NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

Day 1.11 Votals
(4) JALMONT
: Celever, a fairy, StupidFlandrs48, Alice Kazumi
(3) pulsar512b: Shane the Shroomish, bluedoom, genisu
(3) joey: Laurel, M2H, Clouds
(2) genisu: saberslasher11, pulsar512b
(2) Duskfall98: HydrogenHydreigon
(1) Laurel: Duskfall98
(1) Shane the Shroomish: ImaginaryNeon

(1) No Vote: JALMONT

Voteless: joey

You have 1.5 hours until phase end. With 17 alive, it takes 11 to hammer early.

edit: fixed genisu's vote on this vc + the previous
idt anyone's changed since this
 
Day 1.12 Votals
(4) JALMONT
: Celever, a fairy, StupidFlandrs48, Alice Kazumi
(2) pulsar512b: bluedoom, genisu
(2) joey: Laurel, M2H
(2) genisu: saberslasher11, pulsar512b
(2) Duskfall98: HydrogenHydreigon
(2) Celever: Shane the Shroomish, Clouds
(1) Laurel: Duskfall98
(1) saberslasher11: joey
(1) ImaginaryNeon: ImaginaryNeon
(1) No Vote: JALMONT

Voteless: None!

You have 51 minutes until phase end. With 17 alive, it takes 11 to hammer early.

edit: fixed neon vote
 
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ok well why do you feel that way because it def is game solving let's talk
even the genisu stuff at the start felt a bit premature and overly predictive to the point i wondered if you were informed

you saying there's a wolf fanning the flames among your detractors just feels like discred as earlier stated, and i'm independently townreading two of the three people you're throwing that at independently so it just hasn't sat well with me the entire time, i think their initial reasoning for pushing on you for the laurel vote was a little ridiculous but your response and how you set up this dynamic you're seeing just felt baldly manipulative, i didn't get the sense people were being overly meldy at any point in this game

you being on jalmont for, in ur eyes, fanning the flames, doesn't make sense to me because he isn't even voting today or trying to influence the game whatsoever, he just made a bunch of naked votes and then posted reads, which should give you some cognitive dissonance w/r/t the framework ur providing here, if you think he's trying to twist sentiment against innocent players by latching onto other people's reads why isn't he wagoning with them

i just don't buy any of it
 
Day 1.12 Votals
(4) JALMONT
: Celever, a fairy, StupidFlandrs48, Alice Kazumi
(2) pulsar512b: bluedoom, genisu
(2) joey: Laurel, M2H
(2) genisu: saberslasher11, pulsar512b
(2) Duskfall98: HydrogenHydreigon
(2) Celever: Shane the Shroomish, Clouds
(1) Laurel: Duskfall98
(1) Shane the Shroomish: ImaginaryNeon
(1) saberslasher11: joey
(1) No Vote: JALMONT

Voteless: None!

You have 51 minutes until phase end. With 17 alive, it takes 11 to hammer early.
i will not be making an official vc

/tosses notepad in the trash/
 
i think as it stands im happy to leave my vote on jalmont i havent been particularly motivated by any other wagon

I'm going to spec because 1 h to deadline and jalmont is top wagon and nobody on the jalmont wagon seem to get it.

JALMONT literally shifted/outed a main PR or is scum gambitting. He said he forgot this was role madness. This implies his role is either one that would be expected as a role town PR OR he is scum. He would not have missed that this is role madness if he had a niche role. You're welcome.
 
I'm going to spec because 1 h to deadline and jalmont is top wagon and nobody on the jalmont wagon seem to get it.

JALMONT literally shifted/outed a main PR or is scum gambitting. He said he forgot this was role madness. This implies his role is either one that would be expected as a role town PR OR he is scum. He would not have missed that this is role madness if he had a niche role. You're welcome.

what pr stuff did i miss?
 
even the genisu stuff at the start felt a bit premature and overly predictive to the point i wondered if you were informed

you saying there's a wolf fanning the flames among your detractors just feels like discred as earlier stated, and i'm independently townreading two of the three people you're throwing that at independently so it just hasn't sat well with me the entire time, i think their initial reasoning for pushing on you for the laurel vote was a little ridiculous but your response and how you set up this dynamic you're seeing just felt baldly manipulative, i didn't get the sense people were being overly meldy at any point in this game
I suppose the issue that it seems like you won't overcome is that you think I'm against these people just because they're against me. I'm not, I was doing analysis anyway and it happens to be about a group that has been pushing me. But they've also increasingly pushed me the more I've gone for them, and not the other way round really. Clouds entered thread a couple hours ago while you were gone and dropped a vote on me, after all, so I think you're reading this completely backwards.
Shane said:
you being on jalmont for, in ur eyes, fanning the flames, doesn't make sense to me because he isn't even voting today or trying to influence the game whatsoever, he just made a bunch of naked votes and then posted reads, which should give you some cognitive dissonance w/r/t the framework ur providing here, if you think he's trying to twist sentiment against innocent players by latching onto other people's reads why isn't he wagoning with them

i just don't buy any of it
yeah the naked votes aren't a part of it, JALMONT hopped into the group during the pulsar situation and then during the final burstposts of walls where he positioned himself favourably to have influence going into D2. Wagoning players harms that positioning, because if he's on the majority wagon that's on town then people will be less willing to listen to him tomorrow. He spent most of the day starting wagons to see what would take off anyway, but then ultimately decided to not push anyone (except priming the two lowest hanging fruits in the game at the time as possible votes).
 
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