SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

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TURNS OUT EGG MOVE PASSING GOT BETTER! This is how

I put Mirror Herb on two Pokemon: quaquaval and kilowattrel. My Quaquaval had 3 moves, and Kilowatrel had Roost (which is an egg move). I went into the picnic

Quaquaval got Roost!

It goes further too: EGG GROUPS DO NOT MATTER FOR THIS!

I got Rapid Spin on Quaquaval from a Cyclizar via this same method, neither of which share an egg group!


I'm not sure which one has to hold mirror herb yet (I'll test that soon), but I figured this was important enough to mention NOW.

This also means that Basculegion should be able to get Last Rites via Houndstone passing it down with Mirror Herb!

My god........ no more egg move chains..................... should we start calling them something else now that they're not even related to breeding itself LOL
 
So...there's no incubator, huh? That was something mentioned by Khu/kaka for a while iirc, one that operated on real time, but from the sound of things eggs hatch nearly instantly and there doesnt seem to be an incubator item at all
 
Has anyone compiled a locations guide for the stakes you need to pull to get the 4 legendaries?
My guy, the game has been out for...

-5 days.

I think you should at least let the game released before asking for full on guides on the locations of gameplay based mechanisms. Just let the game be released and people will be making countless guides for it.

Ironically, there is one already...

It's just covered in slurs against Centro because it's from 4Chan. :tymp: :regiF:
 
So...there's no incubator, huh? That was something mentioned by Khu/kaka for a while iirc, one that operated on real time, but from the sound of things eggs hatch nearly instantly and there doesnt seem to be an incubator item at all

I think incubators was a speculation that got out of hand due to big leak accounts. What Khu actually said was that the new method of breeding was "more convenient" for working adults. He was most likely referring to how eggs can be generated AFK at the picnic rather than an incubator.
 
So people are
So...there's no incubator, huh? That was something mentioned by Khu/kaka for a while iirc, one that operated on real time, but from the sound of things eggs hatch nearly instantly and there doesnt seem to be an incubator item at all
Kaka said something akin to “wait 2 hours” after you get an egg. Perhaps they changed how quickly eggs hatch or something in development. He never directly mentioned an incubator.
 
The way passing Egg Moves works now is awesome. Where is the earliest/easiest Mirror Herb?

I tried not using all caps, but screw it. I can't stay calm. I DEMAND LEECH SEED AND TOXIC ON EVERYTHING ASAP!
Telling a 4channer to not use a slur for 2 minutes is like telling a person to not breathe for 2 minutes, have some compassion
Do they deserve compassion?
 
Part of me is a little sad that funky bootstrap egg moves like Extreme Speed Dratini used to be and epic sagas of egg move chains like giving honedge wide guard in XY are gone (I believe that path was Mantine -> Mudkip -> Turtwig -> Paras -> Dwebble -> Honedge lol). That said, the other part of me is super happy that access to important attacks has been made even easier. What a fantastic change!

Nosepass is fuming. If only this had been a feature back in the one game it got Head Smash…
 
I found a video showing an egg being hatched:
This confirms that there is still a 20 second long cutscene for every egg that hatches. So even eggs require fewer steps to hatch (someone estimated 15 seconds of overworld movement per egg), you're still spending roughly 50% of your total time watching cutscenes instead of gaining steps.
and the whole cutscene is just koraidon yearning for an omelette and then remembering there's a pokemon inside the egg all while keeping the same face
 
Part of me is a little sad that funky bootstrap egg moves like Extreme Speed Dratini used to be and epic sagas of egg move chains like giving honedge wide guard in XY is gone (I believe that path was Mantine -> Mudkip -> Turtwig -> Paras -> Dwebble -> Honedge lol). That said, the other part of me is super happy that access to important attacks has been made even easier. What a fantastic change!

Nosepass is fuming. If only this had been a feature back in the one game it got Head Smash…
the worst thing with nosepass and head smash is it would've been legal just two generations later and they never brought it back. L

anyway this is kind of nuts. i can see why genderless mons have egg move tables now. there's basically no such thing as an illegal egg move as long as one thing learns the move
 
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Yeah I am throroughly convinced that the hisuian evolutions not being available in the game is merely temporary bc i see no reason why these two items would even be here (With reworkd artwork might I add) if kleavor/ursaluna couldn't be obtained
 
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I think incubators was a speculation that got out of hand due to big leak accounts. What Khu actually said was that the new method of breeding was "more convenient" for working adults. He was most likely referring to how eggs can be generated AFK at the picnic rather than an incubator.
Well I was chitchatting about this with a fellow streamer who happens to do a lot of shiny hunting, and realistically now you can like, make your pokemon make a bunch of eggs that go straight to your boxes (without a prompt) in a row without needing much more than clicking the basket, and then open them all in a row .

Definitely not automatic but it's MUCH faster than keeping going around in circles for hours, swapping every 5 eggs and picking up 5 more from the holder.
 
Telling a 4channer to not use a slur for 2 minutes is like telling a person to not breathe for 2 minutes, have some compassion

On topic: Are there any egg moves that now become accessible that weren't before because there were no compatible chains before?
It explains how Male-only and Genderless mons get Egg Moves now (Biggest being Parting Shot Grimm) and as mentioned in Tmon's post explains how Bascu can get Last Respects. Haven't noticed any others
 
I edited this into the original post, but its worth reposting it here too since I did a bit more testing with Mirror Herb getting egg moves on stuff!

The Pokemon that needs to hold the Mirror Herb is the Pokemon you want to put the egg move on.

I tested this with two picnic instantces with Quaquaval and Cyclizar (both are female btw, so gender does NOT matter).

When Quaquaval was the one holding the mirror herb, it got Rapid Spin.

When Cyclizar was holding Mirror Herb, Quaquaval got nothing.

So for those of you who want to use egg moves for ingame runs, doing it is easy! Just buy a Mirror Herb from the Delibird Gifts in Casacarrafa! It's the town with the Water-type gym in it.
 
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Since when where Energy Roots disembodied arms?
Edit: Turns out always
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How have I seen this sprite so many times (usually after I sold it to the Poké Mart clerk because ain't no way i give up my friendship bonuses) and not noticed this?

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We've come full circle with the similar glitch from Gen 4, though this might get fixed by the time HOME support comes.

Banded Shadow Force Giratina. Awesome. Let's do it.
could probably do something a lot better with this but this is the first thing that came to mind

Some of the big leak accounts said that only the Starters and the Cover Legendaries are shiny-locked. So the Dark Quartet might be new exceptions to the rule. I think I've also seen video footage of someone encountering a Shiny Ding-Lu after SR-ing, but I'm not sure if its been deleted by now.

Shiny Roaring Moon hunt scheduled once I finish Violet let's go. I have been wanting confirmation of this for a long time at this point.

yo just want to point out close combat is not a punching move (unless i'm looking at an outdated pastebin
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"The user fights the target up close without guarding itself. This also lowers the user's Defense and Sp. Def stats." No mention of punching whatsoever. Heck, the S/V animation is likely to be closer to PLA, which completely removes the fists from the animation entirely.
 
I only figured this out because doipy hooves on the Smogon discord pointed out that Khu hinted this back in October btw. I would have never figured this out on my own lol
Cool to see it worked out before it would've been revealed in the strategy guides. Here's the tweet for posterity hinting at Everstone + Destiny Knot + Mirror Herb being breeding items. If the egg moves all save into the Legends-style move list that'll be pretty convenient to set up full mons with.
 
So for those of you who want to use egg moves for ingame runs, doing it is easy! Just buy a Mirror Herb from the Delibird Gifts in Casacarrafa! It's the town with the Water-type gym in it.

Now that egg moves are more viable for in game runs: is putting these mons in a picnic also boosting their amie affection stat? Might be relevant to people who want to avoid amie boosts in the main game (less relevant if you're just bringing them to comp though lol)
 
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