NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

SB. in memory of our EiPP run(sorry for helping KingOfSpades(i told the dumbass to not shoot pawn or charlie and he shot you :()) you should leak me the list of our mafia !!!(or force laurel to send me all of his goodies)
 
yeah it just gives me like, first-year theater college student acting energy when you were like "leak me the mafia roster haha. i dont know the mafia, im definitely not mafia, this is what me as town would prioritize wanting the host to leak to me haha!"
 
yeah it just gives me like, first-year theater college student acting energy when you were like "leak me the mafia roster haha. i dont know the mafia, im definitely not mafia, this is what me as town would prioritize wanting the host to leak to me haha!"
do you really think of me this way :sadge:
 
just read 10 straight pages with me & laurel as a focal point at some moment during most pages, pretty cool

M2H has a legitimate reason to think it's scummy for me to claim the BPV and that just makes me townread them even more. jal technically agrees, but i feel like he's borderline uncharitable with it now because i've given him so many avenues to work with here, and he's committing to a very narrow mindset and hyperfocusing in on it. i'll say i'm not mafia, i think the concerns about the claim are justified, but you should try not to tunnel so much on this idea if you can help it. it's all for a reason... you're gonna have to look past that for now when reading me

townread: M2H, duskfall, bluedoom
townlean: hydro, laurel
light townlean: a fairy
1 mafia max, never both: shane, celever
direct poe: jalmont, flanders, joey, alice, genisu, neon

joey and neon are underlined because i don't see them being on the same mafia team, so if one of them was to flip mafia, the other is more or less safe from a vote in my eyes. this is linked to joey's treatment of neon's slot more than anything... if that's partnered then he faked things well

most notable shift in stance is probably jalmont. atp, the claim needs to happen so we can understand what happened during the night after his claim that probably should've gotten him nightkilled. neon i just don't see a great reason to put as a townread anymore because he's effectively done nothing, it's hard to justify townreading him even though i think. has partner equity with shane if shane was to flip mafia, i remember shane following up my neon townspewed thoughts by more or less agreeing and then ditching the subject altogether, which would be the sort of position i'd expect mafia to take if their partner was getting towncored for zero reason. this is a bit more tinfoil-y than i want to entertain right now, but it's still irking me that saber could've been the mafia nightkill over him. unless of course he wasn't the mafia kill, which is very possible as a martyr, but nobody's saying anything

#2,965 is an interesting post from genisu to me because my initial thought is to read this as something that would be informed if he was a partner to exactly 1 of them and so it'd suggest 1 flips with genisu if he was mafia, but trying to leverage town incorrectly thinking 1 mafia exists in a tvt situation is possible is absolutely possible too. still, think this sort of post tends to come from newer mafia that know 1 of their partners is in the equation, so if genisu was to flip mafia, i'd expect 1 of shane and celever to as well

flanders can flip with shane i think but i doubt they can be with celever, they buddied celever way too hard and straight up said celever was "beneficial to keep around" for them or something which is not phrasing you use when talking about a partner. 1 in flanders and celever though, this i see. forget shane and celever, this is the spicier difference check
 
#2,965 is an interesting post from genisu to me because my initial thought is to read this as something that would be informed if he was a partner to exactly 1 of them and so it'd suggest 1 flips with genisu if he was mafia, but trying to leverage town incorrectly thinking 1 mafia exists in a tvt situation is possible is absolutely possible too. still, think this sort of post tends to come from newer mafia that know 1 of their partners is in the equation, so if genisu was to flip mafia, i'd expect 1 of shane and celever to as well

surely the simpler logic for genisu to have arrived at "wow these 2 people are very at odds about how to solve the game, surely this isn't tvt" / "when two people argue this much one of them tends to be scum and is worried that the other, a member of town, is onto them"
 
surely the simpler logic for genisu to have arrived at "wow these 2 people are very at odds about how to solve the game, surely this isn't tvt" / "when two people argue this much one of them tends to be scum and is worried that the other, a member of town, is onto them"

yes but i'm looking just at what genisu's lens would be as mafia here. i'm not saying he can't be town and think that too, it's more like "what are celever and shane's alignments in a universe where genisu flips mafia" if that makes sense
 
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