Should really be getting to bed but I promised I would give this game a go so here we are.
Before I get started I will say I've been enlightened and realize that the best reason to NL day 1 is that it lets everyone play the game for a reasonable amount of time. Its a real feels bad to die day 1 and because we're smogon you can't really play for like another 2 weeks to a month. Yeah technically the math says it's wrong but I'd rather reduce my chances of winning by 3% and feel better that everyone gets a real shake at playing the game.
moving on
funnily or ironically and definitely contrary to what you may think, my top 2 scumreads this game are Alice and saber. as HH would say, the vibes (esp compared to the previous game) are just not there. saber was flailing town hard last game (3p is basically town) and for me this game isn't really engaging as much, choosing to talk about the previous game and random stuff vs attempting to talk about the current game, which he did before. Same vibes for Alice, I thought Alice made a good # of posts that were game oriented and felt pretty genuine, whereas this game is a lot more stilted and overly safe.
this is a big contrast to flanders (more below)...I guess the counter argument is flanders is very experienced w amongus which is a mafia derivative but i do appreciate the more aggressive nature of flanders' play, even if i don't agree with the conclusions they are coming to. .
genisu and flanders are definitely not teammates (lol). This is town v town for me, I don't think mafia gets a lot of usefulness of fabricating this kind of personal argument (that really grew from nothing). Flanders has been way too emotionally aggressive to be mafia for me, I don't really see a lot of usage from acting like this. Most mafia players lean towards behaving more modulated and flanders hasn't shown me that he can fake this kind of emotional posting as mafia (yet....)
also I lied, thomas is definitely in the list of people who are great at posting and talking a lot.
about that group: celever/clouds/dusk/m2h/shane v- interesting bunch of people. all have felt off at different times but I do think my current ranking is probably like clouds -> m2h -> shane -> dusk -> cel where dusk is pretty neutral rn. i don't like it because again, these people are all good at talking. but at this stage in the game it is what it is. the pulsar incident is a pretty critical moment I think and the way in which clouds and m2h engaged with it is something that strikes me as relatively towny. i don't think mafia players are in the mindset of "wait that role pm claim seems totally off from me" because psychologically, it should be off because they are mafia! m2h has definitely bugged me but also gains town points for not actually powertowning as much as they are talking about it (are you a girl? lol). nothing really has changed with me for celever, I dunno I guess he is very often a contrarian but I guess there's nothing posted by him that has really made me go, yeah I can trust cel this game.
oh on pulsar. lowkey under the radar i think pulsar actually claims MORE then neon...this half claim feels weird to me though. has pulsar ever kind of done a claim like this? usually she just says it (including claiming cop as mafia). normally the claim is town but knowing that it's in her bag to claim as mafia makes me think differently. for that reason alone, i have to put it as slightly on the scum side..
i think bluedoom is town. next.
af seems to have discussed the game even less than usual but she's always in my don't touch pile early. HH also feels a little off but idk. genisu is probably town, I don't think he would really engage with flanders as mafia since it just brings unnecessary attention to him. joey hasn't really offered much except agreeing with celever on neon (ew) but made a nice post in response to m2h (yum). i don't think neon made a post in the first 3 pages of his iso that said anything interesting regarding the game...let's hope his role usage in this one is as little more effective (in a positive way).
laurel. I think I was wrong on laurel, I now think entering the game and immediately jumping to flavor claim to be mafia inclined. it just seems like you're baiting for info and i know there are multiple PMD characters who, regardless of flavor being unconnected to role, i would subconsciously go, "oh that seems like an important player, they must have a good role" no matter if that's untrue. and in that context, it's sus af because as mafia with a safeclaim, it's completely free to offer something like that up and see what happens. so lean scum from that play.
nice i think i got everyone. i'm up way past my deadline i gotta get up early. I think I'll be around about 1 hour prior to deadline, assuming it's when I think it is. lul.
also I reread the rules there are no vanillas let's NL PLz and tY
Before I get started I will say I've been enlightened and realize that the best reason to NL day 1 is that it lets everyone play the game for a reasonable amount of time. Its a real feels bad to die day 1 and because we're smogon you can't really play for like another 2 weeks to a month. Yeah technically the math says it's wrong but I'd rather reduce my chances of winning by 3% and feel better that everyone gets a real shake at playing the game.
moving on
funnily or ironically and definitely contrary to what you may think, my top 2 scumreads this game are Alice and saber. as HH would say, the vibes (esp compared to the previous game) are just not there. saber was flailing town hard last game (3p is basically town) and for me this game isn't really engaging as much, choosing to talk about the previous game and random stuff vs attempting to talk about the current game, which he did before. Same vibes for Alice, I thought Alice made a good # of posts that were game oriented and felt pretty genuine, whereas this game is a lot more stilted and overly safe.
this is a big contrast to flanders (more below)...I guess the counter argument is flanders is very experienced w amongus which is a mafia derivative but i do appreciate the more aggressive nature of flanders' play, even if i don't agree with the conclusions they are coming to. .
genisu and flanders are definitely not teammates (lol). This is town v town for me, I don't think mafia gets a lot of usefulness of fabricating this kind of personal argument (that really grew from nothing). Flanders has been way too emotionally aggressive to be mafia for me, I don't really see a lot of usage from acting like this. Most mafia players lean towards behaving more modulated and flanders hasn't shown me that he can fake this kind of emotional posting as mafia (yet....)
also I lied, thomas is definitely in the list of people who are great at posting and talking a lot.
about that group: celever/clouds/dusk/m2h/shane v- interesting bunch of people. all have felt off at different times but I do think my current ranking is probably like clouds -> m2h -> shane -> dusk -> cel where dusk is pretty neutral rn. i don't like it because again, these people are all good at talking. but at this stage in the game it is what it is. the pulsar incident is a pretty critical moment I think and the way in which clouds and m2h engaged with it is something that strikes me as relatively towny. i don't think mafia players are in the mindset of "wait that role pm claim seems totally off from me" because psychologically, it should be off because they are mafia! m2h has definitely bugged me but also gains town points for not actually powertowning as much as they are talking about it (are you a girl? lol). nothing really has changed with me for celever, I dunno I guess he is very often a contrarian but I guess there's nothing posted by him that has really made me go, yeah I can trust cel this game.
oh on pulsar. lowkey under the radar i think pulsar actually claims MORE then neon...this half claim feels weird to me though. has pulsar ever kind of done a claim like this? usually she just says it (including claiming cop as mafia). normally the claim is town but knowing that it's in her bag to claim as mafia makes me think differently. for that reason alone, i have to put it as slightly on the scum side..
i think bluedoom is town. next.
af seems to have discussed the game even less than usual but she's always in my don't touch pile early. HH also feels a little off but idk. genisu is probably town, I don't think he would really engage with flanders as mafia since it just brings unnecessary attention to him. joey hasn't really offered much except agreeing with celever on neon (ew) but made a nice post in response to m2h (yum). i don't think neon made a post in the first 3 pages of his iso that said anything interesting regarding the game...let's hope his role usage in this one is as little more effective (in a positive way).
laurel. I think I was wrong on laurel, I now think entering the game and immediately jumping to flavor claim to be mafia inclined. it just seems like you're baiting for info and i know there are multiple PMD characters who, regardless of flavor being unconnected to role, i would subconsciously go, "oh that seems like an important player, they must have a good role" no matter if that's untrue. and in that context, it's sus af because as mafia with a safeclaim, it's completely free to offer something like that up and see what happens. so lean scum from that play.
nice i think i got everyone. i'm up way past my deadline i gotta get up early. I think I'll be around about 1 hour prior to deadline, assuming it's when I think it is. lul.
also I reread the rules there are no vanillas let's NL PLz and tY
