Pet Mod Legends Z-A OU

[Zyro Zetta]

let's go through existing megas warning I will be only covering RU ranked mega in national dex formats
Swampert Mega Form: Swift Swim is fine I mean if Heatran grass Earth so you could give him Sap Sapper
Steelix Mega Form: I guess Sheer Force would be fine but Only move I see benifiting is Iron Head

Or tinted lens, since it's stabs are walled by a pretty portion of the types

yeah I was considering that too but then thought adaptibility will give it more damage output on most things so yeah

 

[Cuddly]

Or tinted lens, since it's stabs are walled by a pretty portion of the types

Lets NOT give the fast 145 SpA Mega access to unresisted STAB combo.
Mega Scolipede only has Tinted Lens because Bug and Poison can be walled even after Tinted Lens boost. Any Steel type that quad resists Bug walls Mega Scolipede’s STAB combo and Skarmory walls Scolipede entirely (and Mega Heatran but that wasn’t introduced until the DLC (and so would Pecharunt if it was available)).
Nothing quad resists Dragon at all, and Fairy itself doesn’t resist Grass. The only thing that could wall TL Mega Sceptile’s STABs is Azumarill with Sap Sipper.

 

[SekihaTenkyo]

Mega Raichu X should get Galvenize.
Yeah it already gets the +1 Atk from Volt Tackle, but that’s really all it does and Ground types prevent that boost anyways. With Galvinize, you get Electric E-Speed, which would let it hit the main stronger and faster Megas or just Pokemon.
Even if it means giving up that +1 Atk boost from Volt Tackle, it’d be better off with Galvanize Extreme Speed and Return/Double-Edge.

Somewhat agreed on Return, but Double Edge I'm kinda ehhh on. I feel like the power increase is nice, but at that point you may as well click Volt for the attack raise and whatever.

I still feel like Galvanize isn't really all that. The Espeed is REALLY nice, the priority control is nice, but it still gets completely walled by Ground types, and if you have something physically tanky, it can eat the hit pretty okay. Which, sure, Raichu pivots for, but still. Any team with a ground type just annoys Raichu, because it really can't do shit to them. Galvanize isn't fixing that - really, nothing is. Part of me still feels some kinda other ability for utility's sake would end up being better, but I'm still rattling my brain on that one. I dunno, maybe I'm just silly.

i feel like all ive done in this thread is argue about xchu lmfao, I swear I have more to say

 

[MC Squared]

Is there a VR for this Petmod?

 

[GoTELuckyCharms]

I think the problem with steelworker, and rocky payload in glimmora case, is these abilities are supposed to be used to make the pokemon with them (dhelmise and bombirdier) psuedo triple types. They aren't meant to be used as just damage boosting abilities.

We already have steely spirit if we want to give Lucario z something to boost steel damage. And for glimmora....idk maybe just give it adaptability? Similar damage as rocky payload for rock moves and I don't think the extra poison damage will be enough to break it

Damn, I forgot about steely spirit. That's even better lol

 

[Sulfurian]

I would give Raichu X surge surfer. My reason being is that while he flies in the air and it looks like levitate, the same could be said for Alolan Raichu, and in X's dex it says it floats using electric currents from the ears and tails, it would combo nicely with having double speed, and using the boost from electric terrain with volt tackle. It combos nicely with the buffed defenses and having no way to boost offenses, so adamant+double speed just works. We just need them to put an actually good electric terrain setter lol

 

[yuga yotta]

I would give Raichu X surge surfer. My reason being is that while he flies in the air and it looks like levitate, the same could be said for Alolan Raichu, and in X's dex it says it floats using electric currents from the ears and tails, it would combo nicely with having double speed, and using the boost from electric terrain with volt tackle. It combos nicely with the buffed defenses and having no way to boost offenses, so adamant+double speed just works. We just need them to put an actually good electric terrain setter lol

Tbh that sounds good on paper but trust me it is not pratical

 

[yuga yotta]

I would give Raichu X surge surfer. My reason being is that while he flies in the air and it looks like levitate, the same could be said for Alolan Raichu, and in X's dex it says it floats using electric currents from the ears and tails, it would combo nicely with having double speed, and using the boost from electric terrain with volt tackle. It combos nicely with the buffed defenses and having no way to boost offenses, so adamant+double speed just works. We just need them to put an actually good electric terrain setter lol

And we can only use Z-A dex so unless there is a second DLC we don't have a decent setter

 

[Bluwing]

Mega Evolution: Clefable-Mega

New Ability: Moonbind

Ability Description (if it doesn't currently exist): On switch-in, summons Gravity for 5 turns. Mega Clefable is immune to Ground moves and ground-based hazard damage (except Stealth Rock) while Moonbind is active.

Reasoning: Moonbind fits Mega‑Clefable perfectly because it blends flavor, typing, and game role: the moon/charms theme matches Clefable’s lunar Fairy identity, the anchoring gravity mechanic explains a protective, comforting aura while still grounding the field for teammates, and the self‑exception (keeping Flying immunity and blocking ground hazards) lets Mega‑Clefable leverage its bulky support/utility stats without being punished by common checks like Earthquake or Spikes. Mechanically it rewards Clefable’s typical role as a stall/support pivot—enabling safer switch‑ins, denying common hazard/ground answers, and forcing opponents to adapt—while remaining limited (5 turns, overrides Gravity, doesn’t ignore Stealth Rock), so it’s flavorful, synergistic, and balanced for competitive play.

 

[Ostenberg]

What is the most broken ZA mon according to you in the current meta. It's Baxcaliber/M-Baxcaliber for me. Everytime this thing appears boss music starts playing. Non of the Z mons, magerna, Annhilape and even genesect are this much of a menace.

 

[SekihaTenkyo]

What is the most broken ZA mon according to you in the current meta. It's Baxcaliber/M-Baxcaliber for me. Everytime this thing appears boss music starts playing. Non of the Z mons, magerna, Annhilape and even genesect are this much of a menace.

100% it's Genesect for me. I'm not too surprised it's been getting to roam freely, but at the same time its just as stupid as expected. It really is just the "slap this on your team for free offensive pivot" slot. I don't think there's much downside to bringing it. It might be a little squishy at times, but at the same time, lol lmao. I should be running Scarf, but I feel like Band is just as stupid. Scarf is fucking ridiculous though.

I don't think it immediately needs to go, it's not THAT unhealthy, but I also don't think it should stick around long-term. It's sorta brainless, because unless you're clicking U-Turn into like, Heatran, the U-Turn is still doing a lot. And even then, it's not even doing that bad of damage for a quad resist (even on 252/252 Heatran, banded U-Turn is doing like 10-15%, which isn't nothing, that's w/o a Download boost).

I think there's absolutely scarier things than Genesect - the aforementioned Bax, for one - but like, this thing is just so stupid easy to pilot. I feel like I'm using a fucking Gameshark.

EDIT FOR EXTRA NUANCE: For what it's worth, I don't really blame the mod team or whoever else for not banning Genesect quickly or whatnot, as I think it's not a really "obvious" threat. Put up next to something like Mega Mag, Genesect really isn't as disruptive, I just think it's incredibly incredibly incredibly easy to slap onto a team and do the bare minimum with, and it'll always come out as a key member because of how much fucking damage it does, the speed control (esp with scarf lmfao), etc., there's rarely a bad position to be in as the Genesect user because of how much it's doing just by clicking U-Turn or one of its other three moves.

 

[Bobnotdog]

I've been loving ice scales crab in za ou because it just never dies (unless your mag)

also do we get the reference
https://pokepast.es/9cd42d9d2c6ef653

 

[Zyro Zetta]

since you guys have implemented mega raichu x's hidden ability sword of justice shows exact same thing upon using sacred sword so will you guys impliment that as well?.

 

[Ostenberg]

I've been loving ice scales crab in za ou because it just never dies (unless your mag)

also do we get the reference
https://pokepast.es/9cd42d9d2c6ef653

really solid team but I would replace either thunder punch/ice punch with superpower on Melmetal to take care of Mega Heatran.

 

[MC Squared]

since you guys have implemented mega raichu x's hidden ability sword of justice shows exact same thing upon using sacred sword so will you guys impliment that as well?.

Wait the Swords of Justice one is true? Is it an Attack boost as well or does anything else gets boosted?

 

[Just a Penguin]

Thanks to emillight, Meteordash, Kennedy, Eli, and Sectonia for letting me bounce ideas off of them while writing/coding this!

Current Ability Assignments

Clefable-Mega: Serene Grace
Victreebel-Mega: Triage
Raichu-Mega-X: Levitate
Raichu-Mega-Y: Transistor
Starmie-Mega: Pure Power, -40 Atk
Dragonite-Mega: Soul-Heart
Meganium-Mega: Flower Veil
Feraligatr-Mega: Dragon's Maw
Ampharos-Mega: Fluffy
Absol-Mega-Z: Technician
Chimecho-Mega: Levitate
Skarmory-Mega: Tough Claws
Staraptor-Mega: Tough Claws
Gallade-Mega: Sharpness
Froslass-Mega: Snow Warning
Garchomp-Mega-Z: Rough Skin
Lucario-Mega-Z: Mind's Eye
Heatran-Mega: Earth Eater
Darkrai-Mega: Dark Aura
Emboar-Mega: Supreme Overlord
Excadrill-Mega: Mold Breaker
Golurk-Mega: Adaptability
Audino-Mega: Regenerator
Scolipede-Mega: Tinted Lens
Scrafty-Mega: Shed Skin
Eelektross-Mega: Hadron Engine
Chandelure-Mega: Magic Guard
Chesnaught-Mega: Bulletproof
Delphox-Mega: Levitate
Greninja-Mega: Protean
Meowstic-Mega: Psychic Surge
Pyroar-Mega: Drought
Dragalge-Mega: Regenerator
Floette-Mega: Regenerator
Malamar-Mega: Contrary
Barbaracle-Mega: Tough Claws
Hawlucha-Mega: Stamina
Zygarde-Mega: Aura Break
Crabominable-Mega: Ice Scales
Golisopod-Mega: Regenerator
Drampa-Mega: Drizzle
Magearna-Mega: Soul-Heart
Zeraora-Mega: Volt Absorb
Falinks-Mega: Dauntless Shield
Scovillain-Mega: Contrary
Glimmora-Mega: Rocky Payload
Baxcalibur-Mega: Thermal Exchange

I propose to give M-Floette Fairy Aura. I'm not saying that Regenerator is a bad ability, it helps with LOR recoil, but Floette has 0 pivoting moves, so for making use of her ability u must have atleast 2 pivots in ur team. Instead, with Fairy Aura, a single Calm Mind counts as two for fairy moves, and that's pretty helpful for some low-power moves like DKiss.
And, if darkrai gets Dark Aura with even higher offenses, I can't see why Floette shouldn't.

 

[Cuddly]

since you guys have implemented mega raichu x's hidden ability sword of justice shows exact same thing upon using sacred sword so will you guys impliment that as well?.

Terrakion escaping RU with those buff.
But seriously, it'd be pretty strong with gaining +1 from spamming Sacred Sword. It'd definitely be enough to reinvigorate its viability like Ice Beam for Keldeo did. Especially now that Heavy Slam lets it 2HKO Clefable as well.
252 Atk Terrakion Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 228-270 (57.8 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Terrakion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 154-182 (39 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Now if only all three also got their respective Future Paradox signature moves. Would really appreciate 100% accurate physical rock move too.

 

[yuga yotta]

Anyone with good Zeraora team?

 

[Bobnotdog]

When do the stats for this metagame come out?

 

[yuga yotta]

When do the stats for this metagame come out?

What do you mean dude?

 

[June Heat]

Any one else feeling Pre-disappointment for when Champions/Gen10 come out, and these new Megas aren't gonna be nearly as good as this Pet Mod? I get, and appreciate wanting to try and make all the Megas viable, but let's be real most of them are gonna be cheeks. Kinda wish instead of insane abilities the new Mega were given more realistic abilities. That my hot take for today.

Ban Genesect!

 

[yuga yotta]

Any one else feeling Pre-disappointment for when Champions/Gen10 come out, and these new Megas aren't gonna be nearly as good as this Pet Mod? I get, and appreciate wanting to try and make all the Megas viable, but let's be real most of them are gonna be cheeks. Kinda wish instead of insane abilities the new Mega were given more realistic abilities. That my hot take for today.

Ban Genesect!

I think some might be better some might be worse, I just hope Heatran with earth eater isn't real, I get nightmares about it now but yeah Mega Raichu X would be worse since what we had implemented has his hidden ability will be his main ability and he won't have any other ability so yeah

 

[yuga yotta]

I

I think some might be better some might be worse, I just hope Heatran with earth eater isn't real, I get nightmares about it now but yeah Mega Raichu X would be worse since what we had implemented has his hidden ability will be his main ability and he won't have any other ability so yeah

I just really hope as soon as they release in champions, smogon make them legal for national dex, I seriously don't think megas will be in gen 10 and I don't want to wait till gen 10 either so yeah

 

[Cuddly]

Any one else feeling Pre-disappointment for when Champions/Gen10 come out, and these new Megas aren't gonna be nearly as good as this Pet Mod? I get, and appreciate wanting to try and make all the Megas viable, but let's be real most of them are gonna be cheeks. Kinda wish instead of insane abilities the new Mega were given more realistic abilities. That my hot take for today.

Ban Genesect!

I feel like most Megas are going to get better in Champions because of abilities and lack of new abilities in the Metagame.
Like keep in mind, the Z(eraora) Megas all got lack-luster abilities, and even Garchomp got Neuro Force replaced by Rough Skin, and Zeraora got Iron Fist replaced by Volt Absorb.
Some Megas would suffer by getting more realistic abilities like Eelektross and Victreebel only being good now because they got abilities they definitely won't get.
Mega Scovillain will go straight to AG with it getting Moody and btfo everyone hating it. Trust.

 

[Ostenberg]

Any one else feeling Pre-disappointment for when Champions/Gen10 come out, and these new Megas aren't gonna be nearly as good as this Pet Mod? I get, and appreciate wanting to try and make all the Megas viable, but let's be real most of them are gonna be cheeks. Kinda wish instead of insane abilities the new Mega were given more realistic abilities. That my hot take for today.

Ban Genesect!

I will be on a manhunt if my boy M-Golurk doesn't get adaptability or an ability on par with it.