me, it's like you don't read my posts
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the thing with schia is that i agree with the reasoning behind the om push but ive watched them make like the exact same "meta push onto inactive town" as scum so thats why i wanted to see oms alignment cause if hes town we really just kill schia
This isn’t just for realiti btw as far as I am concerned. Voting Caff doesn’t necessarily clear.
its funny cause i was actually gonna pitch that theres one in you/schia
your posts arent worth readingme, it's like you don't read my posts
yeah this is true. especially if the wagons are s/s which they could be
If OM flipped town would you just have auto voted Schia?
Mineplex
well no i wouldve second guessed myself and waffled and maybe decided to vote celever instead but i probably wouldve treated schia more how ive been with you/celever/caff and put much more pressure there
what can we discern from this
i dont know which post i like less
My view is that the probability is that the OM wagon has one or more non-Caff mafia on it. It is believable that the entire scumteam voted for OM but that would be kinda hilarious, and I wouldn't put too much stock into that approach. The 85ish% probability is that there's one more maf on the OM wagon and one maf not on there.
With that said, I don't see significant value in getting hyper-focussed on the OM wagoners and it could be worse for us in the long run to do so. Schia is either Actually Wrong Townie who got wagoned on or really just made a bit of a Hail Mary; Vizh is the purest WIFOM ever because "if maf they wouldn't counter-vote the maf when it's plurality and no one else was here to change the outcome that just makes them look bad, so they're town" / "they would do exactly that for that line of reasoning". Neither of these can be looked into that fruitfully if we focus on them too much too soon.
Psy has done his best to make himself unreadable, and Salamence has attracted so much heat fnr and has level-1 T/S equity with Caff. Like this isn't a great group of players to hyper-focus on.
With that said, I don't see significant value in getting hyper-focussed on the OM wagoners and it could be worse for us in the long run to do so. Schia is either Actually Wrong Townie who got wagoned on or really just made a bit of a Hail Mary; Vizh is the purest WIFOM ever because "if maf they wouldn't counter-vote the maf when it's plurality and no one else was here to change the outcome that just makes them look bad, so they're town" / "they would do exactly that for that line of reasoning". Neither of these can be looked into that fruitfully if we focus on them too much too soon.
Psy has done his best to make himself unreadable, and Salamence has attracted so much heat fnr and has level-1 T/S equity with Caff. Like this isn't a great group of players to hyper-focus on.
interesting claiming cred for pressuring Caff
im not claiming credit for anything. im just saying what i did
who between us was the determinate vote on a D1 maf and who was responsible for the counter-wagon picking up steam
I disagree that you did that
realiti feels comfortably within his scum meta this game. im cool going here
vote realiti
vote realiti
i scumcased some of his posts pretty hard so im not sure why you disagree. youre clearly reading my posts so you cant make any excuses on that
Nothing that I can? I thought maybe it would be before Schia’s and boost the chance of S/S working together to see if there was a viable randed inactive boot (something Celever floated as a possibility (not in a scummy way I think)).
> Caff tosses Hydro to see if anyone bites
> Scumbuddy Schia upon seeing it doesn’t work pushes OM to save Caff
But alas it was after that push by Schia, so I think it either does nothing or slightly implicates Caff/OM S/S? But not enough where I’m like hard reading OM based on it.
you didn't actually commit to or at any moment in time say you thought he was scum lol. Like this "do literally every possible thing a player can do in the game so that you can say you did the one right thing" isn't effective and I'm gonna continue pointing it out because you already tried to towncore yourself on the basis of it
also tbz is definitely a kill realiti would advocate for as scum. not sure who else it fits. certainly wouldnt be the kill from like an aura/vizh team or something
It was just a random self-pres move from Caff. One that I briefly entertained in my own mind, voting out someone for posting 2 times is always fun.
i dont think i need to say outright "this player is scum" while explaining in detail why what theyre doing is scummy
why do you think this? because I have a different interpretation so your rationale matters here