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  • ripped this team straight from you video "my first tornament game ever" but the teams pretty old and I'm wondering what changes I could make to this team so that it works better in the current metagame. I wanted to use is bc I love pawmot but I kinda suck a making it work.
    paste: https://pokepast.es/35c23a3baf02c1e0
    i know im not supposed to bug you till october, but ive been having sucsess with this team and would really appreciate feddback, wont bug you till october 30 promise https://pokepast.es/3b03edfa23acdf33
    ScizorDaGoat
    nat dex team
    ScizorDaGoat
    pretend super powe ris play rough
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Looks like a pretty decent webs team. You'll probably want to go Espeed over EQ on Dnite though, no-prio is rough in NatDex
    Hey Pinkacross! This is a team I made recently around Kyurem and Glowking with the intention of making overheat Iron Moth usable on a balance(ish) archetype. I'm not seeing too many issues on ladder, but some major ones Dgleam Iron Moth, will-o-wisp Pult, Wellspring and Darkrai HStack. I originally had an offensive Prim on the team instead of Ting-Lu but faced challenges with CM Raging Bolt and other special attackers that don't mind it switching in. I'd appreciate a rating out of 10 and some easily applicable changes so I can break past the 1500s, where I'm noticing opponents are actually making mid-ground plays which my low-risk playstyle doesn't appreciate. I'd also like your opinion on the Iron Moth set, since Pinkacord seems to have mixed opinions.
    Thanks! :D
    https://pokepast.es/3b3bb5ef97e23ef6
    Hey! Inspired by your video, I tired to make Mud-Slap Salazzle webs. The idea is that to have two Fire/Poison mons on the team, dealing with each other's problems. Salazzle can Nasty Plot, allowing her to deal more damage than fishing for a Fiery Dance boost, and can also hit Heatran with an attack (Mud-Slap) without teraing. Iron Moth has more bulk and coverage, being more versatile for when Salazzle breaks opposing mons. There is obviously type overrlap, but I wanted to see what you think. Great video!

    https://pokepast.es/fbaf240e4a959df8
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Is the Salazzle performing well?
    dunderguy
    dunderguy
    You definitely notice the power Salazzle has after a Nasty Plot, but theres times where Mud Slap does not secure kills after Teraing. I saw a calc where +2 Fire Blast did the same was +2 Tera Ground Mud Slap to Glowking, so thats a bummer. I’d say it could be replaced, but Nasty Plot Life Orb is genuinely good imo
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    I see. You may want to consider sub + mud slap with leftovers to take advantage of the accuracy drop
    I have this crazy idea to try.

    https://pokepast.es/eb3df73468d979fb

    Basically it's DD T-tar with some form of speed control with T-wave Pult Gloking and body slam Ting-Lu. My reasoning was to use T-wave for pokemon like Zama, Gambit, Dnite and maybe I-Val, however I've two big issues:
    - Choice scarf Gholdengo
    - Bulky ground / tera ground mons
    After testing with some friends I had a hard time to counter it.

    These are my ideas to maybe improve the team
    - Ceruledge can be swapped with T-Tar since I feel like he can do a better job and also he can Tera well in different types, lastly he can dish out pretty good damage.
    - Potentially also I can use a stun spore support, I might go with support Slither Wing set with wisp and stun spore it has a solid special bulk surprisingly, but in exchange for Ting-Lu.
    - Maybe have kyurem as a special sweeper instead of Keldeo, however I won't have any priority and I have no hazard removal.
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    My main concern here is that you have no immediate power. Nothing can hit hard without setup. Kyurem also farms this.

    For the most part is seems like a standard hazard stack, but I think the Ttar has got to go. If you want to make DDtar work, I'd recommend a hyper offense build, perhaps Veil.
    RoroNoDono
    RoroNoDono
    Thought so too, maybe Ceruledge and scizor since they have priority.
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Scizor would fit best I'd say, given the Kyurem issue. Sub sets are still a nightmare but it helps.
    This might sound like a strange question, but are there team structures that don't rely on rocks (outside of stuff like Veil and webs)? I ask cause I feel like I'm habitually jamming them into teams out of obligation rather than making an informed decision on fitting them in vs trying out different sets on standard rockers (i.e. Taunt Great Tusk).
    petabytecat
    petabytecat
    idk if i should comment on these posts. but from what i understand a good team should probably have rocks. but it doesnt need to rely on it (you dont need to have a lead).
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Very, VERY few good teams lack stealth rock. It's one of the best moves in singles. You should be jamming them onto teams.
    As a joke, my friend told me to use rising voltage Arctozolt. Thinking about it, as long as I set up terrain and snow I can sweep very effectively (rising voltage does crazy damage, and it also has blizzard stab/meteor beam to deal with pokes that aren't on the ground). The rest of the team focuses on covering weaknesses. I haven't seen anyone use this. Do you think it should be the new meta . Jokes! But its so fun to play with. Love to hear your opinion on this!!!

    Also I had SOOOO much fun naming this.
    https://pokepast.es/2c85bf5d45d610c3
    (slowking and tapu koko set up arctozolt so they are the ice cream man and ice cream scooper, respectively. slowking looks like a guy. and tapu koko has this shield like thing thats like a scooper haha. shiny char x is like a warm brownie, especially since I love brownie ice cream. Then shiny ferrothorn looks like lychee and ig lando-t is like crumbs).
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    I'd worry more about what the meta pokemon are, rather than type charts. Definitely do add a ground immunity though
    petabytecat
    petabytecat
    which poke do u suggest tho. cuz i tried so many and they all don't work that well…
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Mandibuzz fits in theory, depends on the meta though.
    CB Cinderace is very fun to click 90% of the time so I built this team last year and forgot about it until yesterday. don't ask what I was on building this team tho
    Paste: https://pokepast.es/a45d66f0dbb9ebc1
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    I'd remove Wake. Hazard stack means more than SR, it means spikes AND SR. Still add SR to tusk though, rocks are too good to turn down.
    Itzbruhcon
    Itzbruhcon
    What do I swap wake for? another water type or just a strong spattacker like krai?
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Depends on what your team struggles with. And what it needs defensively. Test and see what would fit best. Off the top of my head I'd say Wellspring
    https://pokepast.es/63c4e453443d1f4f

    I made a pretty straightforward hazard stack team. It has probably been my most successful team I personally made, though I didn't do anything groundbreaking.

    Darkrai - Knock Off user. I was running Ice Beam for a bit, but not having Focus Blast made my kinggambit/opposing Darkrai MU kind of bad. If I can find a strong KingGambit answer, I would like to switch this to Ice Beam to hit Dragonite/Tusk/Landorus.

    Skarmory - Standard Full Defense with spikes + whirlwind. Whirlwind for the phasing and for anti-setup, and it's usually my answer to Dragonite dancers. I can't find a nice Tera for this one. Dragon shores up the fire weakness, but each time I used it, it always backfired due to losing my ground/poison immunity.

    Great Tusk - I mean. It's Great Tusk. This is also a fully defensive set, in order to set up rocks multiple times per game if necessary, take a knock off, while still threatening Gholdengo / Kingambit and the likes. I'm not sure how much of a strong kingambit answer it really is. Considering dropping knock off for close combat.

    Gholdengo - The resident spin blocker. I've won entire games with this set, because it walls a lot of mons really well, and hex + thunderwave is tough to deal with against a bulky Gholdengo. However, I can't decide on Make it Rain vs Dazzling Gleam vs something else as my last attacking move. MIR is my only offensive steel move, and Dazzling Gleam will be my only offensive fairy-type move. So each time I swap one for the other I end up missing the others.

    These 4 I feel confident I can make a good team with these Pokémon as long as I tweak their sets some more. It's these last 2 Pokémon that can easily change, and probably should. They haven't felt very great to use.

    Galarian-Slowking - This is supposed to be my specially defensive wall, and I appreciate the Moonblast resistance because mons like Iron Valiant would tear through Great Tusk / Darkrai with it, and Skarmory gets 2 shot by it, so it's not a switch-in. Gholdengo can work but it's just something to consider. I will say having a chilly reception is my saving grace against sun teams because so far this team has no strong priority to counter boosted mons like Ceruledge or chlorphyll mons like Venasaur, so having that option is really nice.

    Dragapult - I realized I didn't have any speed control so I threw in a Dragapult, it's not I chose a physical set because I didn't have a strong physical attacker because Darkrai and Gholdengo are special. I'm considering making this banded Tera Dark for Sucker Punch, but I don't really like sucker punch as my only speed control. Especially against threats like Shadow Sneak +2 Ceruledge.

    Weakness

    - Overall, I have a large weakness to fire types; Dragapult is my only resist, but it's very frail, and doesn't have a good way to counter it. So fast physical fire-type attackers are usually really scary, though if I can get in Great Tusk, I can usually scare them away. So Mons like Blaziken, Ceruledge, Cinderace, and even Hisui Aracanine. Usually with special fire sweepers, I can usually get g-slowking in and then Chilly into great tusk.

    - Though it's not a good team, I played against 3 electric terrain teams with pinchurin, and the speed boosts that the Future Paradox monsters may get allow them to outspeed and hurt a lot of my mons (I probably need better speed control)


    Let me know what you think I can improve on!
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    I strongly advise against Specs Pult. For a team like this I'd recommend going full HDB spam and not worrying about removal, this allows you to remove Tusk for Ting-Lu. Ghost types are a nightmare for you currently. I also strongly advise against Scarf Pult, it's not a good pokemon at all
    hey pinka, ive been testing out this v create trick room victini team for around a week and a half, my main struggle is hazard stack and rain teams and i was wondering if its a matter of playing and rebuilding? Thank you!
    Hi Pinkacross! I took a break from teambuilding for a while but I'm back and want to know what you think about this team: https://pokepast.es/195972e3c6d8b890. It seems pretty solid/standard so I can't tell if I'm making mistakes in piloting it or if I'm just losing to Ogerpon because it's Ogerpon. Let me know what you think! Thanks!
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    This doesn't seem weak to Wellspring. Perhaps try Body Press on Alo if you're still having issues. The team as a whole concerns me, you have 2 physical walls but nothing to take special hits, and it seems like a mix of balance and HO.
    Hey Pinkacross, I remade that terrible team I gave you (sorry for wasting your time abt that) but I think I made it better with your advice, and I was wondering if you think this is better at all. I think I made two big changes here by switching dondozo for Keldeo and clef for SD Weavile which helped my offense a lot, and making treads spdef, but kyurem is still a problem. I was wondering if you could re rate it, thanks! https://pokepast.es/ebe91c0366271474
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    No worries at all, there's nothing wrong with making bad teams. I do it myself all the time. This is better but still struggles with lack of immediate power. I'd give it a 6/10 at a glance. I don't think this is weak to Kyurem.
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Perhaps try CB Weavile, might be an improvement but might not.
    Playing a discord tour where people make svou (minus tera) teams plus one designated Mon I got baxcaliber (no snow) and I tried building around it but what worked best was this archived sample https://pokepast.es/8535e5ac80a6f650 want to know what I could change to make it work better, although I could swap teams entirely if this one is too unreliable
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    I've never built bax without snow. CB is probably the way to go. This team dies to Wellspring though. I'd just rebuild and consider the modern threats
    https://pokepast.es/283cfc3b988318b7 Decided to make a team around sinistcha + dondozo cuz it’s a good anti offense core + kind of skilless imo. Just wondering if you can rate this version on ten with some improvements. All I can say is that I’m not exactly about the items and some moves yet, and that wogerpon can be a very bad matchup if you don’t position properly, along with kyurem.
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Yea Kyurem is horrifying here. Complete lack of offense worries me as well. I'd say 4/10. Seems kind of like a worse version of standard stall. I'd need to test to be sure but I'm not a fan of this
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    I'd ditch treads for an SD gliscor, that gives you a wincon and a better knock user
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Could you please put the teams somewhere other than my page if you're not asking for rates? I recommend Google Docs or Showdown.
    ScizorDaGoat
    mb, showdown is bloacked so i can only use radical red showdown offline version teambuilder so i just put the teams here till i can get home. Mb
    Made a Weavile team, got recommended to add shadow sneak to val and CM to bolt. Haven't noticed a major difference with the sneak over psycho cut but cm has made it better. Do I have any glaring weaknesses? https://pokepast.es/62119542e2ccc2ac
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Very confused by this Ival spread. Seems like full attack investment is better. I'd go Dragon Pulse over Draco on Rbolt. Booster Attack on Tusk also seems worthwhile. Rillaboom is a menace here, that's my main concern.
    Pocketrocket
    Thanks man, I stuffed up with the val set, i swapped the nature around without reinvesting stats.
    I made a AV crown team and had a Mienshao too because who doesn't like to click Close Combat know FS can finish whatever is still on the field?
    Paste: https://pokepast.es/f427821947bc7319
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    I very much doubt the viability of Mienshao, but my main concern is your lack of immediate power. I'd go either AV on Hrott and Specs on Iron Crown, or AV on Crown and CB on Hrott. CB Aqua Jet Tera Water Hrott may be best since that gives you some strong priority. That's what I'd go with
    Itzbruhcon
    Itzbruhcon
    igthh thanks
    Good Morning, Dr.Pinkacross!
    I have been working on this Offensive Hstack team around AV Hamu+ RC Glimm for a month.
    Do you mind giving me some feedback on it?
    The team
    I opted for tera fire on Zamazenta over the standard ones for a better matchup into Wisp Pult.
    Thank you in advance!
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    I see, that makes sense. There's really no solution to the Gweez problem beyond major restructuring, Ogerpon issue would be helped by running Twave + Hex on your Gholdengo. As for Lando leads, no easy solution there, perhaps just lead Gholdengo and MIR if the Balloon isn't important otherwise.
    Hon07rial
    Hon07rial
    Sorry, what about deoxys speed? I struggle against np sets most since they can play my samurott's sucker punches
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Honestly if Deo-S is getting past a team with a ghold, AV Sucker hrott, and espeed dnite, I feel like that's just a matter of playing. I'm sure with a bit more practice it won't be an issue
    Hey Pinka! Managed to catch a bit of the Dragalge live and was actually interested in having a Dragonite + Hoopa + Alo core similar to the team you ended up using! Is there anything specific you would swap out dragalge with that you think would improve the team? Like pivot Glowking or even boots Bolt?
    Pinkacross
    Pinkacross
    Yea probably Glowking would be loads better and function similarly, perhaps physdef Colbur Tera Grass so its a decent Wellspring swapin
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