... Instead of addressing any of my points I made in my post you decide to ignore them and make fun of it for its length and cherrypicked a quote without any context given
Wait you werent
Why do people think the council is some kind of political cabal intent on spreading stall?
Maybe because out of the last 30 pokemon banned, maybe two were focused on oppressive stall/hazard stack mons (and one of those was revert, enter gholdengo).
And I know what you'll bring up, "it shouldn't be tit for tat" and that's not what I'm saying at all.
Also, please don't compare this to "other OMs". They are different metagames and what they do has no bearing on what Frantic Fusion the meta requires. If you really want to compare this to an OM, AAA being the most similar, 1 Ability Clause is not because we need it to stop stall from being oppressive. Frankly it was just done as an experiment with FurScales and also solving the consistency of Ability Clause (compared to 2AC which is somewhat arbitary). Stall appreciates more flexibility with their Regen slots, sure, but honestly it isn't even affected that much by Regen and there are ubiquitous amount of other defensive tools it can run that can be arguably even more important. 1AC isn't even some holy thing we've come to appreciate, many people have voiced their dissatisfaction over it and wish for increased AC. There have been various calls to even just straight up free NAC and even oldgens AAA have 2AC and find themselves fairly fine and not ultra Stall dominated. The difference between 2AC and NAC is fairly negligible and I've never seen anyone find 2AC fine but have disdain for NAC as Regen is not some perfect defensive ability. Also if you want to compare it to AAA further, Unburden and Triage shouldn't even have much bearing on the viability of Stall? You talk as they already run 3 Unaware even without these abilities in the meta, I don't see how freeing them would change much of anything if Stall really is dominant in this tier.
This is all somewhat true, but there are more restrictions on abilities (no desoland/prime sea, no SoR, etc) and all pokemon get proportionally more bulk than attacking stat (unless there's some gimmicky mixed attacker I'm not remembering). Between every pokemon getting a lot bulkier, and the lack of strong offensive abilities, even basic things like hazard stack and stall which aren't all that good in AAA are much more dangerous here.
But again, you don't play this tier. Why are you trying to declare objective things about this tier's meta?
We are not "oppressing" you for having an opinion.
Who is we? We're talking about the council, not your circle of friends you jerk with in discord. You don't play the meta, and you certainly aren't on council (and if you are influencing a council for a meta you don't play, shame on you).
But, to respond to the whole point.
We are not "oppressing" you for having an opinion. Council members for the most part do want to make a meta better and if anything appreciate constructive criticism to see what is wrong, because this isn't Congress and they are voting on a silly videogame meta not whether Big Oil™" will continue to fuck over our planet in exchange for short term profits and are not getting bribed to make Stall better or looking out for their chances next re-election. What we are is annoyed by your obnoxious constant whining that is backed up by no substantial evidence or analysis in the majority of the case that derails any actual constructive discussion as you plug your ears as players do respond with an argument that actually some thought put into it and continue to complain. You do not need to be some big-time tour or ladder player to have people listen to your opinion. You do not need to have an opinion that perfectly aligns with the majority of council to have an opinion respected or heard, hell the majority of the time the council isn't even unified on the majority of topics. What you do need is some thought put into your arguments and climb out of your echo chamber. I was a nobody when I first played AAA but I still put out opinions on controversial mons and had constructive arguments. Various people have engaged in discussion even against the grate of many respected players and council and been respected, see Siamatos great posts on the AAA meta.
First off, why the hell are you bringing up politics in this thread? And I'm considered the troll.
Two, as soon as one of the "well respected members of the community" writes you off, you don't have any presence. I could mindlessly puppet the opinions and beliefs of the council and would still likely get laughed off my ass because I'm tagged as "just a common troll" so you bringing up anything related to "discourse is good even if you are wrong" is a blatant lie lmao.
Three, if the "anti-stall trolls" are in an echo chamber, I'd argue the "just run tough claws Gapdos and 1v6 all stall teams forever" crowd are in just as much of an echo chamber.
Finally, people getting annoyed... About conversation... On the forum made... For talking about their meta. The HORROR!! Whatever will we do?
If anyone is blocking out constructive criticism, I'd really wager it would be you.
Considering that this OMs council has blacklisted regenerator and hazard stack, and gone on record to say that they will never look at 1AC, Regen, or Gholdengo for bans again, means that some form of criticisms is blocked. If you subjectively think that's trolling, that's fine.
Also...
Iron Boulder and Iron Moth are banned from Frantic Fusions!
I fucking called it, let's go, more wallbreakers banned (iron moth specifically being one of the example mons given to new players as recently as two days ago for ways to beat hard stall)