NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

are we thinking 13/4 at this rate or 13/3/1 btw?
I’m not sure tbh. I don’t think we have reliable leads as far as this discussion is concerned.

Prob slightly likelier to be 13/4 because of one kill. Non-lethal indies have it harder the bigger the game size, but also a lethal indie with a team of 3 mafia in a game this big would be roooough for the mafia, so:blobshrug:
 
I don’t consider how you’re framing anything about me today to be village behaviour! You are phrasing everything in the worst possible light to try and push your agenda, instead of actually saying “oh, I still Celever might be mafia, this is why, let’s talk to each other and see if I’m right”. Or maybe even, idk, also discussing your other scumread you alluded to but aren’t even putting in the thread because actually the only thing you want to accomplish today is getting me voted out instead of trying to vote out mafia.
i talked with you a fair bit about this yesterday and came to this conclusion, the flips didn't really alter anything major about my understanding of the game so i'm not sure what ground there is left to tread regarding this read. at the end of the day i just don't trust the things you've done d1 and i definitely don't trust the things you're doing d2, especially when you're writing things about me like what's in bold

Yes, scumreading someone might reduce their influence ??? slightly? I mean I don’t know why you imagine that me scumreading someone makes everyone else go “oh Celever’s right they’re scum I will simply not read their posts!” And even less so when I’m not saying they’re all scum, just like one of them.
i didn't say i imagine that

You win the game by looking at interactions and creating townpools and scumpools. That’s what I did and you’re tunnelling me for it. It’s not town solving.
anyone can solve/win the game however they want
 
i talked with you a fair bit about this yesterday and came to this conclusion, the flips didn't really alter anything major about my understanding of the game so i'm not sure what ground there is left to tread regarding this read. at the end of the day i just don't trust the things you've done d1 and i definitely don't trust the things you're doing d2, especially when you're writing things about me like what's in bold


i didn't say i imagine that


anyone can solve/win the game however they want
Bro reeeeeally dialled back all of his points in this post and just crossed his arms and went “humph, well I think I’m right”

I’m taking that as a win
 
i mean, you opened today saying that i didn't scumread you yesterday, and after i quoted the post where i outed my scumread on you you said that i didn't actually scumread you and was setting up verbal constructions for "when you flip villa" so i can say i didn't actually scumread you, despite me unambiguously saying that i think you're a wolf

if you're going to lie about me that hard i'm not sure why i should try super hard to find you here
 
i talked with you a fair bit about this yesterday and came to this conclusion, the flips didn't really alter anything major about my understanding of the game so i'm not sure what ground there is left to tread regarding this read. at the end of the day i just don't trust the things you've done d1 and i definitely don't trust the things you're doing d2, especially when you're writing things about me like what's in bold
I remember you voting Celever before ever having a serious conversation with them directly, cmiiw
i didn't say i imagine that
If that's the case then you're blowing Cel's actions way out of proportion, no other way to slice it
anyone can solve/win the game however they want
That's a crazy deflection and it just makes you seem less logical. Getting genisu vibes from that one
 
i mean, you opened today saying that i didn't scumread you yesterday, and after i quoted the post where i outed my scumread on you you said that i didn't actually scumread you and was setting up verbal constructions for "when you flip villa" so i can say i didn't actually scumread you, despite me unambiguously saying that i think you're a wolf

if you're going to lie about me that hard i'm not sure why i should try super hard to find you here
I didn’t remember the only line where you actually scumread me in amidst all of your other posts where you were fence sitting, shoot me
 
i mean, you opened today saying that i didn't scumread you yesterday, and after i quoted the post where i outed my scumread on you you said that i didn't actually scumread you and was setting up verbal constructions for "when you flip villa" so i can say i didn't actually scumread you, despite me unambiguously saying that i think you're a wolf

if you're going to lie about me that hard i'm not sure why i should try super hard to find you here
Y'know, at least Wikipedia articles have wordings with a 2% lower chance (on average) to confuse me.
 
what did i dial back? everything i've said still stands
You skirted around every rebuttal I made. If it’s not dialling back then it is, once again, you refusing to entertain anything other than the idea that I’m scum. Which you’re wrong about and blatantly isn’t towny behaviour.

Most specifically the fact that instead of going “oh he just made a scum pool which is also what everyone else I’ve ever played with does because that’s how you play mafia” you went “well people can play in lots of ways!! ”
 
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