Metagame 1v1 Old Gens

[Kentari]

SM VR Thoughts

A- --> A/A+
Victini however, has gained a great amount of usage this pl. It has not done great or bad but it still almost hits 10% of usage. Similar to Dragonite, Victini is also capable of running a variety of sets that all have its own niche. Its 100s base stats across the board account for a hard-to-KO, fast physical or special offensive threat that has a great movepool in V-Create, Bolt Strike, Blue Flare and Stored Power in combination with Z-Celebrate. A Scarf set from time to time also makes this a great glue on a lot of teams.

I think A is right for it. The Z-Celebrate set is good enough to move it higher. The Fire types that beat Zard X (Heatran, Incineroar, Z-Celebrate Victini) just fit on so many teams. Victini is really relying on Zard X not running attack, though.

If you had asked me last year where I would put this mon, I would say S-. This pl it turns out that Porygon-Z is very well prepared for as shown from its low winrate. A reason for this can be that Porygon-Z fails to beat Special Defensive walls and is easily countered by Faster mons and Steel-types. Porygon-Z has moved into the Z-Conversion tunnel as Choice Scarf tends to threaten other checks as well. It hasn't done well this tour, but I won't lower its ranking because it can still be a menace on preview.

I think you should drop it, for the reasons you said. It didn't do well this tour or in the last world cup or the last PL.

C+ --> B-/B
pqs — 04-04-2021
Slaking is broken
I have to back up on this, Slaking's Choice Band set can be quite overwhelming. This pl it only had 1 loss out of 8.

This pokemon was always better than we thought. Teams like the one TSC brought vs DC3 in game 5 of the semifinals of PL5 are exactly the type of teams that are hard to 3-0, and that Slaking just destroys. Scarf is good as well.

B- --> B+
Despite the poor usage of Manaphy, I do think it deserves a raise. After using it myself I found out that it is pretty easy to build with as Tail Glow + Coverage of choice is wallbreaking and simply beats almost anything that can't 2hko it. Even Skill Swap should be considered as this allows Manaphy to beat Dragonite, Kommo-o, Volcanion, Crustle and Magnezone more reliably.

Similar to Slaking, those teams with less than 100 base speed can just get 3-0d by Manaphy.

B+ --> B-
Registeels hype from last year seems to be over. It has a low usage (11) and a low winrate (27%). Nothing much else to say.

I always thought this sucked. It only seemed good because Ravonne is good and Serperior is amazing.

B+ --> B
I was surprised to see that Togekiss had a very low winrate (maybe because the hax seemed overpowered). This might be due to it being very weak to physical threats and supereffective mons like Magnezone, Metagross, Magearna and Zeraora. It can't deal much damage and relies on hax most of the time. Even its Z-move sets are easily dealt with a single Substitute or Taunt. Togekiss should get a drop.

I disagree. The reasons DEG moved it up in ORAS apply to SM as well. The SpDef set is strong, and while it loses to steel types it has more options vs them than Tapu Lele or Altaria. I wouldn't base anything off winrate.

B+ --> A-/A
As Charizard and Dragonite seemed to rule this pl. As a result, Anti-meta threats like Mew, Gardevoir, Metagross and Zygarde where active this tournament. For Genesect this meant for a clean sweep vs a lot of matchups as is shown from its high winrate of 65%. Genesect's typing, ability and movepool are great for covering Psychic-, Steel-, Water-, Grass- and Ground-types. The metachanges should therefore give rise to Genesect.

Genesect has always been this good. Again, I don't think winrate matters. I just think versatility is more important than ever now that there isn't an SM ladder.

B+ --> B
Donphan has not been a reliable part of the team this pl because it has a low winrate. It might act as a Charizard check but it often fails to do so. Also it relies on Z-Earthquake and Ice Shard and if those two don't ko, donphan will get kod. Donphan only really beats mons where his moves are Super-effective against because other mons will tank its hits, therefore Donphan should drop in Viability.

I've always thought Donphan was trash, tbh. You don't actually beat Zygarde, Lando-T, or Charizard and you're insanely predictable.

A+ --> S-
Similar to Victini, Mew has gained a lot of attention this pl. This is because it can be very frustrating to face on preview as it can run either a Stall set or an offensive one with one of the best Z-moves around. This pl I (re-)introduced a Z-Transform set that does do great too, even allowing Mew to beat Dark-types like Gyarados and Tyranitar as well as set-up mons like Meloetta and Genesect. Its long range in counters, great stats and variety in sets should give it enough reason to be part of the S-tier.

I just don't think it's that good. Maybe if Z-Transform was actually a lot better than I think it is, but I could only find the one game you lost with it. Bandit used Z-Transform last World Cup as well, but it won a game that stall Mew would've . A+ is high and accurately rates where it sits in the meta.

A --> A+
I haven't used Zygarde much this pl but from what I have heard is it a great mon. Power Construct allows Zygarde to outstall Stall and be one of the best Physical Walls in the meta, checking Charizardx. Its options go for the regular but still great Groundium-Z, to Dragonium-Z with Z-Dragon Dance (and even Poisonium-Z?). A mon that can't be avoided while teambuilding, as shown from its high usage.

I disagree. I think it is A rank including the Dragonium set, which was always known. Poisonium counts for its VR placement about as much as Fightinium Magearna counts for Magearna's placement.

S --> S-/A+
Gyarados has the lowest winrate of all compared to its usage. It's not a surprise. Gyarados is a straightforward mon that is good at wallbreaking and checking its fellow S-rank mons. But it also fails to live up to its high standards this pl as shown from its winrate. Therefore I'm leaning towards a drop.

Drop it even farther. Nearly everything since the beginning of SM has been working against it. There were posts in 2019 about dropping Gyarados from S. It should've dropped then and it has a long way to fall before it's accurately ranked.

A+ --> A
Although straightforward on preview, Greninja is a great lure with a broad versatility. Even though Choice Specs and Sub Petaya are its best set, there's nothing wrong with Choice Band Rock Slide to beat Charizard or Life Orb Shadow Sneak for Meloetta thanks to its Protean ability. The problem I have with this is that can't beat everything you want it to beat due to the lack of moveslots, therefore it being very limited in options. Also, a lot of mons are evd to tank a Greninja and counter in return like Kommo-o, Magearna and Metagross.

I disagree, especially since SM is only tours. Greninja can beat basically any Pokemon in the game 1v1. Just because you can't beat everything, doesn't mean it can't beat whatever your team needs it to. You can lure whatever you want with this, I would keep it A+.

A -->A-
Zeraora is also a highly used mon this pl, but it hasn't done well. The fact that Zeraora is bound to its Electrical movepool makes this mon very predictable. Even lure sets with Outrage or Choice Band still fail to succesfully counter the bulky Fairy and Psychic types this gen has to offer. Its odds vs Charizardx aren't in its favour either on top of that.

A lot of the pokemon that people are using to beat Zeraora aren't actually reliable counters. Metagross, Garchomp, Tyranitar, and Naganadel easily fall to Banded or Defensive Zeraora. I think the mixed attacking set is just a little predictable, and Zeraora has less counters than it seems.
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My Personal VR

• The Pokemon I didn't rank are on par with Lanturn. There's a lot of chaff in the VR.

S

Charizard X

Dragonite

A

A+

Charizard Y

Greninja

Metagross

A

Gardevoir

Zeraora

Zygarde

Serperior

]Tapu Fini

Victini

Heatran

Genesect

Mew

Tapu Lele

Porygon-Z

A-

Altaria-Mega

Togekiss

Primarina

Magearna

Mawile

Landorus-T

Gyarados

Garchomp

B

B+

Aegislash

Incineroar

Clefable

Meloetta

Manaphy

Lopunny

Deoxys-Speed

Tyranitar

Magnezone

Hoopa-Unbound

B

Kartana

Venusaur

Blaziken

Celesteela

Necrozma

Volcarona

Slaking

Ambipom

Medicham

Kyurem

Diancie

Registeel

B-

Sawk

Donphan

Sableye

Aggron

Pinsir

Tapu Bulu

Type: Null

Volcanion

Haxorus

Araquanid

Crustle

Heracross

C

C+

Naganadel

Jirachi

Carracosta

Pheromosa

Nihilego

Latias

Terrakion

Gallade

Muk-Alola

C

Archeops

Quagsire

Azumarill

Raikou

Shaymin

Golem

Gengar

Rotom-H

Thundurus-T

Alakazam

Pidgeot

C -

Porygon2

Krookodile

Swampert

Audino

Latios

Zapdos

Aerodactyl

Blacephalon

Blastoise

Landorus-I

Rhyperior

Suicune

Keldeo

Camerupt

Scrafty

Gigalith

D

Ferrothorn

Magneton

Whimsicott

Vivillon

Jumpluff

Infernape

Sceptile

Durant

Chansey

Buzzwole

Lucario

Pyukumuku

Weavile
Scizor

 

[RADU]

Appointing crucify as new BW leader and consequently dropping from the council

 

[DEG]

had fun building bw in pl so i know my stuff!! welcome to the 1v1pl bw metagame report!!

2.0% cutoff

Pokemon	Usage	Usage %	Win %
	Victini	51	27.42%	54.90%
	Keldeo	35	18.82%	40.00%
	Tyranitar	27	14.52%	59.26%
	Volcarona	20	10.75%	50.00%
	Jirachi	16	8.60%	37.50%
	Genesect	15	8.06%	60.00%
	Snorlax	14	7.53%	50.00%
	Latios	14	7.53%	50.00%
	Crustle	14	7.53%	42.86%
	Sableye	14	7.53%	42.86%
	Haxorus	14	7.53%	35.71%
	Manaphy	13	6.99%	30.77%
	Mew	12	6.45%	50.00%
	Chandelure	12	6.45%	50.00%
	Shaymin	11	5.91%	54.55%
	Metagross	11	5.91%	45.45%
	Jellicent	10	5.38%	60.00%
	Magnezone	9	4.84%	55.56%
	Cresselia	9	4.84%	44.44%
	Meloetta	9	4.84%	33.33%
	Thundurus	8	4.30%	62.50%
	Landorus-Therian	8	4.30%	62.50%
	Raikou	8	4.30%	50.00%
	Donphan	8	4.30%	50.00%
	Sawk	8	4.30%	12.50%
	Ferrothorn	7	3.76%	71.43%
	Scizor	7	3.76%	71.43%
	Togekiss	7	3.76%	42.86%
	Terrakion	6	3.23%	83.33%
	Zapdos	6	3.23%	66.67%
	Porygon-Z	6	3.23%	50.00%
	Hariyama	6	3.23%	50.00%
	Garchomp	6	3.23%	50.00%
	Scrafty	6	3.23%	50.00%
	Arcanine	5	2.69%	100.00%
	Heracross	5	2.69%	100.00%
	Gliscor	5	2.69%	80.00%
	Aerodactyl	5	2.69%	60.00%
	Celebi	5	2.69%	40.00%
	Hydreigon	5	2.69%	20.00%
	Thundurus-Therian	5	2.69%	20.00%
	Conkeldurr	4	2.15%	75.00%
	Rhyperior	4	2.15%	75.00%
	Starmie	4	2.15%	75.00%
	Archeops	4	2.15%	50.00%
	Torterra	4	2.15%	50.00%
	Suicune	4	2.15%	50.00%
	Latias	4	2.15%	50.00%
	Breloom	4	2.15%	50.00%
	Gengar	4	2.15%	25.00%
	Registeel	4	2.15%	25.00%
	Heatran	4	2.15%	25.00%

With the ban of Kyurem-Black and Dragonite, the BW 1v1 metagame has seen many changes:

a) Big Three.

The big three that took over the metagame were Victini, Keldeo, and Tyranitar. Both Tyranitar and Victini have impressive winrates, which is greater than 50%, while having high usage: 27% for Victini and 14% for Tyranitar. This shows the consistency of both Pokemon. Keldeo is in-between because it's a really good check for both but it's easier to counter that's why it has a low win rate. Adding to that, Victini and Tyranitar have more sets than Keldeo making them scarier while preparing.

b) Dragons

These are the main three Dragon-type Pokemon that took over the metagame after Dragonite and Kyurem-Black bans. Latios and Haxorus have both good usage rates meanwhile Garchomp isn't used as much. Latios has its typing and high speed being its positive traits as it allows it to effectively beat 2/3 of the big three: Victini and Keldeo. It also can run Calm Mind or Choice+Trick which makes it a threat. Haxorus on the otherside has a cool typing and can effectively defeat 3/3 of the big three with Unnerve+Superpower+Outrage and Choice Scarf but it's more iffy since it has to be wary of some sets such as: Icy Wind on Keldeo Victini sets with Glaciate. Garchomp falls in an awkward position, as it's not really that hard to counter and really Haxorus and Latios can patch more holes than Garchomp on a team, but it's still a nice Pokemon if you want to build around, it can use Choice Band+Fling or Swords Dance Custap.

c) Stall sets

Stall - or pure fat - sets are on the rise again. Sableye has been particularly an annoying Pokemon to deal with in this metagame as the combination of Prankster Will-o-Wisp and Calm Mind can allow it to stall a good portion of the metagame, only thing holding it back is its mediocre bulk and the horrendous Will-o-Wisp accuracy. Mew and Cresselia are two Psychic-types that have two fat sets, one of them being pure stallish, Wisp+Kee berry for Mew, and Reflect/Toxic+CM for Cresselia, and the other set is Trick+Scarf+Recovery which can effectively any offensively weak Pokemon. Both of these Pokemon were annoying that it made the metagame adapt harshly to them. Specially with Kyurem-Black and Dragonite being done, both Pokemon aren't forced to run max defensive sets to win so both of these Pokemon are mostly using the Trick+Choice set. On the otherside Registeel is a different kind of fat. Its great typing paired with its high bulk allows it to stall most Choice Pokemon that can't OHKO it, it has access to Counter for physical attackers and Amnesia to block special attackers with Seismic Toss, though Registeel is extremely prone to critical hits and thus it didn't see much usage.

d) Choice + Trick

With the rise of bulky offense, especially in a metagame where Mega stones and Z-moves aren't a thing, Trick+Choice bulky Pokemon have been the wave to easily fend them off. The trick behind these sets is tricking on the Pokemon utilizing Gem to win while recover stalling. These Pokemon also run coverage move so they're not really lost cause againt the other part of the metagame. Mew and Cresselia carries Ice Beam and Psychic, Mew also can carry a Fire-type move instead of Psychic. Ice Beam is very effective against Dragon-types, while Psychic is nice against Fighting-Types. Fire-type moves are ran for Steel-types like Genesect. Jellicent as a Ghost-type is an alternative to both and it can also beat both due its Ghost-typing, plus it has some better matchups like against Volcarona. With that being said, the metagame adapted by Fling or Dark-type Pokemon and this is where a big portion of Tyranitar usage comes from

e) The FALL of pressure stall.

With the prominence of Choice Scarf+Trick, Taunt users, and non-Choiced sets, pressure stall sets reign have ended. Suicune which was a top 5 Pokemon in previous PLs and WCs is now deep down with only 4 usage all tournament. Both Raikou and Aerodactly had more usages, 8 and 5, respectively. As a whole the percentage has tanked and they are no longer the threats they were. Both Raikou and Suicune might start using Choice Specs in future tournaments, but this is only a speculation.

f) Misc.

+UP
Chandelure is a nice Pokemon that has gained some traction with the departure of Dragonite and Kyurem-Black. It is one of the best counters to Victini, and also checks rising Steel-type Pokemon like Jirachi, Genesect, and Metagross.

+UP
Choice Band Snorlax is amazing!!! Its natural bulk is outstanding, and can have amazing coverage with elemental punches and Giga Impact. It hits like a truck and can beat a good portion of the metagame. It can beat Volcarona, Genesect, Latios and more which are highly ranked Pokemon.

+UP
This Pokemon is hard stopped by Victini otherwise it can tech for a bunch of Pokemon. Occa Berry, Choice Specs, and Choice Scarf are very solid sets. Its typing is really good and Occa Berry lets it fend off random Hidden Power Fire. Plus, it also has Extreme Speed to pick off Pokemon with low HP.

-DOWN +UP
It was being used a lot in previous tournaments but it's now outclassed by its other form. Thundurus has more speed which allows it to effectively defeat Keldeo and has Prankster for is quirky toxic sub fly custap berry set, so it's kinda a Pokemon where you have to guess sets. Thundurus-Therian can still be used for its wide coverage and Volt Absorb but its still rarely justifiable on a team right now.

oki im tired now, but i guess that's enough for a metagame report.

 

[DEG]

Double post since different topic.


As a person that built for PL, I think that Victini needs to be suspected. Now I don't think it should be necessarily banned but its a Pokémon that deserve discussion among players and specially the BW players. Victini has wrapped the metagame around it during PL after the ban of both Kyurem-Black and Dragonite. It has a plethora of sets and can run diverse EVs so it can pick its checks without losing much. It can use Choice Specs to destroy Pokemon that bulk for its V-create, and can utilize Grass Knot for its Rock-type checks like Rhyperior. It also can utilize Passho Berry + Bolt Strike for its Water-type Pokemon checks like non-bulky Keldeo.

Victini's best sets are V-Create+Will-o-Wisp Fire Gem and Shucca Berry, the first is used to neuter physically offensive Pokemon, and frail Pokemon that can get bopped with V-create notably Steel-types, while still having Bolt Strike for Water-Type Pokemon. While the second is Shucca Berry with a combination of Will-o-Wisp, Blue Flare, Glaciate and Grass Knot which targets Ground-type Pokemon like Garchomp and Rhyperior.

Its versatility coupled with its already two great sets wrapped the metagame around it this Premier League and might be too overcentralizing for the future of the metagame.

 

[crucify]

​

BW Council has decided to suspect Victini. After the ban of Dragonite in pl, Victini quickly emerged to be the next top mon in the metagame, getting used 51 times (a 27.42% usage rate) with a 54.9% winrate post Dragonite ban, with the next highest used mon being Keldeo, a mon that counters vict, used 35 times (18.82% usage rate). DEG's post does a good job of explaining what makes Victini so good, but to reiterate it here, Victini has two main sets that beat the majority of the metagame: Fire Gem and Shuca, which retain a lot of the same core mus through Victini’s typing and offensive movepool with access to moves like V-Create, Bolt Strike, Blue Flare, Glaciate, Grass Knot, and utility options such as Will-o-Wisp and Taunt. Shuca makes Victini be able to beat some of its would be counters such as custap rhyperior, garchomp, and landorus. Victini also has other less common options such as Ice Gem, Specs, and Passho Berry which all saw usage this pl. Victini’s strength and versatility combined with its high usage and win rate this pl has led us to believe that Victini is deserving of at least a suspect test. Reasoning for why this mon should not be banned are there exist multiple top tier, high usage counters to it, including but not limited to bulky Keldeo, Latios, Band Snorlax, and Tyranitar, all of which beat it reliably, and are top tier mons with or without Victini’s existence.

The voting requirements for this suspect will be 3+ wins in BW in the most recent 1v1pl or BW council.

If anyone has any thoughts they would like to share on Victini and whether it should stay or go, go ahead and share!

also bw has a new sets comp

 

[pqs]

Post-PL SM VR Shifts

Rises:
B -> B+
B- -> B
C -> C+
C -> C+
UR -> C+ (Nomination)
UR -> D (Nomination)

Drops:
S -> S-
B -> B-
B -> B-
C -> C-
C -> C-
D -> UR
D - UR

Feel free to share your thoughts on the changes! The individual votes can be accessed here.

 

[rumia]

okay but when are we banning dragonite

 

[Tol]

If there's anything we learned from this pl, it's that the 100 base stat in everything mons are really versatile and good. Absolutely agree with manaphy rise, would have liked to see vic maybe rise but it's okay where it is right now. I really don't think magearna is that great right now, it kind of just loses to a lot of things that have been on the come up. I think A+ is a much better spot for it than S-, or even A if you're feeling ballsy. I would put Mega Gyarados in that category as well. I just don't think it's S tier anymore. This isn't ladder, guys. Mega Gyarados has 0 versatility (item locked, has basically 0 way to change its matchups meaningfully other than a few fringe ones like I think taunt+ice fang beating zygod) and its once vaunted matchup spread isn't there anymore like it used to be. Being one of like 3 mons to beat every dragonite is cool I guess, but you don't even beat zard consistently which is the other best mon in the meta right now which sucks. I would drop it to A+ or A if I could. It's been the easiest thing to answer in the world for multiple years now, and consistency against a field is less valuable than it used to be in the days of ladder. I want Greninja to be busted so badly, but Specs not consistently beating Zards makes me just incredibly sad. I don't think it deserves S- like some on the VR council do. Zeraora is on the level of the mons in A+ and has been for quite some time, mixed electrium is incredibly good and it has versatility. Ban dragonite.

 

[LRXC]

ADV 1v1 HAS RECEIVED A TOTAL REVAMP


NEW SAMPLES


The Brokens Revamp, by LRXC


Bandgross + DoublePetaya, by crucify


Blissmence BUGGIN, by LRXC


Blastoise and the BOYS, by LRXC


Jurassic Waterpark, by LRXC


Kecleon and the LEGENDS, by LRXC

ABSOLUTELY GARGANTUAN SETS COMPENDIUM

-----> https://pokepast.es/05cb2edd8763caac <-----

GARBAGE VR IS NOW GOOD

(was so out of date i'm not even gonna do shifts lol)

Viability Rankings

S Rank
Marowak
Registeel
Zapdos

A+ Rank
Salamence
Metagross
Tyranitar
Raikou


A Rank
Blissey
Dusclops
Sceptile
Heracross
Alakazam
Regice
Ursaring
Charizard

A- Rank
Swampert
Vaporeon
Aerodactyl
Starmie
Blastoise
Houndoom

B+ Rank
Gyarados
Entei
Machamp
Celebi
Gengar
Blaziken
Walrein
Ludicolo
Regirock


B Rank
Jirachi
Medicham
Kecleon
Tauros
Jumpluff
Hariyama


B- Rank
Miltank
Typhlosion
Scizor
Lunatone
Venusaur
Armaldo
Jolteon
Moltres

C+ Rank
Flygon
Arcanine
Dodrio
Shedinja
Milotic
Porygon2
Dragonite

C rank
Skarmory
Poliwrath
Hypno
Sharpedo

C- Rank
Victreebel
Grumpig
Swellow
Ninjask
Breloom
Raichu
Jynx
Linoone

D rank (Theoretical/Needs Testing)
Dunsparce
Nidoqueen
Nidoking
Umbreon
Meganium
Crobat
Gardevoir
Rhydon
Vigoroth
Zangoose
Clefable
Stantler
Banette
Weezing
Steelix
Claydol
Slowbro
Slowking
Scyther
Granbull
Rapidash
Swalot
Forretress
Absol
Cradily
Hitmontop
Primeape

NEW SPEED TIERS
i dont feel like linking them

and a NEW COUNCIL featuring ADV DEFENDER PHIWINGS99, crucify, AND pqs

Now start playing, exploring, and innovating an amazing generation.

What else r u gonna do, play DPP? LOL​

 

[crucify]

NO more Victini (and RNG items)

Voting Results

Voter list (12): crucify, PA, Potatochan, Rosa, Palestine, Stable, Maki, Sanshokuinsumireko, eblurb, Freddy Kyogre, wanony, DEG

Ban (9): DEG, PA, Wanony, Rosa, Sanshokuinsumireko, Palestine, Freddy Kyogre, eblurb, crucify
Do not Ban (3): Potatochan, STABLE, Maki

With a 75% Supermajority, Victini is now banned from gen51v1!
BW Council also decided to follow SS 1v1 and ban the RNG items of brightpowder, lax incense, focus band, and quick claw, following the same logic as the SS council used.
tagging Kris to implement

 

[LRXC]

Did a little update to the Sets Compendium for ADV, realized that Seismic Toss Blissey is probably better than Counter right now with me getting people to run so many anti Counter Strategies, also reliably beats Raikou! For this reason Typhlosion gets lowered to B- cuz it literally only beats non Seismic Blissey lol

ALSO one sample has been replaced.

ADV is hype, STAY TUNED FOR AN ADV TOUR COMING SOOOON

and I will be uploading more ADV content soon :D

 

[Boat]

approved by LRXC and rest of council, he's just lazy to do it himself

bright powder, lax incense, quick claw, focus band, and king's rock are banned from adv 1v1 for the same reasons listed in this post. because Fling does not exist in ADV, king's rock falls into the same boat as the rest of them.

Kris please implement

 

[SuperMemeBroz]

Hello. I am bad a making samples but I wanted to make one for ADV cause I enjoy the tier a ton.

ADVIFTY ONE

Importable OG

https://pokepast.es/ee938b6180939db2

Description

Sceptile is the usual Petaya set. HP Ice for dragons.
Thunder punch is for Gyarados. Substitute is for overgrow leaf blade but for Petaya to activate for +1 in special so those moves that had a range in them definitely kill

Metagross is the Anti Sub stall set with Return for Raikou and Zapdos. It also beats normal adamant bulk metagross since it’s faster and EQ from adamant band never kills unless crit. A way to deal with Aerodactyl and Jolteon. Two Pokémon I was terrified against when making this team but Meta beats it with meteor mash and EQ respectively. I have hidden power flying for mons such as opposing sceptile and other grassies and fighties.

Hariyama is the Scope Lens one but instead of focus energy, I have Rock Slide for Charizard and Moltres and to make my matchup more safe, I added thick fat for it so fire damage and Ice damage does absolutely nothing. It may be crippled to will-o-wisp but it has bulk up to get it’s attack back up. HP Ghost for opposing ghost like Dusclops that carry it or Ice Beam which thick fat deals with. Cross Chop with the added crit boost to bypass all of Registeel’s defense boosts.

I had a lot of fun making this team and thanks for the set comp for giving me ideas on the Pokémon I chose and what they beat. Also the alien theme naming was fun and hopefully it gets accepted as a sample. :)

EDIT: Turns out this team had a 3-0 to Liechi Heracross. (Fake out into HP should beat it now) I’m still gonna leave the original link up and post this new one incase they somehow beat different things. S/o to smely and akuma for testing this team

Importable NEW

https://pokepast.es/c5c50274c49c290d

 

[LRXC]

Hello. I am bad a making samples but I wanted to make one for ADV cause I enjoy the tier a ton.

ADVIFTY ONE

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Description

Sceptile is the usual Petaya set. HP Ice for dragons.
Thunder punch is for Gyarados. Substitute is for overgrow leaf blade but for Petaya to activate for +1 in special so those moves that had a range in them definitely kill

Metagross is the Anti Sub stall set with Return for Raikou and Zapdos. It also beats normal adamant bulk metagross since it’s faster and EQ from adamant band never kills unless crit. A way to deal with Aerodactyl and Jolteon. Two Pokémon I was terrified against when making this team but Meta beats it with meteor mash and EQ respectively. I have hidden power flying for mons such as opposing sceptile and other grassies and fighties.

Hariyama is the Scope Lens one but instead of focus energy, I have Rock Slide for Charizard and Moltres and to make my matchup more safe, I added thick fat for it so fire damage and Ice damage does absolutely nothing. It may be crippled to will-o-wisp but it has bulk up to get it’s attack back up. HP Ghost for opposing ghost like Dusclops that carry it or Ice Beam which thick fat deals with. Cross Chop with the added crit boost to bypass all of Registeel’s defense boosts.

I had a lot of fun making this team and thanks for the set comp for giving me ideas on the Pokémon I chose and what they beat. Also the alien theme naming was fun and hopefully it gets accepted as a sample. :)

EDIT: Turns out this team had a 3-0 to Liechi Heracross. (Fake out into HP should beat it now) I’m still gonna leave the original link up and post this new one incase they somehow beat different things. S/o to smely and akuma for testing this team

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I enjoy the look of this team! I just wanted to start off by saying that Fake Out on Hariyama is a very cool idea, but here it doesn't actually work because Heracross can totally just SD in hariyama's face after the fake out and take it down with megahorn into reversal. This is also a very scary calc as we can't assume all crosses are gonna be no bulk 0 Atk Hariyama Hidden Power Ghost vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heracross: 75-89 (24.8 - 29.4%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO .

Another problem with the team is the assumption that thunderpunch sceptile is a gyarados answer. Problem with Tpunch on mons like Blaziken, Typhlosion, and Sceptile is that its a non STAB 75 base power attack coming off of not absurd SpA stats, so you get calcs like this 252 SpA Sceptile Thunder Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 285-336 (86.1 - 101.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO and this is assuming no bulk (a bad assumption) And while yes you can sub into petaya, the standard gyarados set (mine)((i think other options on gyarados can def be explored)), uses sub itself, and it turns into 50/50 wars with Gyarados in the drivers seat with DD and sub.

Only other big problem with the team I see is opposing metagross matchup is pretty yikes, but would be taken care of a lot better with Counter on Hariyama > Fake Out, and then maybe giving sceptile a cute way to lure in and outplay leichi heracross.

Keep exploring ADV!

 

[SuperMemeBroz]

PLANET POKE


This is my revamp from the sceptile/metagross/hari team but I feel like this team is better from the advice I got from LRXC

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Description

Gross and Hari’s purposes are fairly the same but I added Dusclops to beat most reversal mons and a lot of banded mons cause of funny counter and ice beam + Calm Mind for dragons and to take special hits better. Rest for recovery. What ever hari and gross don’t beat, Clops should. (Also iirc Metagross does beat the gyarados from the set comp but there’s probably a set idk about that beats it.)

I tried to make this team beat everything possible but unfortunately I’m probably gonna get 3-0d by something. But hopefully it’s an improvement to my original team. (I’m gonna have to study the adv guide a ton tomorrow lol.)

 

[SuperMemeBroz]

Crobat Being Ranked




While continuing my further investigation on ADV and knowing more about the tier, I’ve noticed thata lot of mons were D rank cause they weren’t tested yet. So I looked into these Pokémon and their move pool wasn’t the best but then I stumbled around Crobat. It’s a Pokémon that’s tied with Jolten/Aerodactyl for being the fastest Pokémon so I decided to make a set that would make it somewhat viable

Set

Crobat @ Choice Band
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Sludge Bomb
- Aerial Ace
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Shadow Ball

I have Aerial Ace and sludge bomb for stab. HP Rock so it can beat Fire types like Charizard, Moltres and other flying types. Shadow ball for stuff like Alakazam and Gengar so I have listed every Pokémon Crobat can beat in the set comp.

WHAT CROBAT BEATS

Every Sceptile
Every Heracross
Every Alakazam
Both Charizards
Camo Starmie
Every Gengar but Counter
Both Entei (maybe)
Rain Dance Ludicolo
Encore Machamp
Scope Lens Hariyama
Both Celebi
Every Blaziken (+1 Salac isn’t fast enough)
Jumpluff
Kecleon
Every Medicham
Both Moltres
Venusaur
Shedinja lol
Dodrio (half of the time)
Victreebel
Both Jynx
Bright Powder Ninjask (ayo wtf)
Swellow
It annihilates Breloom
Linoone

Very underrated mon in my opinion.

 

[LRXC]

YO

I MADE A VERY LONG VIDEO EXPLAINING THE WHOLE SETS COMPENDIUM

 

[Boat]

a couple corrections on my sets in that video

there is an alternate Band zapdos set that is better imo, being faster than gyarados is important. only use the 252 ada spread if u really need a regice beater, cause tyranitar can bulk max attack anyway.
Zapdos @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 192 HP / 52 Atk / 16 Def / 36 SpA / 212 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drill Peck
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Double-Edge

the liechi mence set is indeed for tyranitar, you bulk a +1 rock slide and sand.

the defensive investment on regice is really good and it should honestly be the main spread. most aerodactyls should be Jolly OR pressure stall (which regice also beats). you are only losing to adamant band. the defensive investment also is necessary for +1 gyarados flail. the extra special attack doesnt beat anything in specific, you should be solidifying your gyara, wak, and aerodactyl investment. like even if u are losing to ada band, its still better odds and the extra spa does nothing.

jumpluff is anti stall, it does not beat regice like he said fsr. it beats dusclops, blissey, pert, zapdos, registeel, vaporeon.

 

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Akumajou has been added as the newest member to the SM VR Council! Congratulations!

 

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[SuperMemeBroz]

Why hello everyone I’m back again to show a new underdeveloped Pokémon in advance 1v1 which isn’t my creation. Full props go to Potatochan for this set.

Set

Demon (Clefable) @ Ganlon Berry
Ability: Cute Charm
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 200 Def / 60 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder Wave
- Soft-Boiled
- Seismic Toss
- Encore

Here is Clefable. It gets access to thunder wave for speed prioritizing the first turn and what makes it better is thunder wave hits electrics this gen so you can outplay the likes of Zapdos and Raikou who spam sub and speaking of which, it gets the all powerful encore that can beat beat sub mons most of the time. Soft boil for instant recovery and seismic toss to slowly break down the enemy. Para hax at its finest. The berry is for extra defense for those banded mons. Then thunder wave soft boil then inevitable stoss. Registeel ain’t got shit of the predecessor to Togekiss.

 

[SuperMemeBroz]

ANTI Z

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Description

Ursaring does ursaring stuff like beat Blissey, Zapdos and Raikou with return. Swords dance to power up moves like earthquake to beat regirock, Tyranitar, and opposing Dusclops. Banded hp ghost loses to counter but a 6+ EQ will beat a 252 HP/212+ Def Dusclops with counter. Also it beats stuff like petaya overgrown leaf blade sceptile and zam. Hyper beam for powerful stab plus sd to beat Regice and like I mentioned before, 6 EQ to potentially beat some Registeel sets and some counter sets that band doesn’t beat.

Mence is special this time with stab dragon claw, Fire blast to beat gross and Scizor with charcoal, hydro pump to beat stuff like maro. Hp grass for pert. Not much I can really say other than it being a powerful special attackers for the team. Indtimidate is a great ability, allowing it to beat opposing silk scarf ursaring. Heracross, Hariyama, some Blaziken, etc.

Dusclops is usually there what the other two don’t beat like banded mons with counter. It Blastoise, Zard if they’re carding hp ice, leech stall, Crobat, Clefable can’t touch it. It has pressure so it usually is caplable of beating other stall mons with it packing rest. Ice beam for its only really attacking move for opposing mence and with calm mind to make it more powerful. What makes Dusclops better is the typical Registeel set literally can’t touch it (the one with stoss but you should always counter turn 1 in case it’s banded)

I had a fun time making this sample and hopefully the ADV VR Council accepts it.

 

[SuperMemeBroz]

SCYTHER BEING NOMINATED



I’ve used scyther in the duos Swiss tournament and I must say it’s a really good mon and even giving me a win so here are some sets I came up with as well as the final verdict as what rank scyther should be

Sub Reversal

Sub Reversal (Scyther) @ Liechi Berry
Ability: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Aerial Ace
- Substitute
- Reversal

This set is really good but it’s not really that special to me, I think Scizor and heracross the reversal thing better but scyther can beat heracross with aerial ace. You can also beat stuff. I don’t like band at all cause you can’t use the full potential of swarm but I think this set is very solid

Anti Zard

Anti Zard (Scyther) @ Liechi Berry
Ability: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Substitute
- Aerial Ace
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Silver Wind

This set is probably my favorite set cause it beats Charizard. Something that Scizor can’t do. You still have aerial ace but you have silver wind this time. Although it might be weaker, you can get the boost. I got a win with this set round 2 of duos swiss sans it’s a hilarious Charizard lure it’s even more funny how Scizor can’t beat it (even +1 salac with max speed, you’ll probably still lose since Zard can outplay and most cards have max speed so you almost never outspeed)

Anti Zard/Reversal

Anti Zard/Reversal (Scyther) @ Liechi Berry
Ability: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Aerial Ace
- Reversal
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Substitute

This set is the combination of the first two sets, beating Zard while also having reversal to beat stuff like Tyranitar and Blissey, Regice even. It’d be fun if people are predicting what set it is. I definitely could see it be ran. (Silver Wind + Reversal is illegal)

FINAL VERDICT:
I think scyther should be in the C+ category. You can argue it’s a worse Scizor since it’s B- and that’s partly why I’m putting scyther here but it can do stuff Scizor can’t do like beat zard. It can also deal with nom match ups like Alakazam, Petaya Sceptile, he’ll even Starmie even. I feel as though it has a lot of good nieches to it rather than it being a worse Scizor. They even have the same base stat total but just spreaded differently. I do think scyther is an underrated Pokémon in ADV. Even more than Crobat.

 

[SuperMemeBroz]

SMASH MONS

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Description

My boy Heracross. He’s the mon to secure the regi mu as well as Dusclops with ss outpacing calm mind and ice beam, reversal for powerful stab, megahorn to have the better Clefable match up. Substitute and reversal to beat things like Swampert and t tar with its good attack stat

This Zapdos set was designed to have a better match up for Alakazam, Jirachi, and Entei with agility, metal sound outpacing calm mind, and then sub petaya thunderbolt. This also has the evs to take an ADAMANT aerodactyl rock slide so this team doesn’t get 3-0d. Also does Zapdos things like beating matchups it already had before and having metal sound to make it easier. Beating stuff like tauros, opposing heracross, Crobat, Scyther (lol). A mon that definitely solidified itself as one of the best Pokémon in ADV 1v1

Regice does Regice things like beat Sceptile and this beats every sceptile set, it annihilates jumpluff, Salamence, a good staller and seismic toss for the pressure stall Zapdos and Raikou matchup with rest to outlast leech stall to beat Celebi.

I really like how this turned out and hope it’s better than my last sample submission with less guessing match ups and more straight forward match ups.

 

[SuperMemeBroz]

SMASH MONS v2



I spent the last 20 hours trying to make a sample team so I’m just gonna try to be brief here.

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Description

I talked about Clefable before but the combination of t wave plus encore andhealing is terrifying and can beat notable threats like Registeel,Zapdos, Raikou, Leech Stall, all of the sort.

Raikou has hp ice for Salamence, Crunch for Raikou and Gengar as well as Dusclops, calm mind to beat other special attackers.

Scizor has SD and decent enough bulk for maro, gross and Heracross, Steel wing for rock types like aero and Maldo, hp bug for stuff like Celebi. Quick attack to beat salac mons or sub into petaya mons like Starmie.

Took me 20 hours (Most of yesterday and all of today at this point) to make this sample. If it doesn’t get accepted, it’s fine and I’ll try to make another one, (probably in a few weeks since I didn’t get any sleep and was thinking about what was I gonna use here)