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Pokémon Movepool Oddities & Explanations
- Thread starter Kurona
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Quaquaval always learned Misty Terrain, it got it via TM in SV.
Most Terrain moves are generally restricted to their respective type, so Quaquaval learning Misty Terrain is notable.
The only other specifically odd terrain move learners I can think of are Chansey/Blissey and... Electric Terrain? They can also learn Wild Charge, though that's kind of par for the course with their Gen 1 Normal TM learnsets.
The only other specifically odd terrain move learners I can think of are Chansey/Blissey and... Electric Terrain? They can also learn Wild Charge, though that's kind of par for the course with their Gen 1 Normal TM learnsets.
For Quaquaval maybe they thought the Misty terrain went with its festival(e) aesthetic.
Chansey getting Electric Terrain you could maybe squint and stretch into being associated with Pokemon Centers. Like brings to mind electrical resuscitation or defibs or just like, using electrical stimulous? I'd say preventing sleep would be important but kinda goes against using anesthetic....
And now that I'm writing through all those stretches you'd think if it was a medical component then Audino would get it.
This got me curious so looking at the other two. Grassy terrain goes to the Florges line (fair, they really should be grass/fairy), Comfey (also fair) and..oh Enamorus is a fun one. Since its whole thing is spring fertility; honestly Landorus probably should've gotten since his whole thing is a harvest god but I guess it does go against the ground shtick (& now he's more the "autumn harvest" rather than the more general "fertile soil + strong harvest" combo he had before)
Psychic terrain gets no fun flavorful contributions. Lame!
Chansey getting Electric Terrain you could maybe squint and stretch into being associated with Pokemon Centers. Like brings to mind electrical resuscitation or defibs or just like, using electrical stimulous? I'd say preventing sleep would be important but kinda goes against using anesthetic....
And now that I'm writing through all those stretches you'd think if it was a medical component then Audino would get it.
This got me curious so looking at the other two. Grassy terrain goes to the Florges line (fair, they really should be grass/fairy), Comfey (also fair) and..oh Enamorus is a fun one. Since its whole thing is spring fertility; honestly Landorus probably should've gotten since his whole thing is a harvest god but I guess it does go against the ground shtick (& now he's more the "autumn harvest" rather than the more general "fertile soil + strong harvest" combo he had before)
Psychic terrain gets no fun flavorful contributions. Lame!
Maybe if Ferrothorn returns in Champions it could get that move 0.0
I really find it weird that Volcarona cannot learn Scorching Sands... it's a moth that was found in a desert castle.
It's definitely just a balance contrivance. Volcarona's already extremely strong without an easy way to beat Heatran.
Also the only Fire types that get Scorching Sands are ones that are either also Rock, Ground, or Steel types and/or learn/learned at least one of Sand Attack, Sand Tomb, or Sandstorm or at least one other Ground move.
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Raijin in Shinto mythology is infamous for stealing belly buttons from poor schmucks...
Thundurus does not learn Thief by level up.
Thundurus does not learn Thief by level up.
In Legends: Z-A, Palossand can learn the TM for Fake Out.
That was apparently a sentence.
That was apparently a sentence.
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Makes sense to me, it's a move based around a sudden shocking surprise and it's a sand castle that lurks in the sand and surprises you.
Also it has big ramparts for hands and I think that fits the sumo flavor of the move pretty well like yeah i think popping up in front of me and clapping those things in front of my face would get me to flinch, causing me to skip my action that turn.
Kyogre and Groudon can learn Helping Hand.
There isn't really an oddity or explanation here since I don't think there's any rhyme or reason as to why the move is distributed the way it is. I just find the idea of forgoing a turn on either of Kyogre or Groudon – two Legendaries well known for having access to powerful spread moves – to boost their Doubles partner to be infinitely funny.
There isn't really an oddity or explanation here since I don't think there's any rhyme or reason as to why the move is distributed the way it is. I just find the idea of forgoing a turn on either of Kyogre or Groudon – two Legendaries well known for having access to powerful spread moves – to boost their Doubles partner to be infinitely funny.
tbh Tornadus should get it too even if Fuijin doesn't have the same connection just because it fits the vibe of both Pokémon.
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Gourgeist's Y Pokédex Entry: "It enwraps its prey in its hairlike arms. It sings joyfully as it observes the suffering of its prey."
Why can't it learn Perish Song?!
Why can't it learn Perish Song?!
Cause its the the "enwrapping of its prey with its hairlike arms" that's causing them to faint, the singing is just a bonus.
BTW, Gourgeist doesn't learn Wrap or Bind (or any other Trapping Moves like Mean Look).
The closest it gets to using its hairlike arms like this is Power Whip which it doesn't get until Sword & Shield (it doesn't even learn Vine Whip).
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It gets mentions of singing several times in its dex entries but also doesn't even learn Sing. Feel like that'd be a cute egg move at least.
There are 7 variants of Swift. Swift, Feint Attack, Shadow Punch, Magnet Bomb, Shockwave, Magical Leaf, Arial Ace. Why, when Dexit happened, did they remove specifically Feint Attack and Magnet Bomb but leave the others? And then why bring back Magnet Bomb in the ZA DLC, but as a completely different move instead of a Swift clone?
GF's Thoughts During Dexit: Hm, do we need all these Swift variants? Let's see, Swift, Shockwave, Magical Leaf, and Aerial Ace are good mid-fillers before getting to the stronger Moves (some also have niches of their own). Shadow Punch is one of the few Physical Ghost-type Moves we have, taking that away would essentially leave Dusknoir and Golurk without that STAB, so keep that. Honestly, do Dark-type really need Feint Attack? They have so many other tricky Moves, especially Sucker Punch, that a non-miss Move feels redundant. And Magnet Bomb, psh, I think the Special focused Magnemite family are gonna be fine without their Physical Move (and by the time you get Probopass it should be nearing to getting Iron Head).
GF's Thoughts During ZA: You know, we don't really have a good Physical Steel-type Move above 80 Power (that isn't an easily spreadable Signature Move). Before making one, is there any old Steel-type Moves we're not using we could slap 95 Power too? Oh, Magnet Bomb, that sounds generic enough to be spread around to the Physical Steel-types. What's that, it's supposed a Swift clone?... Who cares? Especially since giving it 95 Power is going to make it more widely used than it ever was as a Swift Clone. If we don't like it we can switch it back for the core games.
Feint Attack being cut from existence starting from SwSh is a bit funny in the grand scheme of things considering both SwSh and SV in sequence introduced what are essentially stronger versions of Feint Attack mechanically but exclusive to certain Pokemon. SwSh had False Surrender which is Grimmsnarl's signature move, and SV had Kowtow Cleave which is Kingambit's signature move.
I don't know if that had anything to do with it but the combination is interesting.
I don't know if that had anything to do with it but the combination is interesting.
