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OU DPP OU Teambuilding Competition
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Team 3 Blåhaj Blast: head smash don ftwVoting has begun! The teams submitted were:
- From Saralandry: https://pokepast.es/398aa669a3667d6e
- From HydreigonTheChild: https://pokepast.es/eb7596d01c514b4e
- From Blåhaj Blast: https://pokepast.es/395149810505114e
- From Robertshortgrass: https://pokepast.es/fa465aa3e2c1aa6e
- From TyCarter: https://pokepast.es/3ac8e03555539b15
The deadline for voting is next Saturday (10/11/2024), 11:00 pm GMT.
Once voting concludes and the winner is announced, they will choose the theme for the next competition.
Congratulations to TyCarter for winning the most recent teambuilding competition by a large margin!
https://pokepast.es/3ac8e03555539b15
Since it is an odd/even week, the next theme can be any pokemon from the top 30 of the VR (link), and will be chosen by TyCarter as a reward for winning the last competition. If they don’t want to choose, or don’t choose by 12/11/2024, then I’ll post a theme by 13/11/2024 (GMT).
https://pokepast.es/3ac8e03555539b15
Since it is an odd/even week, the next theme can be any pokemon from the top 30 of the VR (link), and will be chosen by TyCarter as a reward for winning the last competition. If they don’t want to choose, or don’t choose by 12/11/2024, then I’ll post a theme by 13/11/2024 (GMT).
Once it's announced you win the competition, comment your choice in a new post with the new theme at the top of the message.
There are some rules as to what you are able to pick.
- For every odd teambuilding competition, you can pick any pokemon from the top 30 of the VR (link).
- For every even teambuilding competition, you can pick anything you want with no restrictions.
These rules are in place to ensure that we don’t get too many difficult mons to build with in a row, which has caused inactivity in the past.
You can also choose a set or a theme to build with instead of a pokemon. E.g., Build with banded tyranitar, or build with water spam. You can choose more difficult themes if you wish, but please exercise discretion.
Once picked, your choice can't be changed, so bear that in mind.
There are some rules as to what you are able to pick.
- For every odd teambuilding competition, you can pick any pokemon from the top 30 of the VR (link).
- For every even teambuilding competition, you can pick anything you want with no restrictions.
These rules are in place to ensure that we don’t get too many difficult mons to build with in a row, which has caused inactivity in the past.
You can also choose a set or a theme to build with instead of a pokemon. E.g., Build with banded tyranitar, or build with water spam. You can choose more difficult themes if you wish, but please exercise discretion.
Once picked, your choice can't be changed, so bear that in mind.
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Since it is an even numbered numbered competition, the next theme could be any pokemon from the top 30 of the VR (link), or a theme to build around. TyCarter choose a theme to build around this time, and that theme was P.I.S.S., which stands for Paralysis, Iron head, Sandstorm, and Spikes.
You can use Togekiss's Air Slash instead of Jirachi's Iron head if you want to.
As usual, the winner of this competition gets to choose the next theme.
Once it's announced you win the competition, comment your choice in a new post with the new theme at the top of the message.
There are some rules as to what you are able to pick.
- For every odd teambuilding competition, you can pick any pokemon from the top 30 of the VR (link).
- For every even teambuilding competition, you can pick anything you want with no restrictions.
These rules are in place to ensure that we don’t get too many difficult mons to build with in a row, which has caused inactivity in the past.
You can also choose a set or a theme to build with instead of a pokemon. E.g., Build with banded tyranitar, or build with water spam. You can choose more difficult themes if you wish, but please exercise discretion.
Once picked, your choice can't be changed, so bear that in mind.
There are some rules as to what you are able to pick.
- For every odd teambuilding competition, you can pick any pokemon from the top 30 of the VR (link).
- For every even teambuilding competition, you can pick anything you want with no restrictions.
These rules are in place to ensure that we don’t get too many difficult mons to build with in a row, which has caused inactivity in the past.
You can also choose a set or a theme to build with instead of a pokemon. E.g., Build with banded tyranitar, or build with water spam. You can choose more difficult themes if you wish, but please exercise discretion.
Once picked, your choice can't be changed, so bear that in mind.
Submissions are open now and will close on November 16, at 11:00 pm GMT, and from there we'll move onto voting, which will close on November 23 at 11:00 pm GMT.
Alright, here's my 2 cents:
https://pokepast.es/6cf7c1f03f6e8332
The Man of the hour, 2nd in command of ADV, Skarmory himself!
Lead Skarm goes 2 ways, either it's a Skarm that's more offensive or the usual defensive wall. I went for the Physical Wall since I needed Swamp to be offensive. Out of all the option for a Spiker (RIP Froslass), Skarmory was the best option out of the rest as Skarm provides a Steel defense for the team. Make sure to be as aggressive on Skarmory as much as possible as Skarm will die to Mag if you're careless. Don't be hesitant to double switch if you have the feeling Mag is breathing on you rn.
Since Skarmory is deadly allergic to Magnets, I figured the best option would be Swampert!
Swampert's awesome typing let it not only shrug off Electrics, Swamp's bulk allows it to act as a lynchpin that specifically calls for a grass move needed to deal with. Refresh is a sweet option if you hate status, Focus Punch works well on pressuring annoying stall teams.
Since this team requires Sand, Choice Scarf Tyranitar is a fine option to pick off both Latias & Gengars planning on ruining your day.
T-Tar's job is simple, trap any Pokemon weak to Dark, set up Sand, then leave. I've slotted in Stealth Rocks since Tar is good at scaring off opposing Pokemon placed in an awkward situation. Tar provides temporary breathing space for Special Attacks thrown around.
This was an interesting spot that we're in, since Skarmory provides defense physically, why not have a utility Rotom providing a Fire type spot?
IK this wasn't entirely original, but Rotom does provide the team:
-A levitator
-Double status
-An excellent typing
The downside towards Utility Rotom is the reliance of Pain Split itself, Chesto berry is useful at granting Rotom recovery & removes painful status all in 1 turn! Just make sure to be wise when using Rest as Rotom's pitiful HP means it can't tank as much abuse even with good defenses.
Double levitators is pretty common in bulky offense, seeing how Latias is a good wincon in 70% of teams built.
I love Latias as she is the glue towards many team archetypes developed, you could use defensive Latias to spread even more paralysis, though Calm Mind + 2 attacks is pretty good at eliminating a hidden Scizor in the last slot. Latias's excellent bulk + reliable recovery allows her to set up a generous amounts of Calm Minds. Do take note that T-Tar or Scizor will try to snipe you with Pursuit should you reveal Latias too early.
The last Pokemon on our list will be the 3rd member of DPP's big 3, Jirachi!
Bc this team needed an option to tackle DD dancers, Jirachi is a solid choice acting as another lynchpin dealing with Lum berry dancers. Shuca is mandatory in order for Jirachi to eat up a boosted Earthquake before finishing off its targets with its mixed coverage.
Iron Head is a blessing to our wishmaking genie, to the point that Jirachi sparked controversy in the DPP community, it's also needed to provide mixed Rachi a STAB option to clean up remaining teams.
Grass Knot is needed, seeing how Swampert could pose a threat to this team, maybe Hidden Power Ground could also be used if you hate Heatran. Either way, Jirachi does its work wonderfully regardless.
Admittedly, I'm not too familar with opting Mixed Rachi, so if the EVs are a bit off, don't be hesitant to readjust the EVs to your appropriate standards.
Thank you!
https://pokepast.es/6cf7c1f03f6e8332
The Man of the hour, 2nd in command of ADV, Skarmory himself!
Lead Skarm goes 2 ways, either it's a Skarm that's more offensive or the usual defensive wall. I went for the Physical Wall since I needed Swamp to be offensive. Out of all the option for a Spiker (RIP Froslass), Skarmory was the best option out of the rest as Skarm provides a Steel defense for the team. Make sure to be as aggressive on Skarmory as much as possible as Skarm will die to Mag if you're careless. Don't be hesitant to double switch if you have the feeling Mag is breathing on you rn.
Since Skarmory is deadly allergic to Magnets, I figured the best option would be Swampert!
Swampert's awesome typing let it not only shrug off Electrics, Swamp's bulk allows it to act as a lynchpin that specifically calls for a grass move needed to deal with. Refresh is a sweet option if you hate status, Focus Punch works well on pressuring annoying stall teams.
Since this team requires Sand, Choice Scarf Tyranitar is a fine option to pick off both Latias & Gengars planning on ruining your day.
T-Tar's job is simple, trap any Pokemon weak to Dark, set up Sand, then leave. I've slotted in Stealth Rocks since Tar is good at scaring off opposing Pokemon placed in an awkward situation. Tar provides temporary breathing space for Special Attacks thrown around.
This was an interesting spot that we're in, since Skarmory provides defense physically, why not have a utility Rotom providing a Fire type spot?
IK this wasn't entirely original, but Rotom does provide the team:
-A levitator
-Double status
-An excellent typing
The downside towards Utility Rotom is the reliance of Pain Split itself, Chesto berry is useful at granting Rotom recovery & removes painful status all in 1 turn! Just make sure to be wise when using Rest as Rotom's pitiful HP means it can't tank as much abuse even with good defenses.
Double levitators is pretty common in bulky offense, seeing how Latias is a good wincon in 70% of teams built.
I love Latias as she is the glue towards many team archetypes developed, you could use defensive Latias to spread even more paralysis, though Calm Mind + 2 attacks is pretty good at eliminating a hidden Scizor in the last slot. Latias's excellent bulk + reliable recovery allows her to set up a generous amounts of Calm Minds. Do take note that T-Tar or Scizor will try to snipe you with Pursuit should you reveal Latias too early.
The last Pokemon on our list will be the 3rd member of DPP's big 3, Jirachi!
Bc this team needed an option to tackle DD dancers, Jirachi is a solid choice acting as another lynchpin dealing with Lum berry dancers. Shuca is mandatory in order for Jirachi to eat up a boosted Earthquake before finishing off its targets with its mixed coverage.
Iron Head is a blessing to our wishmaking genie, to the point that Jirachi sparked controversy in the DPP community, it's also needed to provide mixed Rachi a STAB option to clean up remaining teams.
Grass Knot is needed, seeing how Swampert could pose a threat to this team, maybe Hidden Power Ground could also be used if you hate Heatran. Either way, Jirachi does its work wonderfully regardless.
Admittedly, I'm not too familar with opting Mixed Rachi, so if the EVs are a bit off, don't be hesitant to readjust the EVs to your appropriate standards.
Thank you!
https://pokepast.es/beb2888fd03b4cdb
I built this shit some months ago and during SPL and post SPL. I wanted the dumbest shit as possible. I did a good job.
Scarf TTar cause Gengar is annoying and having a little bit of speed control is always good. SR Scarf Tar is shit now ik but who else for rocks ?
Demon Rotom as I already explained can 1v1 Clef, TTar, Jirachi, Breloom and many others. Anti-Spin + CR is always oppressive w/e if Spikes / TS are up.
Nido can be a lot of stuff, thinking mainly of SpD with Tect and FlameT cause Nape is awful MU if I don't get TS up early. I still pref this set cause it prevents Spikes from Skarm and many setups. Counter is good bait to many physical attackers and with it you force out Skarm / Clef etc when Taunted. But ig Flame / Ibeam > Counter are usable.
Wish Clef to abuse PISS and to keep healthy mainly Rotom / Rachi / Nido.
Skarm is Skarm. Counter > BB can be considered.
Rachi is affected by the 4 moves syndromes. IH and FPunch are needed, BSlam is good into Glisc but the fucking 60% are cursed, TWave is wonderful but you ff T1 vs Taunt Glisc, IPunch good into Dnite / Glisc / Flygon but that means no para move ( sucks into Jirachi mirror ) cause I consider that Protect is a must have for a such team. Longevity and abusing of PISS = perfect so running a 4 Atk set even if sexier is kinda weird in that sense ( IH FP IP TW/BS ? ). Max speed is needed, Atk is enjoyable to be oppressive but idk if necessary ... maybe more bulk, some sort of precise spread to know what to tank exactly ( prob some dder since the team isn't very good into it ).
Ban Confuse Ray.
BONUS : I gave this team to SDO players for Galaxy League to see what else I could discover since we had a high concentration of subjects. We have so much to learn about this world and I must know more. Dastardlydwarf thank you for your ... contribution.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4ou-2212232842-pxz272sh0odbrxy5i1lc801nald39rjpw
EDIT : changed the nature of nido, was a mistake, ty Christos
I built this shit some months ago and during SPL and post SPL. I wanted the dumbest shit as possible. I did a good job.
Scarf TTar cause Gengar is annoying and having a little bit of speed control is always good. SR Scarf Tar is shit now ik but who else for rocks ?
Demon Rotom as I already explained can 1v1 Clef, TTar, Jirachi, Breloom and many others. Anti-Spin + CR is always oppressive w/e if Spikes / TS are up.
Nido can be a lot of stuff, thinking mainly of SpD with Tect and FlameT cause Nape is awful MU if I don't get TS up early. I still pref this set cause it prevents Spikes from Skarm and many setups. Counter is good bait to many physical attackers and with it you force out Skarm / Clef etc when Taunted. But ig Flame / Ibeam > Counter are usable.
Wish Clef to abuse PISS and to keep healthy mainly Rotom / Rachi / Nido.
Skarm is Skarm. Counter > BB can be considered.
Rachi is affected by the 4 moves syndromes. IH and FPunch are needed, BSlam is good into Glisc but the fucking 60% are cursed, TWave is wonderful but you ff T1 vs Taunt Glisc, IPunch good into Dnite / Glisc / Flygon but that means no para move ( sucks into Jirachi mirror ) cause I consider that Protect is a must have for a such team. Longevity and abusing of PISS = perfect so running a 4 Atk set even if sexier is kinda weird in that sense ( IH FP IP TW/BS ? ). Max speed is needed, Atk is enjoyable to be oppressive but idk if necessary ... maybe more bulk, some sort of precise spread to know what to tank exactly ( prob some dder since the team isn't very good into it ).
Ban Confuse Ray.
BONUS : I gave this team to SDO players for Galaxy League to see what else I could discover since we had a high concentration of subjects. We have so much to learn about this world and I must know more. Dastardlydwarf thank you for your ... contribution.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4ou-2212232842-pxz272sh0odbrxy5i1lc801nald39rjpw
EDIT : changed the nature of nido, was a mistake, ty Christos
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i wanted to build with iron head heatran for the extra i in piss and this is what i came up with:
https://pokepast.es/337f16450dff796e
tspikes forre because this has a terrible mu vs pert otherwise, twave lati, spdef hippo, resttalk gyara with 8 speed to beat rotom after they trick, adamant rachi for better odds against clef and the featured set: adamant heatran with iron head earthquake lava plume and protect.
now, to be honest lava and protect will be what you click most of the time, but this has 3 mons that can flinch and if thats not amazing idk what it is.
heres a replay idk:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4ou-2242516150-zrh6vgsdzm3o3rrl6m7im55o37d7mnhpw
https://pokepast.es/337f16450dff796e
tspikes forre because this has a terrible mu vs pert otherwise, twave lati, spdef hippo, resttalk gyara with 8 speed to beat rotom after they trick, adamant rachi for better odds against clef and the featured set: adamant heatran with iron head earthquake lava plume and protect.
now, to be honest lava and protect will be what you click most of the time, but this has 3 mons that can flinch and if thats not amazing idk what it is.
heres a replay idk:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4ou-2242516150-zrh6vgsdzm3o3rrl6m7im55o37d7mnhpw
https://pokepast.es/b3a66d42c2ad91a9
Skarm lead because it's usually good mu vs balanced / stall teams, be careful to magnet pull tho
TTar is there for defensive and trap purposes, i got inspired by bw defensive ttar set and it turned out pretty good. I really like twave because you can hit big threats such as infernape and breloom which really likes to switchin on you. It also helps me a lot vs defensive rotom, i can always switch in and even if i get a burn i have heal bell to get rid of status.
Jirachi is a good lategame sweeper, this set helps me against swampert and steel types and is the best set to abuse the paraspam.
I took togekiss set from togaquest's rmt and i think that's pretty good, helps me vs gengar and heal bell is pretty good in general. I always try to paralyze rotom on the switch in and i can even stay in if i need that para because this pokemon is so much bulky.
Starmie is pretty standard, i really like defensive starmie but i wanted to use a 350+ speed to help me against rotom, gengar, latias, gliscor, infernape. Starmie is another pkmn which bait the rotom switch in and help me paralyze that in order to sweep with rhyperior.
Rhyperior is so strong, spread is to get 101 hp substitute and enough speed to outspeed and setup on fable (even if that's not paralyzed) and also outpseed slow swamperts and hippos. Standard moveset, i also tried iron head and it was fun but sub+sd is best set to abuse twave spam, however you can change iron head over swords dance or substitute.
I also wanted to try confuse ray rotom on this team but i didn't want to remove jirachi, i could remove skarmory but then it wouldn't be piss anymore.
clefless subpass stall
https://pokepast.es/896ac49e5883829f
skarm and hippo youve seen a hundred times and this team does nothing interesting with them, i will say though that hippowdon is the answer to dragon/fire/eq or superpower coverage
the lack of clefable on this kind of team is bound to raise an eye, its the only twaver with reliable recovery and a sand immunity. this team does kinda trickshot its way into not necessarily needing her though. cm latias is an adequete spdef wall, sciz deals with gar and jirachi deals with rotom.
onto whats actually in the team, and the four sets that may raise eyebrows;
cm lati is pretty damn good on a subpass team and lets you get actual value out of the concept while being a solid wincon. dont be afraid to switch out of +1/1 if you need to. dedicated heatran answer
mono discharge subpass zapdos is what the team is built around, i originally had a diff team that was super heatran weak that i scrapped when i figured this guy could work well. using substitute on paralysed targets when you have reliable recovery is so stupid, baton pass on top of that lets the team not be super passive. you have three other ground immunes to check grounds
the last two are a bit more odd. restsnore jirachi over wishtalk is so that theres a reliable answer to clef and resttalk rotom. getting a snore flinch is great to burn turns. bslam over twave because we handle ghosts fine. you'll feel the loss of protect more than the loss of wish, ESPECIALLY if up against kingdra
scizor is a really hard justify over the other two "has knock, is immune to sandstorm, has reliable recovery" in glisc and clef, in that he is hit by spikes and has worse defences, but is a better subpass target than either of the two on the basis of big fuckoff attack stat plus technician, meaning he does more per turn while the other two get more turns to do stuff, but hey! here we have a substitute up. knock allows for midgame progress and works well behind a sub because its hard to switch into but easy to trade up by just doing more damage. if you can take out rotom zapdos starmie skarm, you should be able to get a kill whenever a sub is passed to the guy. its also nice to have bullet punch as backup incase shit hits the fan, because i find many stall teams kind of fall apart once a member is down to a crit or poorly timed freeze.
team struggles most into zapmie, kingdra (not other rain just kingdra) and HO structures, is competent into other structures.
https://pokepast.es/896ac49e5883829f
skarm and hippo youve seen a hundred times and this team does nothing interesting with them, i will say though that hippowdon is the answer to dragon/fire/eq or superpower coverage
the lack of clefable on this kind of team is bound to raise an eye, its the only twaver with reliable recovery and a sand immunity. this team does kinda trickshot its way into not necessarily needing her though. cm latias is an adequete spdef wall, sciz deals with gar and jirachi deals with rotom.
onto whats actually in the team, and the four sets that may raise eyebrows;
cm lati is pretty damn good on a subpass team and lets you get actual value out of the concept while being a solid wincon. dont be afraid to switch out of +1/1 if you need to. dedicated heatran answer
mono discharge subpass zapdos is what the team is built around, i originally had a diff team that was super heatran weak that i scrapped when i figured this guy could work well. using substitute on paralysed targets when you have reliable recovery is so stupid, baton pass on top of that lets the team not be super passive. you have three other ground immunes to check grounds
the last two are a bit more odd. restsnore jirachi over wishtalk is so that theres a reliable answer to clef and resttalk rotom. getting a snore flinch is great to burn turns. bslam over twave because we handle ghosts fine. you'll feel the loss of protect more than the loss of wish, ESPECIALLY if up against kingdra
scizor is a really hard justify over the other two "has knock, is immune to sandstorm, has reliable recovery" in glisc and clef, in that he is hit by spikes and has worse defences, but is a better subpass target than either of the two on the basis of big fuckoff attack stat plus technician, meaning he does more per turn while the other two get more turns to do stuff, but hey! here we have a substitute up. knock allows for midgame progress and works well behind a sub because its hard to switch into but easy to trade up by just doing more damage. if you can take out rotom zapdos starmie skarm, you should be able to get a kill whenever a sub is passed to the guy. its also nice to have bullet punch as backup incase shit hits the fan, because i find many stall teams kind of fall apart once a member is down to a crit or poorly timed freeze.
team struggles most into zapmie, kingdra (not other rain just kingdra) and HO structures, is competent into other structures.
Voting has begun! The teams submitted were:
1. From Jhall99 https://pokepast.es/6cf7c1f03f6e8332
2. From Le Don: https://pokepast.es/beb2888fd03b4cdb
3. From Blåhaj Blast: https://pokepast.es/337f16450dff796e
4. From Tizio Potente Ao: https://pokepast.es/b3a66d42c2ad91a9
5. From Sevenor3: https://pokepast.es/896ac49e5883829f
6. From Jeong: https://pokepast.es/ac6835927876cb7c
The deadline for voting is next Saturday (23/11/2024), 11:00 pm GMT.
Once voting concludes and the winner is announced, they will choose the theme for the next competition.
1. From Jhall99 https://pokepast.es/6cf7c1f03f6e8332
2. From Le Don: https://pokepast.es/beb2888fd03b4cdb
3. From Blåhaj Blast: https://pokepast.es/337f16450dff796e
4. From Tizio Potente Ao: https://pokepast.es/b3a66d42c2ad91a9
5. From Sevenor3: https://pokepast.es/896ac49e5883829f
6. From Jeong: https://pokepast.es/ac6835927876cb7c
The deadline for voting is next Saturday (23/11/2024), 11:00 pm GMT.
Once voting concludes and the winner is announced, they will choose the theme for the next competition.
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If you have one ready and share it now, I can add in in last minute. You were around 2 hours of the deadline.NNNNNNNNO, i wanted to share my team.
Hm, team 4.
Ok,
RotomW is one of my favorite pokemon, so I wanted to try something different this time. Maybe it's not very original, like the team too, but oh well. I was looking for a balanced team with good synergy. True, being lead, if you don't manage to surprise, you can be in a bad situation. Normally, if played well, I think it has a good match up against several common leads. The problem is ttar, although there is the threat of Hpump, of course. In fact, the cast is simple, it can withstand Crunch from Scarf ttar, although the kill percentage is high. 184 in speed (254) for Heatran Specs lead, for example. Well, to sum up, the rest of the team is Scarf ttar, precisely, to catch threats like Latias, Gengar or Starmie. Speaking of Starmie, it's my Spinner, even if I'm not a big fan of this mon, but I think it fits well and gives that support to the team. Hpump on Surf because they are 2ohko to Scarf ttar itself. It's a bit more bulky to fit some hits. Latias doesn't have much mystery, Specs set with Stalk for the always annoying Breloom. I had doubts with the cast of Evs in Skarmory / nature. Finally, looking at the team above, I consider Impish (physical) to be the best option. I had a little left over, and decided to invest in SpD. The 12 in speed for Machamp, if not full speed. Finally, it could not be other than Jirachi. My SR user on Tect or Wish, since I wanted to change with ttar and release it. 156 atk vs -1 LO Lucario. 24 Def to fit EQ+1 Gyara.
https://pokepast.es/ac6835927876cb7c
Jhal99
