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  • Anyway...(let's stop arguing about this :P):

    This was the entire battle:

    Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Soul Dew Clause
    timetwister7 sent out Celebi (lvl 100 Celebi).
    enjoymoosic sent out Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
    Azelf used Taunt.
    Celebi fell for the taunt!
    Celebi used U-turn.
    It's super effective!
    Azelf lost 45% of its health.
    timetwister7 switched in Weavile (lvl 100 Weavile ♂).
    Weavile is exerting its pressure!

    Weavile used Night Slash.
    It's super effective!
    Azelf lost 55% of its health.
    enjoymoosic's Azelf fainted.

    enjoymoosic has left the room.
    timetwister7 wins!
    Well, I think I've decided I'm going to start playing NU this summer, because it seems to be the most flexible tier. :D
    Ok, well those don't counter every defensive version.

    Basically, you split it in half, (with some minor exceptions):

    Milotic: LO Ice Beam on specially defensive Venusaur: 47.3-56% (Not a 2HKO)

    I'll skip Moltres, because I believe it is one of the few true counters to Venusaur.

    Swellow: Brave Bird on physically defensive Venusaur: 65.9-75% (Venusaur OHKO's in return with Sludge Bomb taking recoil into consideration)

    I'll skip Mesprit, because it does a good job.

    Rhyperior: No, EQ may be a 2HKO, but Energy Ball is a OHKO and you outspeed it.

    Houndoom: The OHKO with Fire Blast is only guarenteed with SR damage as it does 90.7-107.7%

    Note that you also have Sleep Powder to deal with.

    So there, that's 4-5 pokemon in all of UU that can deal with Venusaur. I just don't think it's healthy and is making UU into OU by forcing people to use these pokemon or lose to the #1 used pokemon in UU.
    I guess the problem with me is that no one will agree with me that Venusaur should be seriously considered for BL. I've literally resorted to Rest-Talk Cradilly just to counter it (and it doesn't even work very well!)
    I'm sorry, but UU is more boring than OU now. I'm playing against the same 10 pokemon over and over again.
    i'm hungry but i'm waiting for twenty minutes to be a more awesome hour of 6 pm
    Zangoose is really not redi
    I took off what pkmn where redi and not redi in the discussion page.

    But a few pokemon where already RNG from a previous giveway or I made better version of them (togepis)

    But you can rest easy, all wont be redi

    (note some are those are shiny)
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