I've definitely felt before that the endless drive for bigger and more realistic open worlds isn't leading to a better experience, and appreciated Nintendo for keeping on making games that sell themselves on the gameplay. I can't really say that now with how much Zelda and Pokemon have leaned into their respective open worlds. At some level, I feel like part of the blame is making something so easily comparable to the standard experience elsewhere.
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The Raidons really don't belong in that group.
Miraidon hits harder (hadron engine makes its SpA base 195, before even applying the Electric-type boosts), is faster (base 135), and is overall bulkier (due to higher SpD) than Mega Rayquaza, + has the ability to Terastallize into any type it wants, and is currently in National Dex AG with the general opinion among leadership to be more broken than Mega Rayquaza. Koraidon is said to be dangerously close, and even better than Miraidon in the regular Anything Goes Metagame, while following many of the same traits due to similar abilities and stat distributions.
You see, here's the whole thing. Aside Gen 8 Zacian (which was very specifically made minmaxed anyway), all these mons have one thing in common with Mega Rayquaza: the ability to use the gen defining mechanic without needing to commit the item slot.
Mega Rayquaza basically shown that if you take a super mechanic and make it free to use, pokemon that are inherently already very good become potentially borked.
You can think of it in this way, if "Primal Kyogre" wasnt locked to Blue Orb, it'd be able to run Scarf or Specs or AV or anything like that. It'd have been banished to AG pretty quickly.
Mega Rayquaza was basically the first case of "elite becomes broken" due to being able to get all the benefit of a super mechanic without the downside. Which was then followed by how Dynamax and Terastal create the same scenario, where pokemon that are already insanely strong in their context become unmanageable due to raw power.
Miraidon and Koraidon are easily at the top of SV Ubers (nevermind the ND ban/consideration) even after they released all the Legendaries into the pool with Home. Miraidon just hits like a truck if Electric attacks can hit you, while having powered-up Draco Meteors to chunk the standard Ground types. Koraidon isn't quite as nuclear, but both of them share extremely high offenses with a "free" boost from their ability, one of the best speed tiers in the game much less in the usually slower Ubers meta, and demonstrate a versatility to run half-a-dozen sets each that all can put in work. They're skirting the line surprisingly close before you even consider Terastalization.
To be a bit fair, Mega Rayquaza was a more particular case because it has itemless access to a gimmick that was specifically designed around the item requirement, it outright broke a rule there. Most subsequent cases were abusers of already-generic mechanics, so they moreso underline the problems with Z-Moves or Dynamax inherently compared to Mega Rayquaza literally just being Rayquaza-but-more in terms of opportunity cost (since the next best stuff in the Primals didn't overlap with Megas for whatever reason). Occasionally I speculate if Mega Rayquaza would be AG broken if it had to hold the Meteorite as a stone, since as a primarily-offensive Pokemon that power boost was a factor in its obscenity, or if it would have been "tolerated" at a Suspect like Gen 8 Calyrex-Shadow.
My point was that Rayquaza breaking the "i need a item for the supermechanic" was basically a hint of what's to come (consequences-wise).
I was merely imagining a world where "Mega evolving" and "Z-moves" did not need a item slot. Pretty sure the AG banlist (as well as the Uber banlist) would have been much much bigger if Mega Garchomp was able to hold a scarf, or god forsake Mega Metagross/Mawile with a choice band, or if any given pokemon in gen 7 was able on a whim to throw a 140 BP nuke with no warning while also keeping their power boosting item or leftie.
? Explain, please
With the current Types we have, I personally would like to see these 3 Types getting Eeveelutions and than call it: Normal, Dragon, & Ghost.
The reason is completely "fanon" (not sure if I'm using the right word) on my part: I imagine these 3 being a trio representing 3 different "end routes" for an Eevee uninfluenced by outside elemental or mystical forces:
- Normal: The closest Eevee would have to a natural evolution. No manipulation of its DNA with stones, time of day, or knowing a certain Move; it's just a fully mature form of Eevee. No different than 90% of all other Pokemon who's evolution line is essentially their life cycle from youth to adult.
- Dragon: This represents an Eevee who has reached the apex; becoming best of the best. Ascending from being normal to being extraordinary & fantastical. Dragon-type has been used to represent that idea before so I'm using it here; besides, gotta complete having all Types which were categorized as Special between Gen I-IV having an Eeveelution.
- Ghost: Though no matter how normal or great you are, in the end we all share the same fate: death. For some it comes after a long life, for some it comes tragically soon; death does not judge, it only is. In my head the Ghost-type Eevee isn't a malicious spirit nor a psychopomp, but rather just a grim reminder of the finality of things.
All I'll say is about f***ing time.
They don't need to solve capitalism because they already won it. They're the de facto makers of one of, if not THE, most popular media franchise.
Can we FINALLY KILL the myth that GF "have to" keep pumping out games because otherwise they'll go broke, big meanie TPC/Nintendo is telling them to, or whatever dumb excuse people make up? Now that they themselves admitted they didn't need to do it, aka they were forcing themselves to do it, and now they're thinking about going back to having a few years before major releases?
Well Sonic is now riding high thanks to Frontiers so that analogy, at least at the moment, doesn't quite work.
... No, not really. Everything will now just be spaced out more. Inbetween major game releases they'll just have to do more filler merch with, btw, the Japanese store is FILLED TO BURSTING WITH. TPC don't need a constant stream of new games in order to make new merch, if anything having the major releases more spaced out means they'll have more time to plan, maybe even build up hype, instead of needing everything ready all at once.
I myself would be fine if they just made the routes their own unique micro "open worlds", each filled with their own interesting features and places to explore within it. And make Cities & Towns into explorable areas befitting of the city or town they're replicating. I don't need everything to be one large connected world, give me a series of playgrounds and explorative settlements.
Eh, don't worry, the Sonic fandom will cannibalize that victory. I should know...
But legit, Pokemon if they're not careful will be as ridiculed as Sonic was early 2000s. There are already a lot of fandom parallels, I don't want to see it leech out into common casual thought that furthers bias
TCPi/Nintendo actually aknowledging rushed releases hopefully will prevent that, but it won't mean much if sentiment is too sour to actually experiment. Even worse if they simply appease people that aren't actually buying the games. For now though, we'll see...
this is literally the most popular pokemon take of all-time, no cap
I'm not so certain. People have legit argued that yearly releases are good, actually, because the law of averages means a chance that we get a really good game every couple of years as opposed to a really good game once every 3 or 4 years
Thanks, this has enlightened me by precisely 0%
"it was OU once so you're wrong and i'm right" is what the person meant with his very informative 1liner+screenshot.
Though if you're interested in actual context of why it was actually good in gen 3 and only in gen 3, I got you covered
Thanks, figured it was something along those lines. Just drives me nuts when people say shit like "ah, but are you aware of the Klempaderkinus Theory?" and then resolutely fail to actually explain what it actually means
charizard was not considered good in 2015 idk what you're talking about
Yes, but are you aware of the Klempaderkinus Theory?
Sir first you contest someone saying charizard was never good by showing a screenshot when Charizard was OU in gen 3, then you contest me linking a competitive history video saying that Charizard was legitimate in gen 3 OU saying it was not good
Are you ok? Need some help? Have you considered writing more than one liners as well while at it?
charizard was UUBL in 2015. charizard still has the same analysis it had in 2015 (albeit with a disclaimer).
Ugh, remind me of when people were casually dropping "Sam type" and "Dean type" into conversations. Never watched Supernatural, only vaguely aware of it, and I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one, yet now I'm expected to know the personalities of the Winchester brothers. (Heck, I still sort of don't get it; I think Sam is more "emotional/empathetic" and Dean is more "logical/realist"... which leads to my point of, if there's a dictionary word you can be using instead, USE THE DICTIONARY WORD!)
*Looks up Klempaderkinus Theory*
... So I got two results for that, k·p perturbation theory and K-theory, and after skimming through both I must ask what exactly conversation was this that physics & string theory concepts were brought up?
NEW UNPOPULAR OPINION:
So, can we get another Super Mechanic that's not directly connected to a Pokemon?
Like, while it's said Mega Evos came about due to the Aura Duo's energy mutating Evo Stones, that's more of a throwaway line than trying to connect the Mega Evo mechanic theme. Mega Evo didn't have a "poster Pokemon", MAYBE Diancie, and by ORAS they seemingly retcon the Aura Duo's involvement. But after that the Super Mechanic had a Pokemon directly connected to it:
Z-Moves had Necrozma, the Z-Crystals being pieces of its body & having a special form.
Dynamax/Gigantamax had Eternatus, its life energy causing the phenomenon & having a special form.
And now Terastal has Terapagos, while how it relates to Terastal isn't clear yet we now know it has a special form.
Now I'm not saying that they can't have a Pokemon which as a special form using a Super Mechanic, but would like it just be because in-lore the Pokemon just took advantage of a unique Super Mechanic that was available without directly being tied into it.
I would've agreed with this wholeheartedly about 2 weeks ago but I'll admit that the fact enough people were unironically demanding the reveal of BW3 or whatever at the last direct to the point of making "Unova" trend on Twitter has shaken my confidence a fair bit. Yeah yeah I know like you said it's a big world and a big fanbase, but that scene showed me that a lot of people are either insincere about asking them to slow down or just don't care
sorry for bumping this kind of dead topic i just needed an excuse to briefly rant about this
I'll play devil's advocate a bit and say that you can wish to have a game announced so you know it exists, and also wish that it doesn't release this year and/or is polished to a satisfactory degree by having enough dev time.
I know that's my case at least. I wouldn't mind new Unova games being announced right now, but I would indeed mind them being released right now.
I know that's my case at least. I wouldn't mind new Unova games being announced right now, but I would indeed mind them being released right now.