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This is my understanding. Think of it like Mold Breaker + Utility Umbrella. Mega Sol only activates when both effects would be in play at the same time: you are the attacker and the Utility Umbrella affects the attacker.
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Poltergeist works on Mega Stones
Grav Apple buffed 80BP > 90 BP (120 > 135 in Gravity)
Crabhammer buffed 90% > 95% accuracy.
Proten can be retriggered after Mega Evolution.
Other changes I've seen brought up but no verifiable screenshots exists yet:
Trop Kick buffed 70BP > 85BP
Grav Apple buffed 80BP > 90 BP (120 > 135 in Gravity)
Crabhammer buffed 90% > 95% accuracy.
Proten can be retriggered after Mega Evolution.
Other changes I've seen brought up but no verifiable screenshots exists yet:
Trop Kick buffed 70BP > 85BP
Adding to this
-Does Mega Sol ignore Sand and Snow boosts to Def and SpD respectfully?
-Do Fire moves get the x1.5 boost if Sun is up?
Grassy Terrain now heals by 1/16 of max HP per turn over 1/8
Edit: This is the same behavior as in past gens, so NVM, lol.
Moves aren't inherently wiped upon transfering stuff from Home to Champions, do note that dexit'd ones are seemingly still affected by the PP changes.
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When the move priority is recalculated, does it take into account Prankster, Gale Wings or Triage?
Changing a Pokemon's ability in Pokemon Champions *will not* change it's ability in other games. Just sent a Gen 2 Heracross to Champions and changed Moxie to Guts. Sent it back to home. The Heracross has Moxie again.
If they let you move over the ability change, this means Gen 8 would have had access to No Guard Fissure Machamp, but nope :(
If they let you move over the ability change, this means Gen 8 would have had access to No Guard Fissure Machamp, but nope :(
This question seems to have been buried.
I also have some questions pertaining to stat changes. Champions merge multiple stats into a single message (for example: "The opposing Floette's Sp. Atk and Sp. Def rose!"). How do things display visually and text-wise for spread stat moves?
1. Two valid targets
2. One valid target, the other is blocked by an ability
3. Both targets block the move by an ability
4. Tickle against Defiant (can be a single battle). If Tickle isn't in the game, something else such as Memento would do.
5. Assuming Memento is in the game (which I haven't confirmed), how does it interact against a Competitive foe with -5 Sp. Atk?
I forgot this one: it seems like Megas don't revert after fainting. If you use Revival Blessing, does your Pokémon stay in its Mega forme?
Still unsure about all the specifics of Mega Sol. Like, were all the ones formerly listed here on Bulbapedia true? Can freezing moves not freeze if used by something with it? Do Fire and Water moves get the usual weather modifiers when used by something with it? Can it status something with Leaf Guard? I unfortunately don't have two Switches to test out all the stuff myself...
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From aim 's stream: Spicy Spray was supposed to activate on Arcanine, but instead an immunity message appeared. Do Static and Flame Body also trigger this immunity message? Has this ever happened in previous games? This could be an information leak that reveals a Pokémon's ability.
Currently, PS only sends immunity messages for moves. This could also activate with offensive abilities like Poison Touch (maybe?).
Leech Seeds description states that it saps 1/16 but it still saps 1/8 as shown by the tweet below.
Salt Cures description states that it was nerfed to 1/16 and 1/8th to non Steel and Water targets respectively and this is true. Tested the interaction manually myself in Champions with ThatOneApple. Incineroar healed and took the same amount of chip from Leftovers and Salt Cure respectively and Salt Cure on Kingambit dealt 12% chip.
Salt Cures description states that it was nerfed to 1/16 and 1/8th to non Steel and Water targets respectively and this is true. Tested the interaction manually myself in Champions with ThatOneApple. Incineroar healed and took the same amount of chip from Leftovers and Salt Cure respectively and Salt Cure on Kingambit dealt 12% chip.
Mega Sol's Weather Ball in rain is Fire-type (it was showing as Water-type before Mega Evolution). There is no Utility Umbrella in the game, so there's no point in asking about Mega Sol + Utility Umbrella mechanics :((
Honestly, that was stated before release, and keeps getting repeated when getting stuff from Home. It was quite clear it was going that way.
"It's extremely effective on <Pokemon>!"
It works normally. If you Parting Shot into Defiant, it will separate the boosts' messages as in previous games, activating twice.
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Didn't see anyone respond to this part, but this isn't true. I don't remember where I saw the clip of this being proved wrong (maybe from dawob, feel like that'd be something he'd test first), but if someone can provide clip evidence that'd be greatly appreciated
Mechanic change I found: when Rough Skin KOes a pokemon that used Knock Off the Rough Skin user’s item is removed.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9anythinggoes-2578721329-irjg3h7pf1cq6asw1oy4q6nwbcjgadspw
Double checked the old mechanic here. The Garchomp is also Scarf just like in the other example.
This may also apply to Rapid Spin but that needs to be tested.
Edit: may also apply to ceaseless edge and stone axe
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9anythinggoes-2578721329-irjg3h7pf1cq6asw1oy4q6nwbcjgadspw
Double checked the old mechanic here. The Garchomp is also Scarf just like in the other example.
This may also apply to Rapid Spin but that needs to be tested.
Edit: may also apply to ceaseless edge and stone axe
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