NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

M2H how good are you at reading tommy btw?

I have never successfully gotten past tommy as scum. I have only ever barely gotten to d2 vs him as scum, he always snap reads me town after a handful of posts.

My read on tommy is much worse by comparison, maybe a little above rand. I tend to be paranoid of him because he is a very good scum player.

I was meming about us being masons, it's more the case that he can "town core" me and I can work through him slot as the day progresses.
 
I have never successfully gotten past tommy as scum. I have only ever barely gotten to d2 vs him as scum, he always snap reads me town after a handful of posts.

My read on tommy is much worse by comparison, maybe a little above rand. I tend to be paranoid of him because he is a very good scum player.

I was meming about us being masons, it's more the case that he can "town core" me and I can work through him slot as the day progresses.
I was afraid of that tbh, I think he's hard to read if he's maf
 
Alright I've done my homework, a bit of anger management, and a lot of catching up. Sorry about earlier.

However my vote remains with genisu because most of my points remain broadly true
 
M2H is very likely town off the bat, several traces of villa conviction

shane the shroomish is eating this game up, but i haven't decided their alignment yet
 
Alright I've done my homework, a bit of anger management, and a lot of catching up. Sorry about earlier.

However my vote remains with genisu because most of my points remain broadly true

I don't mind your vote, but at the same time, I think your case for a policy vote on genisu is weak. I personally find both genisu and neon to be somewhat annoying and somewhat of a liability; however, in order for us to win we may need to look past that. In general, the attitude that it's OK to lynch townies is a negative one. I expressed a willingness to lynch neon last game even if he is town for a very particular reason that I don't think is the case here. I would ask you to reconsider whether you really read genisu as scum or not.
 
I don't mind your vote, but at the same time, I think your case for a policy vote on genisu is weak. I personally find both genisu and neon to be somewhat annoying and somewhat of a liability; however, in order for us to win we may need to look past that. In general, the attitude that it's OK to lynch townies is a negative one. I expressed a willingness to lynch neon last game even if he is town for a very particular reason that I don't think is the case here. I would ask you to reconsider whether you really read genisu as scum or not.
I fully read him as scum. My conviction still stands at this point until thoroughly proven otherwise, and the same would be the case if we were best friends outside of the game.
 
I don't mind your vote, but at the same time, I think your case for a policy vote on genisu is weak. I personally find both genisu and neon to be somewhat annoying and somewhat of a liability; however, in order for us to win we may need to look past that. In general, the attitude that it's OK to lynch townies is a negative one. I expressed a willingness to lynch neon last game even if he is town for a very particular reason that I don't think is the case here. I would ask you to reconsider whether you really read genisu as scum or not.
how am i a liability :skull: im just making reads and trying to play to my wincon
 
how am i a liability :skull: im just making reads and trying to play to my wincon

I think you've made yourself into a likely vote at some point regardless of alignment. The neon -> a fairy pushes both appeared to be driven by factors outside of in game reads (e.g. player grudges, differences in game philosophy). This bait has likely damaged the position of a few other townies as well (I assume Flanders to be one). As such, in this game at least, I think you've already damaged the town somewhat. It's not too late to improve and come back from this point.
 
tough to say what the setup distribution will be, but i'd expect something like 13 mafia, 4 town -- in the event of a 3P role, maybe +/- 1 town or mafia depending on overall role strength on both main factional sides to fit that in. not thinking there will be more than one 3P role at most, but you never know with an SB game. they'll have made a moderately balanced setup at minimum though, that i'm confident in
 
which points? seems like every point was either false or a swear
-After my last post that basically told you to piss off about neon throwing stuff, you hastily threw together a readlist in a few minutes that listed me as an SR. I was not the only SR, I apologize for not noticing that, but you still omitted active people like Celever and Laurel (I know you were around when they were), and gave no reason for most reads besides mine, again suggesting that it was a rushed hit-piece.

-Your reasoning for me being suspicious was laughably bad. You said I wasn't acting in line with my "town meta" because I was sussing too many people. First off, you can't form a town meta for me after ONE GAME that you only hosted instead of participating in, and secondly it's just false because Skipper literally scumread me last game for doing the exact same thing D1. It's just how I am, I talk a lot and I make autistically bad calls sometimes. If you were paying any attention last game you'd have known that, and I'm sure you did. You just lie about it now to escape notice.

-Your treatment of Neon is still unreasonably harsh and you still wasted AF's and everyone else's time with that argument. Maybe I thought I saw something I didn't with the forum ban thing, again I'm sorry if that's the case.

-Your voting habits have been unreasonably sheepy and out of line with your comments since the start of the thread.

-Both of your townreads are still super suspicious because you gave no reason for them and JALMONT especially is acting different to the point that others like M2H are noticing.

I stand by all of these.
 
I think you've made yourself into a likely vote at some point regardless of alignment. The neon -> a fairy pushes both appeared to be driven by factors outside of in game reads (e.g. player grudges, differences in game philosophy). This bait has likely damaged the position of a few other townies as well (I assume Flanders to be one). As such, in this game at least, I think you've already damaged the town somewhat. It's not too late to improve and come back from this point.
seriously though, the backup role does not seem real.... it seems like a doable fakeclaim for a 3p
 
-After my last post that basically told you to piss off about neon throwing stuff, you hastily threw together a readlist in a few minutes that listed me as an SR. I was not the only SR, I apologize for not noticing that, but you still omitted active people like Celever and Laurel (I know you were around when they were), and gave no reason for most reads besides mine, again suggesting that it was a rushed hit-piece.

-Your reasoning for me being suspicious was laughably bad. You said I wasn't acting in line with my "town meta" because I was sussing too many people. First off, you can't form a town meta for me after ONE GAME that you only hosted instead of participating in, and secondly it's just false because Skipper literally scumread me last game for doing the exact same thing D1. It's just how I am, I talk a lot and I make autistically bad calls sometimes. If you were paying any attention last game you'd have known that, and I'm sure you did. You just lie about it now to escape notice.

-Your treatment of Neon is still unreasonably harsh and you still wasted AF's and everyone else's time with that argument. Maybe I thought I saw something I didn't with the forum ban thing, again I'm sorry if that's the case.

-Your voting habits have been unreasonably sheepy and out of line with your comments since the start of the thread.

-Both of your townreads are still super suspicious because you gave no reason for them and JALMONT especially is acting different to the point that others like M2H are noticing.

I stand by all of these.
about the people on the list thing i literally forgot i interacted w laurel and i ddnt really talk to cel
 
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