I find the idea that conservatives will play within the system of the American government to be really funny
Keep posting like you guys are and surely we'll only more forward. You're different than all the others who said the same things before you. Change the world. I'm rooting for you.
Go back to faint's orginal post. No one said "real issues". He basically criticized your outage in response to that video.I'm curious what your preferred alternative would be, exactly. Focus on 'real issues' like... what, exactly? Please enlighten us.
Keep posting like you guys are and surely we'll only more forward. You're different than all the others who said the same things before you. Change the world. I'm rooting for you.
Go back to faint's orginal post. No one said "real issues". He basically criticized your outage in response to that video.
" It's pretty silly to hyper focus on such obvious sensationalism and conservative copium/hopium. "
You guys are getting all worked up on a pokemon website about some extreme proposals that will never be accomplished.
I see. So why did you respond to me, then?the other guy rather
I'm curious what your preferred alternative would be, exactly. Focus on 'real issues' like... what, exactly? Please enlighten us.
Thanks for taking the mask off and admitting you don’t give a shit and don’t actually care to support marginalized people in any way that might so much as mildly inconvenience you
The sheer derision people like you express whenever someone asks for what they need to be safe and supported is really just so hateful and acidic, I hope you eventually get that toxicity out of yourself
You don't deserve a discussion in good faith given you couldn't resist throwing in your last line during your previous response to me
Some examples, please?as if you're somehow familiar with my life, my politics, and work I've done in my career to advance the exact same causes you claim to support.
Thank you for making your avatar the ally flag with a gun on it, though. My queer friends were incredibly thankful for all the work you've done advocating for more guns in the hands of the people.
But nothing is going to come with a defeatist attitude, and in the off chance I am wrong about this 2025 campaign being a real, legitimate thread, at least take solace in knowing that for once, as a trans person, you will have the entire Democratic party working WITH you given how tyrannical the propositions are.
You clearly already have your mind made up about me and it's evident nothing I can say is going to change that. My advice to you is to focus on the here and now, on issues that are present and real, not on something that is being proposed by fringe groups in 2025 onward. Assuming you volunteer, continue to focus on spreading messages of abortion rights in states that have banned it, or states that are voting on it presently. Educate people on what it actually means to be Queer and don't shut someone out just because they don't understand your life at first glance. Most issues that divide American stem from class and being told to be afraid of the "other." Don't focus on solving everything at once. If you want to be taken seriously and change minds, listing identity politics isn't going to change the minds of people that don't respond to it. It's understandable to be tired, feel defeated, and feel like we can't progress forward. But nothing is going to come with a defeatist attitude, and in the off chance I am wrong about this 2025 campaign being a real, legitimate thread, at least take solace in knowing that for once, as a trans person, you will have the entire Democratic party working WITH you given how tyrannical the propositions are.
I know you already said you won't engage in this topic further, but my brother in christ there's no id-pol here such as "trans roles should only be played by trans actors" or some other egregious examples when it comes to supposed anti-racism in particular, i'm not even a fan of overtly id-pol as a open socialist but we are literally talking about the criminalization and eradication from trans in public life in half of your country here and the plans to turn this into a nationwide reality as the highest priority of the republican party alongside erasing climate change regulations & nationwide abortion ban. If that's id-pol for you, you might aswell call the whole Black Civil Rights Movement or Anti-Apartheid movement in South Africa and so on as id-pol at this point (and no i'm not saying you actually do that).
Also you mention most overlying issues stem from class (oppression of the working class) and that's something i'd actually agree with you on as a socialist, however then you basically tell my brothers/sisters etc. to rely again on the "assured" support from the democratic party to really fight for our rights which is the wrong conclusion to make for these marginalized communities. Your takeaway that i'd be a defeatist is also completely wrong, i'm posting this because i wanted to make explicitly clear that shit's serious for my trans brothers, sisters etc. and by extension the whole rest of the LGBTIQ+ community and that you need to fight and not just vote democrats into congress, senate & state parliaments. I'm actually already organizing myself politically here in germany instead of only talking about politics online partly because of other overlying issues and the rise of the AFD which not only threaten my rights in multiple ways (and current german government agreed on implementing a "flawed" self-id law recently that only needs a majority in parliament after 2 years of discussions, which would be one of the first things the AFD would try to kill even as a junior partner of christian democrats).
I have intentionally chosen not to respond to you because you either misinterpret my words when I'm responding to others or don't make any sense in your own responses. I will respond to this solely because it fits into the former group, which I might add serves no benefit to this thread.
1) I brought up identity politics because Sablette stated "And it's not just that I'm trans, either. I'm not white. I'm disabled. I'm neurodivergent. I'm a first generation child of immigrants. I have a biological mental illness that can be treated but cannot ever go away." That's it. There's no further motive to my post. I don't know why you're talking about the Republican parties motives or actions as if I'm not aware of them.
2) I specifically stated it would be a silver lining that the Democratic party would be forced to step in. Once again, you have misconstrued or misinterpreted my very clear and direct message as if I'm telling you the Democratic party is going to solve everything. I did not say that. I just said you'd have their support and be on the same side.
3) Good on you for organizing, sincerely, but again that doesn't really mean anything when I was never speaking to you.
Guys, let's not fight.
Project 2025 is a nightmare framework for citizens of the United States and, let's be honest, the rest of the world if it goes off without a hitch.
We shouldn't be bickering about who is the "real" Leftist in this scenario. That wastes energy and accomplishes nothing.
We should be putting our energy into combatting against this blatantly fascistic framework put out by Conservative think-tank groups and doing the opposite of what they want to do.
There's no perfect set of laws to please everyone. Aside from these goofy fringe socialists, there is no appetite on either side to over haul the constitution. We Americans are by and large happy with the constitution, it is seen as the bedrock of our freedoms. You describe it as a problem getting in the way of progress, that's not how we see itSo as an outsider, I think a big problem of the US is that, while the state is relatively young by itself, it's constitution isn't. Most European nations received new constitutions during the 40s, these constitutions are much more applicable and "tighter" than the US constitution. It makes sense that it came to this, as the rather weak constitution of the Weimarer Republik was a huge factor in the rise of the Nazis
The current US constitution has many blind spots that allow and even somewhat encourage anti-democracy and inhumanity. For example, the supreme court where judges have no term limits and can be just instated by presidents. I suppose it had some purpose in the 18th century, but we can see what issues this entails in the 21st century
Similarly, the second amendment makes complete sense when you consider the context it was amended in, but the way it's written allows lobbies to reference this amendment when even moderate rules in regards to gun control come up
In my home country, things have gone significantly worse in recent years, due to having an indecisive and weak gov, then being co-run for a few years by fascists and being run for a couple of years by conservative opportunists. That said, our version of the supreme court and parliament have actually defended democratic foundamentals, due to being bound by a rock-solid constitution
The thing is also that a reform wouldn't be possible when the very idea of the USA is like a religion in America, with it's flawed constitution being deeply engrained in it. The idea of the US being somehow better than every other nation being engrained in the mindset of many Americans doesn't help here
I mean, that's sort of how this whole conversation started. Certain self-described 'leftists' seem to think it's just not a big deal because it can't happen here and we should focus on real issues instead like, uhhhh... voting, I guess? Because that's solved all our issues so well in the past?
I don't really care for conversations like this to devolve into leftism purity spirals where we all puff out our chests and compete to see who is the most progressive, but I'm so fucking sick of people who are either politically clueless or willfully dishonest adopting leftist language and labels while advocating for the status quo and running defense for fascists.
I will work with anyone who considers themselves anti-fascist.
There's no perfect set of laws to please everyone. Aside from these goofy fringe socialists, there is no appetite on either side to over haul the constitution. We Americans are by and large happy with the constitution, it is seen as the bedrock of our freedoms. You describe it as a problem getting in the way of progress, that's not how we see it
"...a majority [of Americans] support making sweeping changes to the political system: 61% say “significant changes” are needed in the fundamental “design and structure” of the U.S. government to make it work in current times." (Pew Research Center, 2018)there is no appetite on either side to over haul the constitution.