During the Kyurem suspect, Sufys posted this neat Scizor HO team that used Mud Shot Glimmora, and I found it actually can be pretty reliable (when you don't miss it).
Pretty basic but I like Sludge Wave, Mortal Spin, Power Gem and Stealth Rocks.
Yeah, Cyclizar has had a decent niche on stall teams for a while now as utility role compression - it can invest in its special bulk and run Overheat along with knock-turn-spin to pressure some gholdengo sets and eventually spin on it. The u-turn is still useful in a stall context because cyclizar is a good magma storm heatran switch in with it, you can pivot between cyclizar and flip turn alomomola to, with a few misses, pp stall all the magma storms pretty consistently.
I’m using it with Glowking right now, and they make a pretty solid regen core. I just brought in my Cyclizar trying to sac it on a scarf Iron Valiant, but they Shadow Ball expecting me to go Glowking lol. The U-Turn even makes it a Toxic absorber, and Draco threatens Gliscor. Good mon
It can sometimes just win games it shouldn't of with supreme overlord and sucker punch. It requires you to keep your counters at full health like tusk in order to not get a late game gambit sweep and that is not really healthy. I'm tired rn, I have to go to work soon at it's 6:30 where I am so sorry for the short description. It is easier to handle rn than DLC1, but it still isn't too healthy.
Appreciated, thanks! I'm admittedly only as familiar with the earliest parts of the tiering framework as those are usually the most cited. I very much subscribe to the "yeah man I like Tera but I'll take a notable chip out of it if possible" camp, and its good to know that Tera Blast ban can be justified on the teambuilding part of policy rather than being directly parallelled to moves like Baton Pass, Last Respects, etc.
I know this is meant to be a gimmick, but a lot of common leads are, well, ground types? Tusk, Treads, Gliscor, Lando, and Ting Lu all usually open a game, whether it be to set hazards, pivot, or counterlead a hazard setter. And Magnezone crumples like a paper bag/is forced to switch, in which case you would've been better off leading a mon like Specs Pult instead, who could've at least pivoted out or clicked Shadow Ball or done something other than be dead weight.
May I ask, what is the purpose of Quick Guard on Boulder (Wide used but I assume you mean Quick since Boulder gets one but not the other)? Boulder has Protect which should cover most of the same things in a Singles context without Allies to Guard, and other than depleting Sucker Punch from Kingambit (admittedly a pretty good benefit late game) and I guess stalling out a Terrain turn, doesn't this mostly put off having to switch out of an already-losing match-up at the cost of a Coverage slot? I understand this is probably one of several gimmicks you're experimenting with but I'm confused on what this accomplishes when the gimmick works that the normal set isn't able to achieve.
Sure, but once magnezone comes in, most likely your opponent will be forced to switch in their ground types which you can take advantage of to ko them, unless they have ting or clod and even still it chunks them hard. It also has bp to destroy gambit, which specs pult can't do.
I meant quick guard lmao. It is mainly to deal with rillaboom and somewhat gambit. It wasn't too successful and more so a gimmick. I didn't use porygon-Z a lot and I also used t-wave so I didn't find the status procs happened a lot. Tera blast is something cool that you can use, I just used tera electric t-bolt.
Roaring Moon destroys at +2. Dragonite at +2 destroys the tier. Anything at +2 destroys the tier.
I wonder if we can attach Garganacl to this comment. I feel like this was pre dlc and now we are in post. Ban Garganacl please
Simple answer : broken check broken..
Even the non broken stuff can check ghold i.e. the many ground or dark types in the tier. We are not saying that ghold isn't suspectable in the future, it's just stuff like the three dragons are more problematic at the moment. Compared to them, ghold is fine.
I think if UU ever ends up looking like this Gen's OU, I think we have to accept that we have lost and GF have won.
