NOC 11p White Flag Thread

[M2H]

I'm completely lost atp

 

[M2H]

Idk but this reaction from dusk doesn't feel like scum it's tough man

 

[MoodyCloud]

I don't really get how people are going about solving this game tbh. People are saying if dusk is scum, x makes him win? Ok, but I am not scum, if I lynch everyone but clarinet and he is scum he wins. But he is town so that isn't the case. Why is anyone even scumreading me at this point, besides the fact I am a good scum player?

As far as I can see people are saying "oh dusk and m2h 1v1 let's lynch dusk", but I am not really seeing the solving or the reasoning behind why people are choosing either side and why you townread one of us above the other. Sure we have justification to vote each other and sure we can scumread each other. But people coming in saying one of us is scum and it could be either honestly makes little sense from a towny perspective and is lazy at best. Pick a side and explain why I am more towny, or m2h is more towny if that is what you believe. We clearly aren't both scum I am sure everyone agrees with that. At least one of us is town, because I am. You should be trying to find a town you know exists rather than trying to lynch through two players because it is easier to do.

? I think M2h is town, I'm not trying to find a town between you two lol

 

[MoodyCloud]

if m2h is scum here this is a massive improvement to his scum game

 

[MoodyCloud]

I think duskfall's tone has been good from d2 onwards but when I look at flips, reads of dead townies, what would make the most sense as a scum gameplan in white flag and in particular at the fact I'm so stuck trying to find a solve, I'm reminded of last game where the reason why I couldn't find a satsifying solve was that I was pocketed by hal who was covering for texas, and when I add 2 and 2 together here I just end up with duskfall/clarinet with duskfall playing a similar role and talking me out of suspecting clarinet whom hal had a sr on

 

[MoodyCloud]

You're both very convincing

I'm convincing to you when I say you're probably scum ?

 

[JALMONT]

I mean partly why I think dusk/m2h works is that you have people on both sides vehemently defending the other as town which just strikes me as odd and unnecessary. You don’t see me spending an inordinate amount of time defending moody even though I think he’s town.

I still think both are pretty comparable in the sense that there are behaviors/things both say that make me go “yeah that’s pretty town” or just “wtf is this dude mafia“ so it’s hard to say who is mafia.

But that said its really tough for me to get away from dusk here. I want to do it but my fears are more based in him being town and what do from there because I would basically be screwed lol. Killing tbz doesn’t make sense for scum!m2h. Dusks early d2 where he pushed tbz/moody and soft defended cb doesn’t look good. I do think objectively thinking m2h’s behavior doesn’t make sense as mafia

idk fk me

 

[MoodyCloud]

I have learned from last game that it's a bad idea to defer lynching "dominant" players until lylo as a result of not wanting to own it earlier, people rarely reconsider established reads in lylo

 

[MoodyCloud]

or they do but are unwiling to act on it

 

[JALMONT]

the last 2 members of this scum team are skilled at mafia, no doubt about that

You never told me what your main language is :(

 

[MoodyCloud]

I mean partly why I think dusk/m2h works is that you have people on both sides vehemently defending the other as town which just strikes me as odd and unnecessary. You don’t see me spending an inordinate amount of time defending moody even though I think he’s town.

I still think both are pretty comparable in the sense that there are behaviors/things both say that make me go “yeah that’s pretty town” or just “wtf is this dude mafia“ so it’s hard to say who is mafia.

But that said its really tough for me to get away from dusk here. I want to do it but my fears are more based in him being town and what do from there because I would basically be screwed lol. Killing tbz doesn’t make sense for scum!m2h. Dusks early d2 where he pushed tbz/moody and soft defended cb doesn’t look good. I do think objectively thinking m2h’s behavior doesn’t make sense as mafia

idk fk me

why does killing tbz not make sense for m2h again ?

 

[M2H]

unvote

 

[M2H]

why does scum!dusk agree to thunderdome me and just death tunnel me to this extent, when I'm giving him an out

 

[M2H]

It doesn't make sense

 

[M2H]

I mean partly why I think dusk/m2h works is that you have people on both sides vehemently defending the other as town which just strikes me as odd and unnecessary. You don’t see me spending an inordinate amount of time defending moody even though I think he’s town.

I still think both are pretty comparable in the sense that there are behaviors/things both say that make me go “yeah that’s pretty town” or just “wtf is this dude mafia“ so it’s hard to say who is mafia.

But that said its really tough for me to get away from dusk here. I want to do it but my fears are more based in him being town and what do from there because I would basically be screwed lol. Killing tbz doesn’t make sense for scum!m2h. Dusks early d2 where he pushed tbz/moody and soft defended cb doesn’t look good. I do think objectively thinking m2h’s behavior doesn’t make sense as mafia

idk fk me

You aren't hard defending moody because moody isn't a lynch target rn. I don't understand your point in para 1.

 

[JALMONT]

why does killing tbz not make sense for m2h again ?

Thought m2h was town. Unless you take the 200iq angle it would’ve made more sense for m2h!scum to shoot me because me and clarinet are the only real people to think he’s sus. And then I don’t really see why m2h would believe trying to potentially frame me would be a good option vs going for laurel/uto/clarinet

 

[MoodyCloud]

I mean partly why I think dusk/m2h works is that you have people on both sides vehemently defending the other as town which just strikes me as odd and unnecessary. You don’t see me spending an inordinate amount of time defending moody even though I think he’s town.

I still think both are pretty comparable in the sense that there are behaviors/things both say that make me go “yeah that’s pretty town” or just “wtf is this dude mafia“ so it’s hard to say who is mafia.

But that said its really tough for me to get away from dusk here. I want to do it but my fears are more based in him being town and what do from there because I would basically be screwed lol. Killing tbz doesn’t make sense for scum!m2h. Dusks early d2 where he pushed tbz/moody and soft defended cb doesn’t look good. I do think objectively thinking m2h’s behavior doesn’t make sense as mafia

idk fk me

did you mean dusk/clarinet in that first sentence ?

 

[JALMONT]

did you mean dusk/clarinet in that first sentence ?

i mean vote dusk and then vote m2h

 

[MoodyCloud]

why does scum!dusk agree to thunderdome me and just death tunnel me to this extent, when I'm giving him an out

I'm operating under the assumption that scum is cornered and does not want to make it obvious that they're focused on survival
but I'll admit it's surprising

 

[Laurel]

Im not hard defending mewtwo but i dont think hes scum here and Dusk has been really really bad this game

 

[Laurel]

Nope, it can't be, I'm town and if Energy and you are town

that makes Moody and Jal our scum team

i think its possible

 

[MoodyCloud]

I think the best line of defense in this situation for scum is to focus on "who's the partner" so as to defend individual members by making the read on them second to the issue of team solving ?

 

[MoodyCloud]

rereading page 43 I'm like wtf is going on here

 

[MoodyCloud]

clarinet openly dropped the dusk lynch and did a full 180 all in the span of one page

 

[MoodyCloud]

is dusk at l-1? someone unvote, I dont want a repeat of day 2

day 2 where scum was lynched