Metagame Bio Mech Mons

[DaddyBuzzwole]

Given that metronome(item) is an actually decent item with legitimate use and metronome(move) is a completely useless move you could just ban metronome(move)

even telling them apart in the validator is an issue. if a move name is valid in every slot, and an item name is valid in every slot, how are we meant to tell whether a user is trying to put the banned move metronome or the valid item metronome in a given slot?

 

[duckycrater]

I'm horrible at programming but you could just always have it assume its the valid item metronome in any slot(this probably causes 18000 bugs tho)

 

[DaddyBuzzwole]

I'm horrible at programming but you could just always have it assume its the valid item metronome in any slot(this probably causes 18000 bugs tho)

i mean i guess so? on the surface it seems like this solves all of the immediate problems, which means that it probably creates dozens of new and exciting problems. still worth a try if we're going this route

 

[Low-Key]

even telling them apart in the validator is an issue. if a move name is valid in every slot, and an item name is valid in every slot, how are we meant to tell whether a user is trying to put the banned move metronome or the valid item metronome in a given slot?

Maybe code in some sort of differentiator. For example, MetronomeMove would be the move, and MetronomeItem would be the item. Not sure if that would be the cleanest fix though.

 

[Demon Queen]

Don't worry guys I have a solution! Simply input メトロノーム (Metronome) for the item and ゆびをふる (Wag Finger) for the move. No problem!

Appletun @ ripen
Ability: Gluttony
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Recycle
- aguavberry
- starfberry
- Bullet Seed

What do we think, kids? Is this our next potential mon?

 

[Sceptilite_Z]

On things that would probably never see the light of day:
What would Pickup and Fling do?
I'm assuming they just do not work with non-items and also don't work if they aren't from the item slot, but in theory, what if you had a pickup mon with no item and only one move (recycle would be funniest) against a mon that had 5 berries and used them all?

 

[Power Panpour]

My Horrendous creations

Yanmega @ Speed Boost
Ability: Tinted Lens
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
Tera Type: Bug
- Bug Buzz
- Insect Plate
- Silver Powder
- Throat Spray

Meatiest Bug Buzz in all of the Pokéverse. If you don't care about speed and just want to commit horeg, you can swap out Speed Boost for Life Orb or Wise Glasses
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Great Tusk @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Leftovers
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
Tera Type: Fairy
- Rapid Spin
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Ice Spinner

Some Great Tusk sets don't really use Protosynthesis. Why don't we take advantage of that? I know it looks simple, but Boots+Leftovers is a great way to make Tusk better at warding off hits.
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Iron Valiant @ Life Orb
Ability: Knock Off
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
Tera Type: Dark
- Close Combat
- Ice Punch
- Moonblast
- Thunderbolt
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I've always been frustrated at Valiant's 4 moveslot syndrome, but now that we can run 5 moves, I can finally hit Gholdengo, Gliscor, and Corviknight without sacrificing stab coverage.
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Slowking-Galar @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 4 SpDef
Quiet Nature
- Psychic Noise
- Assault Vest
- Leftovers
- Sludge Bomb

Fat f*ck Slowking. What are YOU gonna do about it?

 

[wavvy]

having fun

Keldeo-Resolute @ leftovers
ability: substitute
tera type: water
EV’s: 252 spatk / 4 sdef / 252 spe
timid nature
-calm mind
-hydro pump/surf
-secret sword
-vacuum wave/icy wind/focus blast


enamorous-incarnate @ choice specs
ability: heavy duty boots
tera type: fairy
EV’s: 252 spatk / 4 sdef / 252 spe
timid nature
-fairy feather
-pixie plate
-life orb
-moonblast


Ogerpon-Cornerstone @ Cornerstone Mask
Ability: choice band
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Power whip
- hard stone
- stone plate

 

[RADU]

Given that metronome(item) is an actually decent item with legitimate use and metronome(move) is a completely useless move you could just ban metronome(move)

the coding team will best know what we can do about this situation, and it's such a non-relevant scenario I'd rather do whatever ends up being easiest for them

On things that would probably never see the light of day:
What would Pickup and Fling do?
I'm assuming they just do not work with non-items and also don't work if they aren't from the item slot, but in theory, what if you had a pickup mon with no item and only one move (recycle would be funniest) against a mon that had 5 berries and used them all?

Fling would try to use what's in the item slot, and if it's not an item it would fail.
Pickup would try to take what's in the adjacent Pokemon's item slot if its own item slot is empty, no matter what element is in there

 

[Kizaco]

Ideas
Pelipper @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Water
- Rain dish
- Surf
- Protect
- U-turn
+
Basculegion (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Swift Swim
Tera Type: Water
- Adaptability
- Mold breaker
- Wave Crash
- Life Orb


Tropius @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Chlorophyll
Tera Type: Grass
IVs: 0 Atk
- Solar Power
- Harvest
- Solar Beam
- Air Slash
+
Torkoal @ Heat Rock
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Fire
- Eject button
- Weather Ball
- Solar Beam
- Will-O-Wisp


Hawlucha @ Grassy Seed
Ability: Unburden
Tera Type: Fighting
- Acrobatics
- Mold Breaker
- Close Combat
- Life Orb
+
Rillaboom @ Terrain Extender
Ability: Grassy Surge
Tera Type: Grass
- Assault Vest
- Grassy Glide
- U-turn
- Knock Off

Im pretty bad but these cores feel like, really good. The buffs to the weather/terrain mons go kinda crazy, especially my goat tropius