Recently, we received news about DLC2 Crown Tundra and you can find the official video here:
In addition, a list of the Pokemon that are confirmed in DLC2 Crown Tundra can be found in the following image:
For a list of all of the movepool changes, check out here. The most notable of these changes can be found in this post here as well. In addition, this post shows them by generation here. Finally, a list of DLC move tutor compatibility for unreleased Pokemon can be found here.
Here is a link to the tiermaker with all of the new relevant Pokemon (do note: it is missing some alternate forms of Pokemon being released, so feel free to discuss them in posts independently of your tier list if you would like to).
Some topics for discussion for those interested in posting are:
Here is a link to the tiermaker with all of the new relevant Pokemon (do note: it is missing some alternate forms of Pokemon being released, so feel free to discuss them in posts independently of your tier list if you would like to).
Some topics for discussion for those interested in posting are:
- Which Pokemon do you think will be broken?
- Which Pokemon do you think are being overrated?
- Which Pokemon are you most excited to see returning?
- Which currently released Pokemon do you expect to improve?
- Would you go Chomper here?
- What else are you excited about? What are you worried about? And what other observations do you have?
- Blaziken has a great movepool and pretty epic ability of Speed Boost. I don't think it'll be broken, but it will be interesting to see how it can use Speed Boost to deal with the Tapu Lele and Tapu Koko. Finally this thing got CC so I don't need to miss HJK anymore kek. Will be fun to use this mon.
- Heatran going to be really good with all of the Tapu's being top tier, Rillaboom still being good, and being a Fire-type so it can own Registeel. Can run a variant items from Specs, Scarf, Shuca, Balloon, you name it Heatran can use it.
- Woo I'm super pumped about this thing since it gets Cosmic Power AND Stored Power. A stall mon that actually has offensive pressure?? Will be cool after the meta settles down.
- pog...
- There's like what 2 or 3 viable Fire-types in the meta? Registeel will be good af
- The PP stallers are back. They might be good since Gen8 is kinda similiar to the old gens since there aren't Z-Moves or Mega Evolutions, so if you aren't running a resist berry, your prolly running a Choice item.
(and the others but i forgot whose on council lol)
I wish you luck brave soldier
252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 248 HP / 212 Def Primarina: 218-260 (60 - 71.6%) -- approx. 2HKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Thunder Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Primarina: 240-284 (65.9 - 78%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Primarina: 192-228 (52.7 - 62.6%) -- approx. 2HKO
clicking counter should just win w/o an ih flinch
252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 418-492 (106 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO and you need min 252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Sylveon: 332-392 (84.2 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO for it to not be a roll, should just come down to yawn turns but this MU is anything but reliable, smth to keep in mind.
252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 12 Def Azumarill: 260-308 (64.3 - 76.2%) -- approx. 2HKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 24 HP / 4 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 279-328 (84.8 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO however charm should win unless you come across ghandi special dnite/get crit/super high rolls w/ tpunch
yuh it's just so hard to kill and it's absurdly strong. gonna piggy back off 
free my boy it has hella counterplay now :pray: mainly urshi-ss, everything getting eerie impulse, pressure stall w/ cm being a hard wall to both stall+specs it's not hard to check in building. 
Disclaimer: LANDORUS THERIAN ISN'T CONFIRMED YET STOP USING IT IN PROTOTYPE TOURS. With that out of the way Landorus has easily shot up to number 1 on my list for anti-meta threats. With all of the steels and fires roaming this thing is a frickin beast. Not to mention scarf sludge wave can beat all of the tapus including scarf koko so thats great. It likes to run Scarf or Lorb mostly but specs can work if you have an answer to scarf lele on your team. Too bad it doesnt get like hurricane but I feel like I’d get tilted just clicking it and besides I haven’t really come across an mu where I was like “Aw dag! Wish I had hurricane!”. I think this thing will be n S-Tier by the time bans are settled as it’s great counterplay to non-shuca victini. I’m also going to use this on like 70% of my teams :eyes:
This one seems to be more of a hot take so I'll explain: basically band just kos everything. Not only that, but you also have the option to act as an antistall with Taunt. I don't think it'll take long for players to adjust to it, nor do I think it'll necessarily be the very top of the meta, but I'm confident it will do great.
Latias has the resources to both ko things, stall, and screw things over with Trick. It has the full package to take on just about anything it wants. The only issue is that it naturally experiences a lot of opportunity cost to switch between each set. Because of this, I feel it'll be more of a tour threat than a ladder threat.
While most would say it is easy to Download-proof mons, I'm thinking physical Genesect will actually have some decent merit to it, thanks to Extremespeed no longer being locked to Hasty. Additionally, I think the nature of the meta will allow it to expand out to sets besides your average choice options, though I'm sure early on that choice will be pretty much all that's used. Ultimately, I feel Genesect will be assuredly great, though I think it'll be more of a slow burn before people bring out its full potential.
Metagross is an interesting one. With exceptionally tanky stats, the freedom to run almost any item of its choosing, and a wide variety of moves at its disposal, I can foresee this Pokemon keeping people on their toes. That said, similar to Latias, it suffers from considerable opportunity cost when choosing between each set, in addition to not really having as great of a set of resources to fill as many archetypes as Latias can. Ultimately, it's one that I can see doing well, particularly in tournaments, but probably won't dominate the meta by any means.
Basically just what Archeops does in every gen, but with Dual Wingbeat now. Similar to Aggron, I think it'll be relatively easy to adjust to it if you get sick of losing to it, but ofc the reason why Archeops isn't quite as assuredly good is because of the over-reliance on hitting Head Smash, as well as how easy it is to screw it over with a Scarf. You could always clap back with your own Scarf, but that comes at the expense of every KO you needed Band for.
As usual, the dog is better than the man. The added power and Intimidate works wonders for Lando-T. All things considered, the options it has between Band, Scarf, AV, and setup all make it a tough Pokemon to account for. That said, much like Latias and Metagross, I can foresee Lando-T doing better in keeping people on their toes in tours, rather than being a scourge of the ladder.
Pheromosa's got it all; power, speed, and a killer set of moves to choose from. I can easily foresee people running Specs with Blizzard out of desperation to cover Dragonite, though physical sets all come with their share of benefits as well. While being checked by a Scarf is a major weakness, I can very feasibly see some (crazy) people running their own Scarf to get around them. Additionally, tactically bulked sets that make use of Lunge/Skitter Smack can take advantage of Pheromosa's deceptively bulky nature. In a sense, it's similar in potential to how I described Landorus-Therian.
Kartana just bops things as usual. This Pokemon will singlehandedly (swordedly?) force things to bulk up considerably on the physical end or die trying. Mostly die- Band alone already shreds near everything, but there's also the added setup factor with double dance, synthesis, and Sacred Sword bypassing defenses or Leaf Blade getting a crit sooner or later. My only concern that holds this mon back from being assuredly dominant is that it's also pretty susceptible to Scarves, and simultaneously not really that great at making use of its own Scarf.
Naganadel is a Pokemon whom I have no doubt in my mind will thrive, though the main matter I foresee with this one is that it is rather one-dimensional. You're pretty much just using STABs + Fire Blast for everything. Not to mention going the setup route with Nasty Plot means you need to sacrifice one of your moves between either your Poison STAB, Fire Blast, or Laser Focus, which is incredibly useful for breaking past special boosters. Additionally, it suffers from the same issues as Kartana in being susceptible to Scarves while not being that great of a Scarf user itself.
While being the least likely to be unbanned of the bunch, Marshadow's been taking some hits as time goes by; fairies are rising up, physically bulky mons that can KO it are getting better, and now there's a whole slew of mons coming to cause it trouble. Even if it doesn't get unbanned a couple weeks from now, it will assuredly be something to consider later on. Considering the meta I've described above and below, Marshadow definitely has some steep competition, though of course it's still very well capable of doing anything it pleases with much less opportunity cost per set than any other mon I've presented. If allowed into the meta, this is something I can definitely foresee enforcing widespread adaptations in order to beat specifically it, though to what extent exactly is something that would have to be seen.
While Magearna absolutely despises many of the returning Fires and Grounds, it still has plenty of tricks up its sleeves, especially with moves like Encore and Trick at its disposal. With that said, I feel Magearna will actually be more of a slow burn like Genesect, since people are likely just gonna jump straigt to choice once it's freed, and progressively build to the more tactical sets that'll make it shine in tours.
I feel Jirachi will still be alright. Great speed and bulk with plenty of setup options and Encore after all, though I do feel that its overall damage output is relatively low, so unless you're using a Trick of your own, it'll be notably susceptible to other Pokemon's Tricks. In general I feel people will wanna look at all the shiny new Steels and the returning Magearna and Melmetal before looking back at Jirachi, so it'll likely be some time before Jirachi gets attention once more.
Draco Meteor hits super hard and Latios reaches such a good speed tier for the dlc2 meta at 350. It got Mystical Fire so it doesn't need Hidden Power anymore. I think Modest Choice Scarf will actually be its best set, since it beats Victini with Surf, Genesect and Kartana with Mystical Fire, Draco on everything else.
This just has a great MU against top tiers. I think a mon with Chandy's offensive typing that is super fast and has even higher special attack can just shred through stuff very easily.
Super good mon that hard suffers from the amount of good dragon types in the tier that simply outspeed and OHKO.
Will not be Top Tier but good typing duo and insanely high special bulk will make this very threatening and anti meta
a fairy type that doesn't beat the most prominent dragons: Latios (it needs Specs), Garchomp (it needs super bulky WP), Naganadel (needs like AV or something lol), Zygarde ("slower garchomp")
cool typing, it will probably 3-0 certain ladder teams
sub seed, ig? Typing is pretty cool but a lot of top tiers run fire/electric coverage, and stuff like zygarde exists, so it's hard for it to thrive. Would be better in a more passive meta
173 base SpA is what will carry this mon as soon as koko gets banned. Has a bunch of potential but its EVs will have to be stretched thin for it to work
serperior moment. Tbh I should've moved this to niche cause it isn't good lmao
