there really isn't much suggesting they don't exist anymore
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Yes, there are some wild tera pokemon you can catch. Water Jigglypuff is one of them. I also caught a Flying Meowth.