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claiming idle is literally townier than any other claim he could have made

the argument there is was he coached or not, not that claiming idled is scummy

it's reasonably bad play (not that bad though tbh), but for sure not scummy
 
Celever said:
tbf, in contrast to my above post, you had the opportunity to do that and idled

this statement leading on from claiming to idle N1 makes his position far less towny nvm
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i didnt see the vig claim, if you check my d1 messages i said i wouldnt be on at dl, and i neglected to properly look through everything
 
genisu said:
i didnt see the vig claim, if you check my d1 messages i said i wouldnt be on at dl, and i neglected to properly look through everything
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Telegraphed incompetence is acceptable, but not backlogging during the night phase even when you weren’t in the thread live isn’t telegraphed incompetence because the expectation is you would catch up.

We cannot care that you didn’t look through everything, because scum can just as easily claim they didn’t look through everything when in actuality they did. There’s a base level of competence that town have to be held to, and if you’re beneath it then it has to be treated as a scum tell.

…however, I don’t agree with M2H that you definitely need to burn protection on JALMONT N1. The above paragraphs are for player development on your part and not for my logic surrounding your read.

The point is you could have used any ability you have in order to pre-empt a claim situation so as to grant your claim greater credibility. Or, even more so, you should have just identified that your positioning in the game wasn’t likely to reach D5 so it’s optimal to use literally anything anyway, if you’re town.
 
Celever said:
Telegraphed incompetence is acceptable, but not backlogging during the night phase even when you weren’t in the thread live isn’t telegraphed incompetence because the expectation is you would catch up.

We cannot care that you didn’t look through everything, because scum can just as easily claim they didn’t look through everything when in actuality they did. There’s a base level of competence that town have to be held to, and if you’re beneath it then it has to be treated as a scum tell.

…however, I don’t agree with M2H that you definitely need to burn protection on JALMONT N1. The above paragraphs are for player development on your part and not for my logic surrounding your read.

The point is you could have used any ability you have in order to pre-empt a claim situation so as to grant your claim greater credibility. Or, even more so, you should have just identified that your positioning in the game wasn’t likely to reach D5 so it’s optimal to use literally anything anyway, if you’re town.
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i wanted to save my one shots to be in a position where they were more useful to town
 
genisu said:
i wanted to save my one shots to be in a position where they were more useful to town
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genisu said:
i didnt think mafia was going to try shooting me and i wasnt sure where they would target, so i just chilled
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To be clear, let’s play worst case scenario (assuming JALMONT isn’t a vig and a scum team of 4) (which he isn’t!))

N1: 12-4 -> 11-4
D2: 11-4 -> 10-4
N2: 10-4 -> 9-4
D3: 9-4 -> 8-4
N3: 8-4 -> 7-4
D4- 7-4 -> 6-4
N4: 6-4 -> 5-4

If you’re town, approximately how likely did you think it would be that you would be one of the last 5 town remaining? Based on D1 where you were quite heavily shaded, so if you are town then scum are incentivised to push you out during day phases because presumably some town had low opinion of you

I could believe that you didn’t do this thinking things through, but once again that isn’t a defence it’s a misplay.
 
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