this feels like town jalmont from my first game w him
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NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)
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This is the sixth change in barely 24 hours. I can't be the only one getting sick and tired of this
(Voting progression was shane before the shane wagon later > celever > alice > celever > clouds > me)
no, i mean, i don't really care if you townread him or not, i just intuitively distrust your reasons for voting him in the first place, and that's a stain that's never gonna go away, unfortunately for you. it's unlikely he's going to be on the chopping block today so defending him doesn't really concern me, but i figure i should explain how that happened:
i'm not going to expect anyone to agree with me because these are small things that are influencing my opinion, i gut-read him as a villa extremely early for some of his intro posts (i.e.):
in which i don't think a new wolf would be gung-ho to open the game with a riddle about what his flavor is (and this is later corroborated by him saying that he's interested in the flavor because his role is boring)
in which this looks neither performative nor like it's trying to shade genisu or anything, looks like he's genuinely considering himself part of the town team and explaining to genisu that we're going to vote him out if he continues to act erratically, also is the start of his progression towards voting genisu because his behavior was clearly getting on his nerves a little bit here
outside of that not much tbh
i find his recent readslist to be >rand town because it's really unproductive and unintuitive for a wolf to post 5 scumleans and 2 scumreads, you will typically see wolves focus on one or two targets while trying to butter up the rest of the table to gain a tactical advantage (this is also one of the reasons i started to reconsider my read on genisu because he was throwing out a lot of scumreads in a pressured situation, which i normally see townies do over wolves)
bluedoom is my top townread right now, soz to everyone else. just feel super good about his posting, it's thoughtful, i believe that he believes what he's writing even if i don't see level with all of it. next behind that is M2H, then there are slots like neon that i think are town on paper but haven't done a ton to make me think they're town individually. warming up to shane, just need to iron out some kinks
well, a wolf wouldn't kill someone just to see their role, i'm talking about it as if i want that information which is town PoV?
as for why he's not assuming i'm Claiming Mafia, i don't think that is a reasonable thing to assume, lol. who would claim mafia? who would breadcrumb that they have a factional kill by saying they're going to OHKO someone?
yeah i can agree i think bluedoom is pretty towny
Bluedoom can still be well-reasoned while still being 100% scum. I wouldn't put that past him.
yeah that is very weird early into d1
especially because laurel isn't even active enough to react to being pressured
tbh its a pretty conservative move but it makes sense based on his stated read. im not sure anything else makes sense from his pov. ofc i also was kinda fixating on how he interacted with me personally on entry. im honestly ok with his entry but will prob not like it if he continues with a measured game. wouldve really liked to see him on jalmont there if those reads were equal.
but i also am half way between wanting to let the derpclear go through on laurel and assume he is just ml bait, or alternatively assume he was intentionally faking the entry & accidentally tmi'd shane.
Your very first interaction with bluedoom this game was calling him out for his decidedly illogical scumleaning of lowposters/inactives. I know you've had other conversations since then but I find that noteworthy.
him in particular?
but scum would know there are fakeclaims, it was either a legit derpclear or a derpclear attempt.
Last game Bluedoom's playstyle was described to me as "generally very scummy", I don't remember if it was M2H or AF that said so at the time but I definitely agreed
this doesnt sound like me
that's kinda weird since nobody seems to be fosing him this game and i havent really found him scummy at any point yet
I remember it was said at a time when M2H was very active so it was probably them. I just don't feel like going back and checking
valid
it was me
I think my biggest problem with Tommy's entrance was that he opened with the laurel scumread and then coaching genisu in thread, regardless of genisu's alignment this is very fakeable content as mafia. I think Tommy's vote on laurel is better than Celever's given both their stances but think that he kind of ignored a lot of the other dynamics happening in the thread.
I'm kinda giving him a pass because I've had a hard time understanding his logic when he's town but I'm p sure he has a much better scum game than town game anyway.
I think that is the level 1 play yeah, but I doubt scum!laurel actually thinks this works. The end result is we have a ton of townies sounding flavorclaims and laurel winds up with no cred after all. I think it's a legit derpclear or laurel was going for the marginally more sound attempted derpclear as that is more likely to stick imo.