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13p Matrix 14 (No Multiball) Game Thread [GAME OVER]

D1 Final Votecount

Clarinet(5) - Duskfall98, JALMONT, MoodyCloud, Energy, HealNDeal
JALMONT(4) - MewtwoHidden, apricity, Hannahh, Texas Cloverleaf
Duskfall98(2) - Thunder~BALLZ, Clarinet
Texas Cloverleaf(1) - DS.

Not voting: Fenrir Aesir

and d2 before the m2h watcher claim :

Votecount 2.3

Thunder~BALLZ(4) - Texas Cloverleaf, Hannahh, MewtwoHidden, HealNDeal
Fenrir Aesir(1) - Duskfall98
Texas Cloverleaf(1) - Thunder~BALLZ

Deadline in 2 hours, 1 minute. :heart:
Hammer is 6.
Votecount 2.2

MewtwoHidden(4) -Thunder~BALLZ, Energy, MoodyCloud, JALMONT
Thunder~BALLZ
(3) - apricity, Texas Cloverleaf, Hannahh
Energy(1) - MewtwoHidden
Fenrir Aesir(1) - Duskfall98

Deadline in about 3 hours, 20 minutes. It is 6 to hammer. :heart:

Final D2 Votecount

JALMONT(4) - MewtwoHidden, Hannahh, apricity, HealNDeal
Thunder~BALLZ(2) - JALMONT, Texas Cloverleaf
Fenrir Aesir(1) - Duskfall98
Texas Cloverleaf(1) - Thunder~BALLZ

Final D3 votecount:

MewtwoHidden(5) - Duskfall98, MoodyCloud, apricity, Texas Cloverleaf, Hannahh
Duskfall98(2) - MewtwoHidden, Energy
 
JALMONT(4) - MewtwoHidden, apricity, Hannahh, Texas Cloverleaf

this doesn't hold much weight but it's unlikely they piled all 3 on jalmont day 1 ?



Thunder~BALLZ(4) - Texas Cloverleaf, Hannahh, MewtwoHidden, HealNDeal

Mid day 2 the jalmont wagon squad is still kicking



MewtwoHidden(4) -Thunder~BALLZ, Energy, MoodyCloud, JALMONT
Thunder~BALLZ(3) - apricity, Texas Cloverleaf, Hannahh
Energy(1) - MewtwoHidden

I think this one is relevant,that's when m2h was "forced" (I think he may have gotten away with it had he waited until 1h to dl ?) to claim and seal his fate, while baiting the actual watcher to reveal themselves. Energy being on the wagon might be significant though I guess they could have just parked and gone afk I'll need to check the timing of their pop-ins


Duskfall98(2) - MewtwoHidden, Energy
at eod3 energy ends up doing whatever it is they were doing and definitely standing out, idk this seems like their votes just did m2h no favors for two days straight if they're teammates here
 
Day 2 I sheeped Hal because I trusted him more than myself, I said it when it happened, I said it after it happened, for you to still not understand that is pretty crazy.
 
Is maf just thunderballz jalmont fenrir
^this was before m2h's claim, and energy kind of randomly votes m2h as tballz's wagon gains traction


Fuck this man. M2hs claim is shit.

If theres a universal back up there isnt only 2 PRs theres a third
wtf energy
^this was after

Town only has 2 pr?

Do I need to read 70 pages and solve or what
Why is nobody talking about Heal
Hannahh apricity too late to shift to heal? That last vote just solidified it for me
 
actually the problem I have with energy is that he confidently votes someone and then it's like it never happened, I just don't see the progression in his iso aside from him having a tr on hal and extending it to dusk and hannah who were rather safe consensus town pool
 
yes, I will iso him later but idk I'd think tballz got killed because he signalled super hard that he might be watcher, but I don't see how killing him and hooking texas instead of doing the reverse wasn't a massive choke
1)Tbz probs got killed for being the least likely to be watched when I think about it.
2)Unless you think mafia would spend their time using their hook on their teammates, Texas has to be town.
 
Ill try and step up but im drunkt bowling with coworkers. If you’re town and really care, just read my other games and youll see this is how i always am.

If I read this game its only to try and solve. Its probably really obvious just half assing. Sorry Jalmont
 
Votecount 4.0

Hannahh(2) - apricity, bluedoom
Energy(1) - Texas Cloverleaf
Texas Cloverleaf(1) - Energy

With 7 alive, it's 4 to hammer.

Phase end in 22 hours, 52 minutes. :heart:
 
1)Tbz probs got killed for being the least likely to be watched when I think about it.
2)Unless you think mafia would spend their time using their hook on their teammates, Texas has to be town.
nah hannah was always the kill there if hitting the consensus town pool without getting watched was your aim, never tballz lol
 
atp I'm thinking if scum distanced properly then it's bluedoom/texas
If they went all in on obvscumming and associating with m2h then it's 2 of heal/hannah/energy
Once again, you put me into a category of protecting or associating with a list of people that I have not actually had pleasant reads on this entire game. I have been super hard against Hannah and M2h since the beginning and have definitely not been pro Energy. I don't think Hannah has been associating with energy at all for that matter, either. Maybe because well Energy has been absent and hasn't been associating with anyone, much like you yourself have been for half this game.

Like come on.
 
While I have grown to sympathize a lot with Hannah's emotions during Day 3, I also can't ignore my reads on her day 1 and day 2, so she's definitely a major consideration for my lynch vote today. What also scares me is that if Hannah is town, her reads this game have also just been not the best. I feel like when she gets nervous and unsure, it only adds to my own anxiety in this game and I think both me and her being alive in a mylo/lylo just creates a nervous wreck of a game. I'm a wreck, she's a wreck, two wrecks isn't very good.

I'm of course terrified that she's town and I think her willingness to just be lynched today is a bit weird, but at the same time I also know that my own endgame utility is pretty low so I also understand where she's coming from. It's really hard for me to express all my thoughts on this matter, and a lot of them are emotional than just cold hard reads so it's muddy to begin with. I'm also just really worried that if Hannah flips town that the scumhunting trail goes completely cold and the game just becomes harder.

My second consideration is Texas due to his mix of being unusually quiet this game for a confirmed non-PR Texas and just clearing his giant looming question mark I think gives the most clues to solving the rest of the field. I can completely imagine him as the shadow figure behind scum, coordinating orders and telling m2h what to do, and it's more of just a gut uneasiness. Scum caused quiet a bit of damage early game, and Texas just seems like the scum leader that could have been the conductor behind it all. In terms of question mark clearing, Bluedoom and Moody are also big question marks. While Blue might be less active this game than in my past game with him, I am getting the same vibes from him. In that game I was scum and Blue was town... want to say he was doctor but can't 100% remember, but he wasn't a super go lucky towny by any means. I don't know a ton about Moody but I feel like this is relatively standard moody play and I can't justify Moody being more likely to be scum than Texas at this point. If Texas flips town, especially since Energy is leading that vote, then I think that implicates Energy and I might want to go there next in the event that a less obvious candidate arises.

omfg this is a useless post. typed it at 7:30 am but like omfg can't click send since it's just me whining about the two people with votes. like fuck they are my thoughts but they are also useless thoughts. hitting the save button for now and will reevaluate later.
 
blah I guess if I am attempting to make that goopling gunk less useless I think what I was saying for that texas part is the gamestate of Energy voting Texas and Texas voting Energy right now gives us a interesting 1v1, and 1v1s like that have a lot of potential for information.

Hannah's a good vote too, but for me it's less so about information and more about following my early gut and trying to prevent a mylo/lylo where the townies are bad at making reads.

so I guess that's a decent tl;dr of the above. Still kinda just musings over the current votes without something hugely decisive which I know is annoying and useless, but there's one person in particular I want to hear a bit more from being I cast my vote.
 
blah I guess if I am attempting to make that goopling gunk less useless I think what I was saying for that texas part is the gamestate of Energy voting Texas and Texas voting Energy right now gives us a interesting 1v1, and 1v1s like that have a lot of potential for information.

Hannah's a good vote too, but for me it's less so about information and more about following my early gut and trying to prevent a mylo/lylo where the townies are bad at making reads.

so I guess that's a decent tl;dr of the above. Still kinda just musings over the current votes without something hugely decisive which I know is annoying and useless, but there's one person in particular I want to hear a bit more from being I cast my vote.
No I'm actually totally okay with being lynched here if it means you guys lynch the right person in lylo because I 100000% will not lynch correctly in lylo, but also the 'town core' rn is all off so I would be wary of that. P sure you and Moody are town.

Onto the topic of Texas, I can see him as town. Dusk helped me come around to tring him, and, with watcher alive, why the fuck doesM2H roleblock Texas instead of trying to find watcher if Texas is scum with him. Too much to try to set up a clear, imo. And without guarantee of it working. So I think Texas is MOST LIKELY town because the idea is just too farfetched and if it worked they got too lucky w it.
 
The argument has been “there cant be a weak maf” so whos the third if im scum with m2h, it has to be texas or apricity as the last, and I just voted Texas.
Well if the game is a true rand game, then "balanced mafia" is a pointless speculation. I know I was one of the people who entertained this thought before but blah I don't want to go down balance logic anymore and I think I was shit for doing so in the first place.
 
It's like when you say "there's no way he's mafia 3 games in a row"

It makes sense to us but it's not at all true or logically or mathematically correct lmao

So like, Hal/Tommy/Texas COULD happen but it feels impossible butrng doesn't take into account skill level. Same w a weak mafia team.
 
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