NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

And a fairy has wacky interactions with a ton of people tbh. I can see her fitting on a lot of scum team configurations. I am not thrilled with genisu/a fairy as wagons but I think they are good, pragmatic decisions.
 
But yeah I think Alice makes sense only really if I'm assuming one s in Shane/Celever, which would probably be Shane tbh. Her reads list read as if she were hiding one power player in the pile of me/tommy/shane/celever. it also bothers me that she excluded clouds and jalmont from the list but idk what to make of that. does alice not consider at the very least clouds to be in her "debate club."
 
the fact that people are lacking strong scumreads kind of just leads me further to the belief that scum have been fairly inactive, I'm not saying that every scum has a low post count/contribution level but it makes me more suspicious of genisu, fairy, HH, Alice
 
i posted more than 1 read tlm on d1. i was in the shane celever argument. ive responded to every single question posed to me. i posted a big readlist just an hour or so ago.
 
JALMONT said:
So why wouldn’t I just say I idled or say I shot so and so or say I was roleblocked?

remember if I’m mafia fake claiming then I have to assume there’s an above average probability my claim will be CC’d to open today. Why would I not just make up a result to force a CC or at least take the pressure off me. It’s totally overthinking things to believe being “erratic” is more believable than making literally any kind of result up

If you are so concerned about me being “obtuse” then you should claim or vote Laurel for partial claiming as well. The hypocritical nature of everyone complaining about me when those same people haven’t claimed is pretty ??? for me
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I think there are a few things that could inform this obtuseness.

For one, usually mafia will have some kind of protection if there’s a vig in the game. Hypothetically, you would be skilled enough to identify that scum have no protection and therefore there’s unlikely to be a vig to CC you. Alternatively, you thought that being obtuse set you up well in the event that the real vig CCed you after seeing that there wasn’t a second kill on N1, because the other vig failed to. It could be an asset to have to claim why your vig failed second.

You wouldn’t make up a result because you could get reasonably found during a massclaim. Again this would depend on you being scum and assessing your team’s roles. Maybe it’s that you don’t have a roleblocker and so expected there would be one on town, for instance. You don’t really want to claim blocked and end up in a 1v1 with a town roleblocker who didn’t target you, which would have happened.

My point is that I don’t think you’re a vig and a lot of my scumleaning is that that has to be treated as a scum strategy or otherwise mafia becomes unplayable lol. Even if you are a vig, I do think that not shooting N1 is wild based on your positioning. For all of these “if I were scum I wouldn’t do x” hypotheticals you’ve come up with, which are never truly comprehensive, I’d like it if instead you made a “if I were town vig in my position I wouldn’t shoot night 1” case. You’ve said that statement before I believe, but I still don’t understand why you wouldn’t.
 
a fairy said:
i posted more than 1 read tlm on d1. i was in the shane celever argument. ive responded to every single question posed to me. i posted a big readlist just an hour or so ago.
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your recent read list i actually did really like, that's why I moved you further down the list. to be clear i don't think the 4 I said are the scum team, just that there are definitely 1, maybe 2 scum among them
 
you aren't "inactive" but you don't have much game impact and IMO you fit on a lot of scum teams for that reason. I also think you are a likely partner to either Celever or Shane at this point. I genuinely can't tell which one is more likely.
 
" you don't have much game impact "

if this is bc i haven't claimed or been a part of debate club then so be it. i was a part of multiple major discussions, have posted full read lists, was the catalyst for the d1 jalmont wagon, etc. i think it's perfectly fair to me to question my inclusion on that list over someone like laurel tommy or joey (tbf they posted the list)
 
joey said:
is it really that surprising that someone whose entire day 1 game is saying "we shouldn't vote anyone so everyone has a chance to play the game" doesn't shoot someone n1 as vig
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When you used that claim to survive, kinda yeah. I will say that JALMONT is probably the worst skilled player on this roster to be given vig just based on his notions about the game. If I got vig, I would've been going bang bang and would probably claim d2 unprompted. :mad: :mad:
 
a fairy said:
" you don't have much game impact "

if this is bc i haven't claimed or been a part of debate club then so be it. i was a part of multiple major discussions, have posted full read lists, was the catalyst for the d1 jalmont wagon, etc. i think it's perfectly fair to me to question my inclusion on that list over someone like laurel tommy or joey (tbf they posted the list)
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