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Niche as it is I'm curious: Does Quark Drive work if the Pokemon is not touching the ground for the Electric Terrain (due to an Air Balloon, Tera Flying, etc)?

Similarly is Protosynthesis countered if it's Sunny but Cloud Nine is in effect for example?
 
Niche as it is I'm curious: Does Quark Drive work if the Pokemon is not touching the ground for the Electric Terrain (due to an Air Balloon, Tera Flying, etc)?

Similarly is Protosynthesis countered if it's Sunny but Cloud Nine is in effect for example?
Quark Drive does work for non-grounded Pokemon.

I don't know about Protosynthesis. Orichalcum Pulse is shut down by Cloud Nine, but Orichalcum Pulse's boost gets negated by Utility Umbrella unlike Protosynthesis.
 
what are your thoughts on ceruledge?
do you think that this pokemon is going to drop sooner or later?
it's possible that it may drop to UU, but I would be surprised. bulky bulk up surprise tera (with flash fire) 6-0s certain teams on preview, and switches in to and takes advantage of tusk w tera, valiant, cinderace, dirge, volcarona, iron moth, torkoal, etc.; while weak armor SD sets can cheese on HO.
 
I'm REALLY struggling with Tera Bug, Flash Fire, Bulk Up Ceruledges right now. It's super frustrating and I have no idea how in the hell I can beat it with my squad.

:greninja: :skeledirge: :great_tusk: :scizor: :corviknight: :gastrodon_east: (Click the team for the PokePaste link)

The major problems is that assuming it's using the normal spread of Careful, 252 HP / 200 SpDef / 56 Speed, these things happen:
-Skeledirge can't do much to it. Torch Song is nullified by Flash Fire, and Shadow Ball doesn't do enough damage. If I commit to my Fairy Tera on it, then it just clicks Bitter Blade and outregens my damage output.
-Gren does nothing to it, just because of all of the special bulk and Tera-ing out of its Fire and Ghost typing.
-Tusk does literally nothing to it outside of smacking it ONCE with a Knock Off, then all the damage being negated by Bitter Blade. Rock Slide/Stone Miss on Tusk is too unreliable either due to not enough damage vs +1/+1 Bug Ceru, or lack of accuracy.
-Scizor dies. When Scizor comes in on the +1 Bug Ceruledge, Technician boosted Aerial Ace (which used to be Thief for the Dengo matchup) doesn't OHKO it. (67.2 - 79% vs +1/+1 Ceru)
-Corvi can't wall it because of Bitter Blade.
-Gastro can't touch it because of its bulk, and it just sets up on Gastro.

I'm seriously at a loss here. This is one of the few only sets that my team can't handle at all.
 
I'm REALLY struggling with Tera Bug, Flash Fire, Bulk Up Ceruledges right now. It's super frustrating and I have no idea how in the hell I can beat it with my squad.

:greninja: :skeledirge: :great_tusk: :scizor: :corviknight: :gastrodon_east: (Click the team for the PokePaste link)

The major problems is that assuming it's using the normal spread of Careful, 252 HP / 200 SpDef / 56 Speed, these things happen:
-Skeledirge can't do much to it. Torch Song is nullified by Flash Fire, and Shadow Ball doesn't do enough damage. If I commit to my Fairy Tera on it, then it just clicks Bitter Blade and outregens my damage output.
-Gren does nothing to it, just because of all of the special bulk and Tera-ing out of its Fire and Ghost typing.
-Tusk does literally nothing to it outside of smacking it ONCE with a Knock Off, then all the damage being negated by Bitter Blade. Rock Slide/Stone Miss on Tusk is too unreliable either due to not enough damage vs +1/+1 Bug Ceru, or lack of accuracy.
-Scizor dies. When Scizor comes in on the +1 Bug Ceruledge, Technician boosted Aerial Ace (which used to be Thief for the Dengo matchup) doesn't OHKO it. (67.2 - 79% vs +1/+1 Ceru)
-Corvi can't wall it because of Bitter Blade.
-Gastro can't touch it because of its bulk, and it just sets up on Gastro.

I'm seriously at a loss here. This is one of the few only sets that my team can't handle at all.

If you're committed to keeping the same team, I'd try switching to a more physically defensive EV spread on Skeledirge. Take advantage of the fact that it's your unaware wall. Since Bulk Up won't do anything against Skeledirge, that's your best shot to beat it. With a max physdef spread, Bitter Blade won't break your substitute in one turn which gives you significantly more counterplay opportunities and can slow its momentum.

0 Atk Tera Bug Ceruledge Bitter Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Fairy Skeledirge: 84-100 (20.3 - 24.2%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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If you're committed to keeping the same team, I'd try switching to a more physically defensive EV spread on Skeledirge. Take advantage of the fact that it's your unaware wall. Since Bulk Up won't do anything against Skeledirge, that's your best shot to beat it. With a max physdef spread, Bitter Blade won't break your substitute in one turn which gives you significantly more counterplay opportunities and can slow its momentum.

0 Atk Tera Bug Ceruledge Bitter Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Fairy Skeledirge: 84-100 (20.3 - 24.2%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
The problem with this is that not factoring in SpDef drops from Shadow Ball, it's outhealing you through Bitter Blade, unless it comes in on you with a Torch Song or two already under your belt. (Or if they switch in a Torch Song, then you're REALLY boned.) The only other option on Dirge is to switch to a different Tera to resist Bitter Blade, but then lose to non-Wisp Volc, or TPunch/EQ Dnite.

This is such a hard matchup. . _.
 
I wanna ask about Synthesis on Amoonguss, because I’ve never quite known why it isn’t run. Like, instant recovery makes Amogus much easier to pilot (at least for me) and gives it more flexibility in shakier matchups. What holds the move back to the point of being put in the “other” section of Pikalytics usage?
 
I wanna ask about Synthesis on Amoonguss, because I’ve never quite known why it isn’t run. Like, instant recovery makes Amogus much easier to pilot (at least for me) and gives it more flexibility in shakier matchups. What holds the move back to the point of being put in the “other” section of Pikalytics usage?
I don't use Amoonguss much but I'd assume it's because Giga Drain does a much better work at restoring health. It also has way better moves overall that are worth more in the long game compared to Synthesis. You always wanna run Spore and Giga Drain, so for the last 2 slots you're better off running Sludge Bomb, Foul Play, Toxic, Clear Smog or Stun Spore IMO.
 
Hi, lately I was kinda lost with the new Gen bans, does somebody have a banlist or can tell me where to find it? thanks

Hello you can find all the Pokemon banned from OU here: https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/formats/uber/
  • Annihilape
  • Chi-Yu
  • Chien-Pao
  • Cyclizar
  • Espathra
  • Flutter Mane
  • Houndstone
  • Iron Bundle
  • Koraidon
  • Miraidon
  • Palafin
You can also see this list in the teambuilder on Pokemon Showdown listed under "Uber". If you're unsure if your team is allowed you can use the Validate button next to where you select your format. That will tell you if you have any illegal Pokemon or Moves on your team. (It also reminds you if you haven't filled out your Pokemon's EVs!)

Screenshot 2023-02-12 at 17-22-43 Teambuilder - Showdown!.png
 
What do people mean when they say that Corviknight is a "passive Pokemon"? What makes a Pokemon "passive"?

It refers to pokemon who, while being incredibly obnoxious to take down, also can't deal much damage in return. Take examples like Blissey or Clodsire or Ting Lu or even Lugia. They're all super fatass and difficult to take down but they don't deal much damage in return and must resort to other means like status or hazards + phazing move and whatever. Corviknight counts as passive because it fits perfectly. It's very obnoxious to take out but it can't do much damage back. The best it can do is u turn into a pokemon that destroys whatever it is it's currently facing

In most cases, just about every defensive pokemon counts as passive. It's why the likes of Garchomp, Landorus, Heatran and now, Great Tusk, are often preferred is they have defensive utility and their attacks hurt quite a lot even without offensive ev investment
 
has the possibility of banning stored power ever been entertained?

Nope. The thing is not really overpowered. It was really just Espathra with speed boost making it nearly impossible to revenge kill reliably. Stored power mons did exist in previous gens in Latias or Reuniclus but they were fairly easy to dispose of and needed a lot of support to pull off
 
It refers to pokemon who, while being incredibly obnoxious to take down, also can't deal much damage in return. Take examples like Blissey or Clodsire or Ting Lu or even Lugia. They're all super fatass and difficult to take down but they don't deal much damage in return and must resort to other means like status or hazards + phazing move and whatever. Corviknight counts as passive because it fits perfectly. It's very obnoxious to take out but it can't do much damage back. The best it can do is u turn into a pokemon that destroys whatever it is it's currently facing

In most cases, just about every defensive pokemon counts as passive. It's why the likes of Garchomp, Landorus, Heatran and now, Great Tusk, are often preferred is they have defensive utility and their attacks hurt quite a lot even without offensive ev investment
This actually explains a lot, but I also look at various interactions (like Corvi vs Gambit) and I go "How is this passive? Corvi smashes Gambit for so much HP off of a single Body Press..."
 
This actually explains a lot, but I also look at various interactions (like Corvi vs Gambit) and I go "How is this passive? Corvi smashes Gambit for so much HP off of a single Body Press..."

Because Kingambit is quad weak to fighting. If Corviknight does that to any other mon, they just shrug it off. Even Ting Lu wouldn't be bothered too much by it
 
I wanna ask about Synthesis on Amoonguss, because I’ve never quite known why it isn’t run. Like, instant recovery makes Amogus much easier to pilot (at least for me) and gives it more flexibility in shakier matchups. What holds the move back to the point of being put in the “other” section of Pikalytics usage?
If I were to make a hypothesis, it's a combination of a few things
  • Amoongus isn't very strong offensively, so it needs to make every action count. Moves like Spore/Clear Smog are already important for stopping opposing progress against it, Toxic to start making progress, or Giga Drain to make sure the opponent doesn't make net regen if it's a Leftovers user for example. Synthesis helps heal but unless something is in place already like Toxic damage, it doesn't necessarily forward Amoongus's work against the opponent
  • Synthesis heals Amoongus on the spot, but rare is the situation where he will be hit and force the opponent out whilst having taken enough damage to make Synthesis (50% and stays out) preferable to hitting the Switch-in with something or pivoting/double switching to get the Regenerator Heal. For a whole moveslot, its use cases aren't very common and Amoongus has a lot of options to choose from just outside of the "Other" section.
  • This probably mattered more in previous Gens, but I imagine Weather Wars factored in. Amoongus could sit on a decent number of Rain and Sand Pokemon, but the Weather in question reduced Synthesis further, bringing up the above issues with even less return, and he doesn't have a very good synergy with/against Sun where it would see a boost. This is less pronounced in Gen 9 where Sun has more abusers that can pick up the slack, while Rain is good-but-not-common and Sand is nowhere to be seen, but I do assume it a factor compared to if it had Recover instead, for example.
 
I've having a problem getting a hold of the meta since the recent bans to Chien-pao and Espathra. I've noticed that the sample teams thread is kinda outdated and 5 out of the 12 teams need to be removed. Any updates to the sample teams thread upcoming?
 
I've having a problem getting a hold of the meta since the recent bans to Chien-pao and Espathra. I've noticed that the sample teams thread is kinda outdated and 5 out of the 12 teams need to be removed. Any updates to the sample teams thread upcoming?
In the near future it is likely. It has just only been a day or two and it takes some time.
 
Hi guys. I just made a Smogon account and I would like to post on the VR, but as I was reading the rules before I made this account, I came across this statement:

“please know that posting in this thread is a privilege, not a right.”

I have no idea what this means. Does it just mean that you’re not supposed to troll, or does it mean literally that the council members hold all of the authority and give us the ability to make nominations for the VR? Isn’t the community what makes up this forum? I don’t see how it isn’t a right, unless it’s taking about not trolling.
 
Hi guys. I just made a Smogon account and I would like to post on the VR, but as I was reading the rules before I made this account, I came across this statement:

“please know that posting in this thread is a privilege, not a right.”

I have no idea what this means. Does it just mean that you’re not supposed to troll, or does it mean literally that the council members hold all of the authority and give us the ability to make nominations for the VR? Isn’t the community what makes up this forum? I don’t see how it isn’t a right, unless it’s taking about not trolling.
As a user and not part of the Moderation team, I presume it to mean that posting in the thread is a privilege in that one is not entitled unconditionally based on their conduct. Users who troll or constantly make low quality posts (without an effort to improve their contributions through discussion or learning experience) could have their ability to post in it suspended to avoid derailing the thread (something other threads fall victim to for the same reason).

In short: Don't be a jerk, and you're probably fine posting in the thread for honest attempts to discuss..
 
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