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NOC Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Mafia - Explorers - Game Thread (Game Over!)

I just realised, if we're at lylo and neon is town, thats as good as if we lost the game, right?
why would be at lylo again? because HH is mafia?

i am willing to assume HH is not mafia mayor because it would make this a very hard game for the town given that we have a vigilante that only shoot when the moon is waxing gibbous between the times of 8:07-8:19pm when the total vowels of the names of the players who have died add up to be greater than 12 but not more than 17
 
why would be at lylo again? because HH is mafia?

i am willing to assume HH is not mafia mayor because it would make this a very hard game for the town given that we have a vigilante that only shoot when the moon is waxing gibbous between the times of 8:07-8:19pm when the total vowels of the names of the players who have died add up to be greater than 12 but not more than 17
oh no I wasn't talking about hh, I was just lamenting at the fact that we're probably fucked if it ever gets there
 
I just think I've reached a point where more effort without new information isn't gonna help.
I'm staring to get pretty concerned about you. Should I be?

you've talked a big game but it feels to me like you haven't produced the goods. What more information do you need to make an informed decision here?
 
i hope tommy's okay

a fairy
+ mafia didn't kill me when i said was going to kill af. this is null if cele is mafia since cele thinks i'm lying anyways and wouldn't have believed me.
=action usage n1 ok, n2 on celever seems very bizarre given celever was a voting option that af was against. why ??
- vibe: bad to neutral
-- on town wagons 2x
-- late claim. this is especially bad because claimed role has pretty much no town usage.


Alice Kazumi

-vibe: bad to neutral back to bad
- on town wagon 2x, I count the vote on me as town wagon for obv reasons. Alice posted 13 minutes prior to deadline the vote was tied but didn't make an effort to swap their vote after I claimed? That's sus to me
-- late claim, role is not really good enough to warrant late claiming.

bluedoom

++ early claim. role proven
++vibe: good all game
=on town wagon 1x, but not on @ deadlines to really impact

Celever

-on town wagons 2x, 1 was self pres vote
-bad claim given flipped town protection role. has hinted at role restriction
-did not claim target when claiming
-vibe: bad to badish

Duskfall98
+++++++++ cleared town by dead town role cop everything else irrelevant

it doesn't matter what dusk's role is due to the above. if joey's info actually means there's a godfather and it's dusk, well that's just extremely unlucky

HydrogenHydreigon

++ off town wagons 2x
=vibe: neutral to goodish
=role was revealed right off the bat

if hh is mafia then gg. I'm willing to say given the fact i'm a 0x vig with very little odds of gaining shots it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me for mayor to be bad here.

ImaginaryNeon

++early claim. claim is proved.
=vibe: neutral but has reached badish at times given how behind he is in sheet meta which is unusual

pretty much anything neon involved is not alignment indicative as it's a meme or some nonsensical thought process. voting here is basically just picking a player out of a hat if we wanted to do that i guess

joey
++ claim early. claimed RB by m2h. my mechanical read is that revealing there's someone who can provide a fake result is mostly town info assuming no godfather which i'm comfortable assuming.
+vibe: goodish but not really having the presence i would like
-- on town wagons 2x


Laurel


=role revealed early, abilities were claimed late (sure, whatever). gave clouds bpv d1 and doubled action d2
--on town wagon 2x, off 1x but on a very unrealistic vote. counting myself as town wagon. ended on genisu after posting with around 30 mins to deadline asking people about swapping to cel? why not just vote cel?
-vibe: bad but has gone up to badish at different times throughout the game
-gave a bpv to someone who died anyways...


M2H
++ early claim
+actions made sense and were validated (hook joey, hook flanders)
=vibe: good to badish

m2h spent a lot of time proclaiming their townness and hasn't really delivered the goods imo. there's definitely a world in which af and laurel are town while m2h and shane are scum. but i just dont' see how we can ever vote m2h out..

Shane the Shroomish

++off town wagon 2x
=vibe: neutral to badish
-idling 2x doesn;t really make a lot of sense
- late claim while not really addressing the issue. late claim is fine with the given role

StupidFlandrs48

=on town wagon 1x, off 1x - tunneled super hard on genisu wagon
-vibe: goodish to very bad
-n2 action makes no sense
-- late claim with a role that doesn't really make sense to claim late.

given this definitely very objective analysis, alice, laurel, and flanders seem like the best bets. I'm going to try and read SB and the setup now
 
I'm staring to get pretty concerned about you. Should I be?

you've talked a big game but it feels to me like you haven't produced the goods. What more information do you need to make an informed decision here?

Who in this game has produced any fucking goods we're at two mislynches, lol.

You are jumping around quite a bit, it feels like you don't want to be on laurel or celever. not really sure why since they are in your scum pile. Alice might be scum here, but idt they are my first pick. Even if just because I think its shady you want to get the vote off of Laurel. And that's what I sense your above post is trying to prompt me to do, if only implicitly.

The game opens up if we get a red flip, but beyond that its just a shit show tbqh.
 
Where I'm really at is I just think Laurel and Celever have to be scum or its over. Laurel interactions with Celever seem obviously s / s to me. Celever knows he's going down eventually, and Laurel seems to want to bus Celever really badly, like they are attempting to distance and just making an obvious pairing in the process. If you want to vote one of those two, we can talk, but I just don't see the point in further analysis at this stage.
 
I'm around if you want to talk but laurel feels like a good vote here. And ehhhh. I keep flip flopping on Celever.

I'm very uncertain about flanders because I think half of his scumminess comes from him not reading the room(he did this last game too) but I think he just took it up a notch this game.
 
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