OM FRLG OU (Sand Veil Banned)

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FRLG (FireRed/LeafGreen) OU​

FRLG OU is an other metagame format where only mons, moves, and items that are obtainable in FireRed/LeafGreen are usable. See the resources for the missing mons and moves. Uses the [Gen 3] OU ruleset, otherwise (update: SpeedPass, Soundproof, and Baton Pass + Spider Web are currently unbanned as of 3/31, and Sand Veil is banned as of 4/5). Also of note is the Roaming Pokemon IV Glitch, which means Suicune, Raikou, and Entei are all significantly worse.

Banned Mons:
  • Mewtwo​
  • Wobbuffet​
  • Lugia​
  • Ho-Oh​
  • Wynaut​
  • Deoxys​
  • Deoxys-Speed​

Missing Items:
  • Choice Band​
  • Salac Berry​
  • Liechi Bery​
  • Petaya Berry​
  • White Herb​
  • Bright Powder​
  • Light Ball​
  • Scope Lens​
  • Shell Bell​
  • Figy Berry​
  • Wiki Berry​
  • Mago Berry​
  • Aguav Berry​
  • Ganlon Berry​
  • Apicot Berry​
  • Lansat Berry​
  • Starf Berry​
  • Mental Herb​

Threats:

:rs/tyranitar::rs/skarmory::rs/blissey::rs/starmie::rs/snorlax::rs/magneton::rs/zapdos::rs/charizard::rs/gyarados::rs/dragonite::rs/heracross::rs/machamp::rs/donphan::rs/steelix::rs/gengar::rs/scizor::rs/jolteon::rs/alakazam::rs/porygon2::rs/cloyster::rs/vaporeon::rs/tauros::rs/marowak::rs/kingdra::rs/rhydon::rs/venusaur::rs/suicune::rs/quagsire::rs/golduck::rs/ninetales::rs/vileplume::rs/electabuzz: and perhaps some other UU and below Pokemon

Sample Teams:
Mag PhysOff (Yak Attack)
Mag SDPass (Yak Attack)
Mag AgiliPass (Yak Attack)
TSS (grandiosearachnid)
JoltLax (grandiosearachnid)
Ninetales + RestLax (grandiosearachnid)
Jynx Spikeless HO (grandiosearachnid)
Curse Quag Spike Stall (Joaf)
More coming soon

Resources:
Unobtainable Pokemon
Altering Cave Unobtainable Pokemon
Important Learnset Removals (also see this post for FRLG event move removals and this spreadsheet for a complete list)
Discussion Thread
Switch Re-Release Thread
Discord
 
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"FRLG OU is a lower tier format where only mons..."
Just a quick correction: this format is not a lower tier format. Its not related to the ADV tiers, its just a different OU metagame, as its said on the threads title.
Edit: where is aero on threats list?
 
mielke said:
"FRLG OU is a lower tier format where only mons..."
Just a quick correction: this format is not a lower tier format. Its not related to the ADV tiers, its just a different OU metagame, as its said on the threads title.
Edit: where is aero on threats list?
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Lack of Choice Band and Liechi Berry honestly makes me skeptical of Aero's worth, but I could be wrong.
 
FrankMarley said:
Lack of Choice Band and Liechi Berry honestly makes me skeptical of Aero's worth, but I could be wrong.
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Also Dugtrio crying in the corner bc it can't reliably 1 shot Tyranitar with Banded Earthquake, base 80 even with Adamant hits like a weenie.

Also, no Swampert & Metagross, but there's Magneton to trap Skarmory?! Dios Mio, DD Tar's gonna be the stupidest thing ever.
 
Jhall99 said:
Also Dugtrio crying in the corner bc it can't reliably 1 shot Tyranitar with Banded Earthquake, base 80 even with Adamant hits like a weenie.

Also, no Swampert & Metagross, but there's Magneton to trap Skarmory?! Dios Mio, DD Tar's gonna be the stupidest thing ever.
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Dugtrio cannot ohko ttar with cb either

Id argue that ttar with focus punch+special attacks looks stronger, but dug without Band and no salamence makes fighters much better....
 
Yak Attack said:
Posted with permission by goldmason and Joaf
438509414_PPorgFIRERED_061.png.95dcb2b173e2583320bc69914f0aa58a.png

FRLG (FireRed/LeafGreen) OU​

FRLG OU is an other metagame format where only mons, moves, and items that are obtainable in FireRed/LeafGreen are usable. See the resources for the missing mons and moves. Uses the [Gen 3] OU ruleset, otherwise. Also of note is the Roaming Pokemon IV Glitch, which means Suicune, Raikou, and Entei are all significantly worse.

Banned Mons:
  • Mewtwo​
  • Wobbuffet​
  • Lugia​
  • Ho-Oh​
  • Wynaut​
  • Deoxys-Attack​
  • Deoxys-Defense​

Missing Items:
  • Choice Band​
  • Salac Berry​
  • Liechi Bery​
  • Petaya Berry​
  • White Herb​
  • Bright Powder​
  • Light Ball​
  • Scope Lens​
  • Shell Bell​
  • Figy Berry​
  • Wiki Berry​
  • Mago Berry​
  • Aguav Berry​
  • Ganlon Berry​
  • Apicot Berry​
  • Lansat Berry​
  • Starf Berry​
  • Mental Herb​

Threats:

:rs/tyranitar::rs/skarmory::rs/blissey::rs/snorlax::rs/zapdos::rs/starmie::rs/magneton::rs/charizard::rs/gyarados::rs/dragonite::rs/heracross::rs/machamp::rs/donphan::rs/steelix::rs/gengar::rs/jolteon::rs/alakazam::rs/porygon2::rs/cloyster::rs/vaporeon::rs/tauros::rs/marowak::rs/kingdra::rs/rhydon: and perhaps some UU and below Pokemon

Resources:
Unobtainable Pokemon
Altering Cave Unobtainable Pokemon
Important Move Incompatibilities & Exclusions
Discussion Thread
Switch Re-Release Thread
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Isnt suicune raikou entei allowed?
 
Yak Attack said:
Posted with permission by goldmason and Joaf
438509414_PPorgFIRERED_061.png.95dcb2b173e2583320bc69914f0aa58a.png

FRLG (FireRed/LeafGreen) OU​

FRLG OU is an other metagame format where only mons, moves, and items that are obtainable in FireRed/LeafGreen are usable. See the resources for the missing mons and moves. Uses the [Gen 3] OU ruleset, otherwise. Also of note is the Roaming Pokemon IV Glitch, which means Suicune, Raikou, and Entei are all significantly worse.

Banned Mons:
  • Mewtwo​
  • Wobbuffet​
  • Lugia​
  • Ho-Oh​
  • Wynaut​
  • Deoxys-Attack​
  • Deoxys-Defense​

Missing Items:
  • Choice Band​
  • Salac Berry​
  • Liechi Bery​
  • Petaya Berry​
  • White Herb​
  • Bright Powder​
  • Light Ball​
  • Scope Lens​
  • Shell Bell​
  • Figy Berry​
  • Wiki Berry​
  • Mago Berry​
  • Aguav Berry​
  • Ganlon Berry​
  • Apicot Berry​
  • Lansat Berry​
  • Starf Berry​
  • Mental Herb​

Threats:

:rs/tyranitar::rs/skarmory::rs/blissey::rs/snorlax::rs/zapdos::rs/starmie::rs/magneton::rs/charizard::rs/gyarados::rs/dragonite::rs/heracross::rs/machamp::rs/donphan::rs/steelix::rs/gengar::rs/jolteon::rs/alakazam::rs/porygon2::rs/cloyster::rs/vaporeon::rs/tauros::rs/marowak::rs/kingdra::rs/rhydon: and perhaps some UU and below Pokemon

Resources:
Unobtainable Pokemon
Altering Cave Unobtainable Pokemon
Important Move Incompatibilities & Exclusions
Discussion Thread
Switch Re-Release Thread
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Hey, just wanted to pop in and say I remember you asking about what you needed to do to make this idea a reality in the ADV simple questions format. Really awesome to see you put so much work into this and I hope it goes well!
 
Jhall99 said:
Donphan is one of the best mons to stonewall Tyranitar, but without Celebi & Claydol will Gengar be a massive pest, as if it weren’t a pest in ADV OU already lol.
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Keep in mind Gengar loses the punches and will-o-wisp so I think it'll even out? It can still tbolt/giga drain/hp ice/psychic/taunt/explosion/perish trap.
 
In case anyone is curious how bad they have it, these would be the base stats of the legendary beasts with 31/7/0/0/0/0 (add +0.5 to each base stat for defense, spatk, spdefense and speed)

Suicune is kinda salvageable. HP didn't change, and is bulkier than 6IVs Vaporeon in the physical side even with the bad IVs, and Vaporeon can't calm mind. Worse but usable, and without Swampert, god knows we need bulky waters.
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Compared to 6IVs Jolteon, Raikou is worse in every stat (except HP). I doubt Calm Mind will save it considering it wasn't OU before the nerfs
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Entei... pobre cosita fea...
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Yak Attack said:
Whether or not Sand Veil/SpeedPass should be banned is a legit question, isn't it? Only problematic mons would be Sandslash and Scizor imo
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I doubt Sandslash will be useful for much outside of cheesing via sand veil, so that's probably fine to axe.
Speedpass is a little more uncertain, but Jolteon and Scizor are both users, and seem decent. Not 100% convinced but I could see it being a problem.
 
Can we start with Freeze + Sleep Clause and go from there? I'd like to keep Soundproof, as Mr. Mime deserves to commit warcrimes is the only mon with CM pass.
 
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