Popcorn Mafia 4 - Cycle 4 Deadline August 25 at 10PM EDT

Evie said:
who is in the poe for you?
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Afks are the priority rn, like flanders is my preferred shot, pulsar and skipper understandable

There people are not getting cleared and they are inevitable, hero shooting into someone else’s townreads doesn’t allow us to to progress the game any further now and we are just waiting for these guys before we can develop further at this point
 
Tommy my only issue with a flanders is that I thought for sure that he was going to flip scum in the previous game for flaking for a phase and then he flipped town so idk

I do think that his town meta is to start fights with over half the player list which he isn't doing but he has also been inactive in hosting his own diplo game so I dunno if that's alignment indicative
 
bluedoom I think flanders is mafia bur even if he’s town he has played in a way that he has to be shot and him being in the game actively hurts town, sadly

I do think his pop ins which he did again recently are very wolfy and honestly it rings of someone pinging him to post because he’s not bothered to do so until someone tells him to

It’s very much, I’ve been told to say something “oh no, x was shot” “here’s one read, ok bye I’m done”
 
I want skipper shot because I trust realiti's assessment of skipper just immediately going OMGUS on the people who scumread him as town, and it does feel like him not having a strong voice on who is scum and him feeling that the people who scumread him are town feels like a difference in behaviour that I'm not used to
 
Tommy said:
bluedoom I think flanders is mafia bur even if he’s town he has played in a way that he has to be shot and him being in the game actively hurts town, sadly

I do think his pop ins which he did again recently are very wolfy and honestly it rings of someone pinging him to post because he’s not bothered to do so until someone tells him to

It’s very much, I’ve been told to say something “oh no, x was shot” “here’s one read, ok bye I’m done”
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Right, I can see that
 
Skipper is a fine shot, I’m just a bit annoyed that we had a good few acceptable shots you had a lot of choices and instead we have now had an afk idle out, then a hero shot on consensus town that the read was dropped so last minute we didn’t even get to see what peoples reaction to the shot was

We don’t know any info from Miyami shot because he was townread by nearly everyone who read him (including ap) until he was shot and then his alignment was flipped

If you’re going to her shoot (don’t) please give the thread at least some time to react so we can get reads off it
 
Tommy said:
Skipper is a fine shot, I’m just a bit annoyed that we had a good few acceptable shots you had a lot of choices and instead we have now had an afk idle out, then a hero shot on consensus town that the read was dropped so last minute we didn’t even get to see what peoples reaction to the shot was

We don’t know any info from Miyami shot because he was townread by nearly everyone who read him (including ap) until he was shot and then his alignment was flipped

If you’re going to her shoot (don’t) please give the thread at least some time to react so we can get reads off it
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Didn't you scumread miyami? I remember scumreading them reading off of your exchange with them during c2 and mindmelding with you on that
 
Tommy said:
Looking the list now

I want Texas and celever to fight more because they aren’t both mafia and I think it gives good info to have them both in the game and see who sides where tbh, they also could be both town, but have both done sus things too so shruggles

Bluedoom a little scummy I think, he’s not contributing/solving too hard, ngl I completely ghosted his questions to me d1 and he didn’t care LOL, I was expecting him to chase me up, but yeah that’s just a side note overall I think he’s giving less than usual

Airc I thought had some towny posts but not
confident

Miyami and Evie are like the towniest of the newer players I’ve not met before surface level, obviously I’ve no meta but I’d not shoot them

Des pulsar can get shot for not really trying

Flanders can get shot because he’s probably mafia

Skipper/joey I am not really able to read either way rn I wouldn’t mind if someone shot them but not a priority for me

Realiti town by reads but not by gameplay

Dbd id still lean mafia but I do think I am a little biased against him over like a certain period and I recognise that he’s killed fairly regularly and I haven’t played that much in recent times so maybe I’m making a mistake others are but I still think just looking at him to his face he seems scummy

Phoopes I believe emotionally is town, he seems to genuinely be trying to solve, and I think that’s been under appreciated by thread and made out he’s trying less than he is - and I think his response to all this is believable because I agree that he is doing best (and well tbh, for a new player), his denial/assertations off these just seems like mistreated town to me
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bluedoom

i think you might have been the only person who wanted to shoot Miyami
 
I think I had a mindmeld with joey when he popped in last talking about how hard it is to really have any concrete reads and talk about anyone but someone mentioned that he made a few posts during c1 talking about figuring out des' alignment and that sounds too tryhard to be believable
 
Btw I just read an ap post talking about avoiding shooting flanders for having vengeful equity

Honestly if anyone is using this as a reason not to shoot people they really shouldn't; mafia are still hurt the most by 1:1 trades, shooting a vengeful mafia is still +ev. I don't think the mafia playstyle of drawing the shot towards you so that you can kill off someone even makes sense when you're the bigger loser numbers wise.


Lesson being just shoot your scumreads without vengeful spec influencing you.
 
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