Social Neurodiversity

[fortunate sun]

Isn't this literally portraying your problems and enemies as the soy wojak?

Ok this is hilarious and honestly, yeah tbh

it works because there is no discussion to be had with many intrusive thoughts. You arent dismissing people, you're dismissing brain goblins lol

while some anxieties should actually be looked into and discussed, a majority of intrusive thoughts for me are just "haha what if you said x to be a dick" or "what if you just committed X crime you really don't have a reason to do or want to" which is peak chudjak behavior tbh and not worth engaging with. Cope cry and mald, brain goblins

 

[NaboGaming]

intrusive thoughts are brutal. I actually got some great advice from a girl in my last writing class who wrote about her experiences with them

her advice was to take all of the unwanted thoughts and picture a specific caricature of a person you dont respect saying them.

example: "i feel like the car is gonna swerve off the road and kill me". -> Shut up, Craig, it probably won't. What do you know about automobiles when you literally can't tie your shoes and smell funny.

it's a bit silly, but i've found it can help even with more disturbing and concerning ones.

Regardless, just remember actions define a person and not thoughts. Have a great day

that's adorable and I will try it next time

 

[BestDatrix]

Isn't this literally portraying your problems and enemies as the soy wojak?

 

[ant4456]

I am autistic and maybe it's not bc of autism and something else, but it just feels like 90% of conversations are dragged out or are misunderstood because of some weird social conventions that shouldn't exist making everything obtuse.

I don't really have that much productive to say, kinda just upset with how it feels frustrating to talk to people at times.

 

[Cancel cult]

i am autistic and have adhd, but i dont really feel like i belong here. i have never had any pride in my autism. this is not me saying i am ashamed, merely that i dont care for a sence of belonging based on a part of me. however, i will still watch this thread so i can support anyone who needs help in their confusing journey through life.

 

[Bakugames]

how do you guys deal with trying to get over the sensory overload that some food or clothes etc can give. I'm trying to be a grown woman and eat my veggies but stuff like lettuce makes me want to die.

 

[Cancel cult]

how do you guys deal with trying to get over the sensory overload that some food or clothes etc can give. I'm trying to be a grown woman and eat my veggies but stuff like lettuce makes me want to die.

give up, eat junk food, and deal with the consequences.

 

[Brammi]

So like, do I just go to a GP and say hey I think I might be a bit spicy because I'm apparently weird? Like how do you even find out? I'm now a very adult adult and it's becoming increasingly apparent that things I though were an everyone experience are only a me and my spicy friends experience.

 

[CoralReaper707]

intrusive thoughts are brutal. I actually got some great advice from a girl in my last writing class who wrote about her experiences with them

her advice was to take all of the unwanted thoughts and picture a specific caricature of a person you dont respect saying them.

example: "i feel like the car is gonna swerve off the road and kill me". -> Shut up, Craig, it probably won't. What do you know about automobiles when you literally can't tie your shoes and smell funny.

it's a bit silly, but i've found it can help even with more disturbing and concerning ones.

Regardless, just remember actions define a person and not thoughts. Have a great day

Oh intrusive thoughts are very annoying. I get them often out of nowhere when I try to sleep, and trust me. They are not great.

 

[Cancel cult]

So like, do I just go to a GP and say hey I think I might be a bit spicy because I'm apparently weird? Like how do you even find out? I'm now a very adult adult and it's becoming increasingly apparent that things I though were an everyone experience are only a me and my spicy friends experience.

go to a medical professional and take a test. alternatively, if you don't feel like spending a bajilion dollars, you can take an online test, though don't rely on them to tell you the full truth.

 

[Eowyn]

how do you guys deal with trying to get over the sensory overload that some food or clothes etc can give. I'm trying to be a grown woman and eat my veggies but stuff like lettuce makes me want to die.

The nice thing is that there are many different kinds of vegetables and many ways to cook or prepare them, so you can hopefully find a good texture. And even some snacks with vegetables in them like Harvest Snaps that taste pretty good. Black bean veggie burgers. Try different things and just notice what you like.

 

[Eowyn]

So like, do I just go to a GP and say hey I think I might be a bit spicy because I'm apparently weird? Like how do you even find out? I'm now a very adult adult and it's becoming increasingly apparent that things I though were an everyone experience are only a me and my spicy friends experience.

There are different kinds of tests. If you know what you want, you can search that and type "near me" or check your insurance website for providers.
I got the neuropsychological evaluation as it's more comprehensive, and I thankfully had good insurance at the time.

 

[Eowyn]

Kind of a weird question, but hoping this is a safe space. What do you do when you feel a sensory issue related to another person that you care about? Like holding hands with someone who has fairly larger hands (or dry hands even lol), and my mind gets stuck on the fact that my hand doesn't fit right in theirs. Like the spacing between the fingers feels off. Should I just ask to hold hands in a different way? Any other ideas or similar experience?
Mentioning it feels a little weird since I'm not sure I understand it myself at the moment.

 

[bdt2002]

The nice thing is that there are many different kinds of vegetables and many ways to cook or prepare them, so you can hopefully find a good texture. And even some snacks with vegetables in them like Harvest Snaps that taste pretty good. Black bean veggie burgers. Try different things and just notice what you like.

There are different kinds of tests. If you know what you want, you can search that and type "near me" or check your insurance website for providers.
I got the neuropsychological evaluation as it's more comprehensive, and I thankfully had good insurance at the time.

Kind of a weird question, but hoping this is a safe space. What do you do when you feel a sensory issue related to another person that you care about? Like holding hands with someone who has fairly larger hands (or dry hands even lol), and my mind gets stuck on the fact that my hand doesn't fit right in theirs. Like the spacing between the fingers feels off. Should I just ask to hold hands in a different way? Any other ideas or similar experience?
Mentioning it feels a little weird since I'm not sure I understand it myself at the moment.

I don't have anything against these posts, but realistically speaking these could probably be merged into one post with different sections. You seem to be new here from what I can tell (in that case, welcome!), so I'm not going to be too too strict about this. It's more of a "for future reference" thing.

As for your actual question: I think it largely depends on the situation, and who the other person/people is (a relative, significant other, coworker, etc.) but your sensory needs often won't line up with those of other people. Something comfortable for someone else might not be for you, but that's okay. You can learn a lot about the person or people around you by the communication that does (or doesn't) take place. In a relationship, for example, if your significant other isn't aware of or is ignoring your sensory needs, this sounds like something both parties could discuss in private or in some kind of relationship therapy/counseling.

 

[ac2127]

Hi. I was not diagnosed until recently, at 27. My doctors suspected I may be on the spectrum due to my social & communication issues, stimming behavior that I always hid from others, and most importantly that I began suffering seizures at 20 for an unknown reason. Apparently epilepsy and ASD are linked, and rates of epilepsy amongst people on the spectrum are high. It also made a lot of my behaviors and thoughts make sense. It's kind of odd, though, because I wasn't diagnosed I internalized a lot of masking behaviors, and don't know how to or if to express my "true" self, whatever that actually means. I have always had very deep fixations, mainly on, in this order, history, Pokémon, football (soccer) and astronomy. I say they're fixations as opposed to my other interests, as they are the things my mind has always dwelled on for most of my life. I also love to write and create maps.

I deleted like 2 paragraphs of unnecessary detail about my interests, as a writer I have to self-edit, because I enjoy writing so much and am verbose more generally I'll write in just way too much detail.

 

[SkyOfSouls]

Hey, I have high-end autism, mild OCD and crippling ADHD (resulting in me posting on Smogon instead of revising for June exams) and the new Jaiden video is the funniest and most relatable video that has bestowed me in recent memory :

Almost everything she mentions in this video is me in a nutshell (except my parents lessened the devotion to keeping me afloat mid-high school, not cool ).

 

[polyphant]

Hello, this is my first post on smogon :D (apart from entering a tournament).

I stumbled upon this thread and wanted to see if anyone had any advice regarding ADHD. I've been recently diagnosed and and I have the option of whether to start going through the process for medication or not, and I'm not sure whether to go through with it or not. I've worked through the reasoning for both sides which I'll lay out below and if anyone has any relevant experience or anything to add it would be greatly appreciated :).

Against:
Given that ADHD is a part of me, it's not some external force which I can stop, I should therefore take responsibility for whatever effects it causes. I should obviously be responsible for all the school work I've found myself unable to do, or any tasks that I find harder to do than most. I shouldn't rely on some external substance to bring me up to a level that I would prefer - everyone has their own challenges which makes things harder for them which they work through for themselves, with needing medication. Why would ADHD be any different - especially given that it's something that people can and do survive and work through without necessarily needing medication (people in my family being examples).
It would basically feel like I'm cheating my way through a process which would always be better done manually, rather than using medication. On a macro scale, it's a virtue to go through something difficult and come out the other side, whether that be going to the gym, going through therapy, commit to learning some skill, etc. It's character building (as cringe as that sounds) and the struggle produces a better person.

Another minor thing is that I hate the idea of being reliant on something external to me, but this is literally pretty much everything in life so this is just an emotional point.

For:
There's a huge amount of empirical evidence for ADHD people's lives being completely transformed through medication. It allows people to function and flourish to a point which they didn't even know was possible. It seems obvious that at some point the outcomes of more effectively doing everything that I would need to do completely outweighs any kind of bullshit 'character building' I would go through. If it would just improve my life in every way, it would surely be unreasonable to deliberately forego that.

I've gone back and forth along these lines with myself a whole bunch of times, and again I'd love any input!

(I also acknowledge this is likely a conversation to have with a professional, which I hope to do.)

 

[Cancel cult]

half the

Hello, this is my first post on smogon :D (apart from entering a tournament).

I stumbled upon this thread and wanted to see if anyone had any advice regarding ADHD. I've been recently diagnosed and and I have the option of whether to start going through the process for medication or not, and I'm not sure whether to go through with it or not. I've worked through the reasoning for both sides which I'll lay out below and if anyone has any relevant experience or anything to add it would be greatly appreciated :).

Against:
Given that ADHD is a part of me, it's not some external force which I can stop, I should therefore take responsibility for whatever effects it causes. I should obviously be responsible for all the school work I've found myself unable to do, or any tasks that I find harder to do than most. I shouldn't rely on some external substance to bring me up to a level that I would prefer - everyone has their own challenges which makes things harder for them which they work through for themselves, with needing medication. Why would ADHD be any different - especially given that it's something that people can and do survive and work through without necessarily needing medication (people in my family being examples).
It would basically feel like I'm cheating my way through a process which would always be better done manually, rather than using medication. On a macro scale, it's a virtue to go through something difficult and come out the other side, whether that be going to the gym, going through therapy, commit to learning some skill, etc. It's character building (as cringe as that sounds) and the struggle produces a better person.

Another minor thing is that I hate the idea of being reliant on something external to me, but this is literally pretty much everything in life so this is just an emotional point.

For:
There's a huge amount of empirical evidence for ADHD people's lives being completely transformed through medication. It allows people to function and flourish to a point which they didn't even know was possible. It seems obvious that at some point the outcomes of more effectively doing everything that I would need to do completely outweighs any kind of bullshit 'character building' I would go through. If it would just improve my life in every way, it would surely be unreasonable to deliberately forego that.

I've gone back and forth along these lines with myself a whole bunch of times, and again I'd love any input!

(I also acknowledge this is likely a conversation to have with a professional, which I hope to do.)

as someone with ADHD, I suggest medicine. I have no qualifications for saying this, but I still suggest it. Also, listening to instrumental music helps me focus, maybe you should try that.

 

[Tanny89k]

Hello, this is my first post on smogon :D (apart from entering a tournament).

I stumbled upon this thread and wanted to see if anyone had any advice regarding ADHD. I've been recently diagnosed and and I have the option of whether to start going through the process for medication or not, and I'm not sure whether to go through with it or not. I've worked through the reasoning for both sides which I'll lay out below and if anyone has any relevant experience or anything to add it would be greatly appreciated :).

Against:
Given that ADHD is a part of me, it's not some external force which I can stop, I should therefore take responsibility for whatever effects it causes. I should obviously be responsible for all the school work I've found myself unable to do, or any tasks that I find harder to do than most. I shouldn't rely on some external substance to bring me up to a level that I would prefer - everyone has their own challenges which makes things harder for them which they work through for themselves, with needing medication. Why would ADHD be any different - especially given that it's something that people can and do survive and work through without necessarily needing medication (people in my family being examples).
It would basically feel like I'm cheating my way through a process which would always be better done manually, rather than using medication. On a macro scale, it's a virtue to go through something difficult and come out the other side, whether that be going to the gym, going through therapy, commit to learning some skill, etc. It's character building (as cringe as that sounds) and the struggle produces a better person.

Another minor thing is that I hate the idea of being reliant on something external to me, but this is literally pretty much everything in life so this is just an emotional point.

For:
There's a huge amount of empirical evidence for ADHD people's lives being completely transformed through medication. It allows people to function and flourish to a point which they didn't even know was possible. It seems obvious that at some point the outcomes of more effectively doing everything that I would need to do completely outweighs any kind of bullshit 'character building' I would go through. If it would just improve my life in every way, it would surely be unreasonable to deliberately forego that.

I've gone back and forth along these lines with myself a whole bunch of times, and again I'd love any input!

(I also acknowledge this is likely a conversation to have with a professional, which I hope to do.)

Having done so myself ~2 years ago, I wholeheartedly recommend getting yourself started on medication. Forget the idea that forgoing it might build character; in my experience, pushing through without help builds nothing but resentment and self-loathing. In contrast, medication has done nothing but improve my quality of life drastically.

 

[Aqua Jet]

Hello, this is my first post on smogon :D (apart from entering a tournament).

I stumbled upon this thread and wanted to see if anyone had any advice regarding ADHD. I've been recently diagnosed and and I have the option of whether to start going through the process for medication or not, and I'm not sure whether to go through with it or not. I've worked through the reasoning for both sides which I'll lay out below and if anyone has any relevant experience or anything to add it would be greatly appreciated :).

Against:
Given that ADHD is a part of me, it's not some external force which I can stop, I should therefore take responsibility for whatever effects it causes. I should obviously be responsible for all the school work I've found myself unable to do, or any tasks that I find harder to do than most. I shouldn't rely on some external substance to bring me up to a level that I would prefer - everyone has their own challenges which makes things harder for them which they work through for themselves, with needing medication. Why would ADHD be any different - especially given that it's something that people can and do survive and work through without necessarily needing medication (people in my family being examples).
It would basically feel like I'm cheating my way through a process which would always be better done manually, rather than using medication. On a macro scale, it's a virtue to go through something difficult and come out the other side, whether that be going to the gym, going through therapy, commit to learning some skill, etc. It's character building (as cringe as that sounds) and the struggle produces a better person.

Another minor thing is that I hate the idea of being reliant on something external to me, but this is literally pretty much everything in life so this is just an emotional point.

For:
There's a huge amount of empirical evidence for ADHD people's lives being completely transformed through medication. It allows people to function and flourish to a point which they didn't even know was possible. It seems obvious that at some point the outcomes of more effectively doing everything that I would need to do completely outweighs any kind of bullshit 'character building' I would go through. If it would just improve my life in every way, it would surely be unreasonable to deliberately forego that.

I've gone back and forth along these lines with myself a whole bunch of times, and again I'd love any input!

(I also acknowledge this is likely a conversation to have with a professional, which I hope to do.)

When I first got diagnosed I took it, but last year I stopped taking it and I felt better. Based on my experience with it, think medication does help a lot, but you should keep in touch with your doctor because there may come a time when you might not need it, like there was for me. Or you may use it throughout your life, which is obviously fine too.