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Resource SV OU Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread
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Random questions. But I've been comparing Walking Wake to Dracovish. Being that they have the same typing and they kinda function the same, being that they would prefer to use their signature moves. I was wondering if Walking Wake is a better more complete version of Mr. Fish or a worse version. On paper, you would assume purely on stats one was better, but I feel Dracovish pretty OHKO everything that wasn't water or grass type under the right conditions. While this mon requires good predictions to use properly. Also, does it have the potential to be banned like Mr. Fish?
Depends what you mean by "better" and "more complete".
Dracovish was a lot of stacking power specifically behind one move such that it would KO anything relevant without an Immunity in 2 hits. Walking Wake takes more support to hit that level of absurd power relative to the meta, so it's not stronger, but might be "better" in that its design is quite as basic Unga at a glance.
Potential to be banned is never strictly out of the question, but I think a lot of the early "way too OP" evaluations are starting to cool off and more discussion is to be had, whether or not those positions are "action but maybe not a quickban" or just better articulating the same stance they had initially.
Breloom Fighting, Grass, Fire, Electric
Garganacl Water, Fairy, Flying, Grass, Steel, Dragon, Ghost, Ground, Poison
Gholdengo Flying, Water, Fairy, Ghost, Steel, Fire, Fighting, Normal, Dark
Rotom-Wash Steel, Ghost, Fairy, Water, Dark, Normal, Electric
Garchomp Steel, Ghost, Fire, Dragon, Water, Fairy, Flying, Dark
Flutter Mane is uber
See more information at this link for other mons best teras: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/tera-type-index.3716401/
Thank you, AndViet! Would you say these are ordered by priority?
Yes I would say so. I would say the only one I personally don't agree with is Garchomp. I would probably say Fire is the best Tera type for Chomp (Mainly for the Mix Chomp set).
Chomp largely depends on which variant tbh, if can run a lot of different types effectively
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not exactly high ladder, just 1700's
I want teams and other resources, so I can get into the Gen 9 AAA metagame where can find these tools on the Smogon forums?
What's a good set (namely eves) for a supporting toadscruel in current ou meta?
Magic Bounce is a big help for sun teams, particularly ones who feature a Fire-type without Boots such as Charizard, Scovillain, Ceruledge, and Iron Moth. Most sun teams already use Great Tusk but it can get overwhelmed by hazards + all the physical attackers it has to help deal with such as Kingambit.
In addition, Hatterene in sun is often seen with Eject Button which helps maintain offensive momentum, and Healing Wish which can give a potent breaker a second chance at weakening the opposing team.
walking wake was reserved in private, but you're welcome to post for one of the other two if you'd like!
Why was Hisuian Zoroark able to use illusion a second time after after I broke it with Salt Cure?
What are people using to check Dragonite?
If you break an Illusion, it comes back every time it switches in as the last alive mon on your team. The Illusion is something to worry about until H-Zoroark is dead.
How can I import the "blt9snorlaxes" pfp as my showdown avatar.
In general, checking Dnite is hard due to the amount of sets/coverage moves and tera options it can run. Tera normal is the most common for stab Espeed but as shown on the tera type index dragonite can run steel, fire, and even stuff like ground. mixed dragonite has also become common.
as far as the most common sets you'll encounter however (tera normal bulky dragon dance) a good way to chip it down and remove its multiscale is to get off a wisp. rotom-w is reliable at doing this as it has an immunity to eq, and tera normal espeed with no boosts doesn't do a whole lot if you're phys def rotom. tera skeledirge/garganacl to remove eq weakness can also chip dnite down with salt cure and wisp/hex respectively (or torch song if it's tera'd). Unaware users like Dondozo as well wall dnite. Hatterene also does a solid job of dealing with dnite, as it's able to paralyze dnite with nuzzle and also chip it down with draining kiss.
While these are the most common checks/ways to deal with dragonite, dragonite is very adaptable. It can run things like tera fire for wisp immunity, and stab fire punch. Band dragonite is becoming more common as a wallbreaker (has seen a decent amount of usage in SPL), and dragonite running hurricane as coverage with it's respectable SpA stat is also becoming more common and is extremely threatening
This replay from W7 of SPL doesn't demonstrate really how any of these "checks" can be used but rather does a good job of showing how Dragonite is very weak to chip, and Chaitanya's team is able to chip down dragonite without allowing for it any opening to setup, etc.
This is an exclusive avatar meant for players who played in the BLT IX tournament who were also on the Sunnyshore Snorlaxes team.
In regards to exclusive avatars, they are awarded to certain players in particular, mainly for winning tournaments or during tournament seasons, and they can all be found here: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/all-avatars-on-pokémon-showdown.3535547/
Unfortunately normal users aren't able to use exclusive avatars.
Right now Blissey is mostly only used only on stall teams such as this one. Said teams can be rather weak to stuff like Stored Power Hatterene, Nasty Plot Tera Flying Gholdengo, or other special attackers that can overwhelm Clodsire. SpDef Blissey helps deal with these, usually making use of Calm Mind to make sure they can't break pass it.
Is there a good archetype for learning the game as a whole, or are they all the same? Gen 9 is my first comp gen.