Skerelidge and Couldsire are very consistent walls for Volcarona.
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Resource SV OU Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread
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Skeledirge and Clodsire as mentioned below, but also Dragonite is good if no Tera Fairy, Cinderace is good for checking/stopping it once depending on Tera type, Toxic bulky Garchomp does well, and Rain teams tend to largely dwarf it
Ceruledge completely owns Volcarona, especially the bulky Volc variants that run mono-Fire as their attacking options since they're 100% walled. Thermal Exchange Baxcalibur is also a reasonably decent option into Volc, especially if you Tera Dragon and get the Fire resistance. You can see that one in practice here: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9ou-672487
And of course, all the previously mentioned options work well
i think you can argue for HO or bulky-o
What niche does salamence have in ou to be in the viability rankings
intimidate and wide attacking movepool. more fringe and underexplored, but it has a slight edge over other dragons if you feel that specific niche is important
Fiery Dance almost always.
It can be used on specific types of hyper offense to compress roles, make use of its ability, and abuse its higher speed. Generally it’s harder to justify though.
Classic Smogon ruining Pokémon again
Hey everyone, i have a very simple question :
What are the espathra countermeasures ?
I feel like this mon has no real counter and should be banned quickly
What are the espathra countermeasures ?
I feel like this mon has no real counter and should be banned quickly
Tera Dark Clodsire and SpDef Tera Dark Skeledirge are probably the two Pokemon you could call consistent counters. In theory SpDef Skeledirge is supposed to be able to win without Tera but if they have Protect things can get dicey, and it's even worse if they have Light Screen up. God forbid it's Tera Fire because then you definitely lose... Ting-Lu can Whirlwind it repeatedly, but if it's the last mon left then you need to have another answer.
Depending on whether Espathra carries Protect, Sub, or Roost, and which Tera type it opts for changes the counterplay pretty significantly. I think Tera Dark Clod and Skele are the only truly reliable answers, where as long as you keep them remotely healthy (and preserve your Tera) you shouldn't have to worry about Espathra.
I also think this bird is broken and needs to go, but for now that's what I'm using to get by
Depending on whether Espathra carries Protect, Sub, or Roost, and which Tera type it opts for changes the counterplay pretty significantly. I think Tera Dark Clod and Skele are the only truly reliable answers, where as long as you keep them remotely healthy (and preserve your Tera) you shouldn't have to worry about Espathra.
I also think this bird is broken and needs to go, but for now that's what I'm using to get by
Tera Dark Clodsire and SpDef Tera Dark Skeledirge are probably the two Pokemon you could call consistent counters. In theory SpDef Skeledirge is supposed to be able to win without Tera but if they have Protect things can get dicey, and it's even worse if they have Light Screen up. God forbid it's Tera Fire because then you definitely lose... Ting-Lu can Whirlwind it repeatedly, but if it's the last mon left then you need to have another answer.
Depending on whether Espathra carries Protect, Sub, or Roost, and which Tera type it opts for changes the counterplay pretty significantly. I think Tera Dark Clod and Skele are the only truly reliable answers, where as long as you keep them remotely healthy (and preserve your Tera) you shouldn't have to worry about Espathra.
I also think this bird is broken and needs to go, but for now that's what I'm using to get by
I see, thanks for your quick answer !
From my experience, hit it with any special attack that isn't a fire type like draco meteor or something
I've seen some teams using Eject Button and I don't really understand why it's good - I haven't been able to use it effectively personally, likely due to my inexperience.
It's often used on slower pokemon too, so it means they can be forced to pass their turn. I was watching a video where the player would actively have to work around having an Eject Button (they wanted to use Amoonguss to Spore an opposing Dragonite, but couldn't do that until later in the game after they consumed the Eject Button).
I've also played with this team made by Vert & Mimikyu Stardust (forum post / pokepaste), and I found the Eject Button on Hatterene just felt annoying.
Can someone let me know what I'm missing & any tips on how to use Eject Button effectively?
It's often used on slower pokemon too, so it means they can be forced to pass their turn. I was watching a video where the player would actively have to work around having an Eject Button (they wanted to use Amoonguss to Spore an opposing Dragonite, but couldn't do that until later in the game after they consumed the Eject Button).
I've also played with this team made by Vert & Mimikyu Stardust (forum post / pokepaste), and I found the Eject Button on Hatterene just felt annoying.
Can someone let me know what I'm missing & any tips on how to use Eject Button effectively?
You set up sun, go into Hatt to 1. soak a hit 2. deny hazards the eject button activates either then or next turn if hit because the lefties isn't revealed in the second scenario. sun is still up while you can use one of the Sun abusers. It's a one-time pivoting tool for faster paced teams.
Edit: Turn 6-7 in the following replay is how it's suppose to function.
No, just “Spring” — it’s very annoying that it’s so vague, but it’s what we got.
Was wondering in the eventuality that Tera remains unbanned for the rest of the generation (or honestly even the opposite case), would No Tera OU (or OU with Tera) be eligible to be made an OM? There was some discussion that a separate official ladder would never come to be, but not a ton about it's eligibility as an OM.
Let me know if this is a better question to ask in https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/other-metagames-index-ask-questions-here.3709852/
Let me know if this is a better question to ask in https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/other-metagames-index-ask-questions-here.3709852/