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2013 Smogon Fantasy Hockey
- Thread starter Carl
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After 2 weeks, here are our category leaders:
Goals - Kishimoto (31)
Assists - Vincent (46)
+/- - Vincent (+25)
PPP - Aldaron (30)
SOG - Kishimoto/Justin (234)
Hits - Carl (116)
Wins - Justin (11)
GAA - WER (1.28)
SV% - WER (.958)
Goals - Kishimoto (31)
Assists - Vincent (46)
+/- - Vincent (+25)
PPP - Aldaron (30)
SOG - Kishimoto/Justin (234)
Hits - Carl (116)
Wins - Justin (11)
GAA - WER (1.28)
SV% - WER (.958)
Almost as indicative as http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/standings
That too, but I was also kinda curious to see how the stats stack up so far (even though yes it is early). =]
I have 5 D-men. We have to be able to work something out. I sent you a fair offer to get things rolling.
Might pick up Mason, he's on a winning streak (1 in a row)!
Shoot me an offer. I tried coming up with some but I have a feeling you wouldn't go for any of them.
OrbitingDeath
formerly SkylarGreen
He's definitly Vezina bound now, getting his 1st win after being dropped.
Elliott repayed me with a shutout, so not complaining.
Keep failing Halak.
I'm getting severely boned because of Halak, and it doesn't help that I'm missing out on Markstrom.
OrbitingDeath
formerly SkylarGreen
Halak should be in net again tonight, hope for you he does well. Rooting for being pulled myself ;)
OK so speaking of trades I'm looking to make a move that can go in one of several directions but I'm not sure what other people are looking for enough to fire off too many offers so maybe it'll work better if you guys come to me.
I am particularly looking to trade: one of Doughty, Weber, and Burns. I am, however, plenty aware that they are all young and reasonably strong multicategory producers to the point that over they'll probably all be top 10 dmen over the next few years so I would expect reasonable value back given that everyone will be keeping 1-2 defenseman a year given the suggested keeper rules.
I am mostly looking for: Couture+Defenseman to upgrade C, Defenseman or Gagne+Defenseman to upgrade LW, Rolly+Defenseman to upgrade G. I will also entertain other upgrades involving dropping a defenseman but it'd have to be for players I suspect aren't going to be moved. Anyone I get back for this would need to be someone I'd keep or it'd defeat the purpose of the deal.
Always willing to entertain other offers but focusing on the above. Everyone available except Lundqvist, Malkin, and RNH unless they're overpaid for.
I am particularly looking to trade: one of Doughty, Weber, and Burns. I am, however, plenty aware that they are all young and reasonably strong multicategory producers to the point that over they'll probably all be top 10 dmen over the next few years so I would expect reasonable value back given that everyone will be keeping 1-2 defenseman a year given the suggested keeper rules.
I am mostly looking for: Couture+Defenseman to upgrade C, Defenseman or Gagne+Defenseman to upgrade LW, Rolly+Defenseman to upgrade G. I will also entertain other upgrades involving dropping a defenseman but it'd have to be for players I suspect aren't going to be moved. Anyone I get back for this would need to be someone I'd keep or it'd defeat the purpose of the deal.
Always willing to entertain other offers but focusing on the above. Everyone available except Lundqvist, Malkin, and RNH unless they're overpaid for.
just wanted to mention that also included in the trade between me and kaleb is me giving up a 4th round pick next year if I finish in the top 6 or a 3rd round pick if I finish in the bottom 6 (based on 8 keepers) or if we do auction next year, 15% of whatever the base amount is.
Ya I thought the trade was solid, it breathes some life into the league.
When the fuck did we agree that trading picks or any future considerations was an acceptable thing in this league? I always disagreed with it when it was proposed as an idea, it's not something that's ever been done before and I find it hard to suddenly have to accept it now, presented as it is, which is apparently an already done deal. What the fuck?
It is a system that can be abused. A trade should always come with a penalty, in that you're giving something to get something else in return. There needs to be some amount of risk involved for both teams. For a bottom dweller team by week 15, there is no penalty to trading your non-keeper assets for draft picks ; you're not effectively giving anything in return for the advantage you get the next season. There is no reason to emulate the NHL trade system this way, as I remember seeing that brought up as an argument. We're not the NHL, we're just some yahoo fantasy league.
To my knowledge, we've never had a vote about this and there was never any of our commish that made it clear he would impose it as part of our rules.
I've never veto'd a trade before, this one will be my first.
I don't plan on vetoing this trade. It isn't an unfair one. Maybe if a bottom dweller tried to trade his players to a winner for draft picks, then I would consider vetoing it. In this case it is a completely fair trade, so I'm not sure what you're so mad about.
You're an idiot and quite frankly missed the point entirely.
I didn't even look at the players involved in that trade. It simply has nothing to do with whatever this particular trade is unfair or not. I'm annoyed that we make something possible now that wasn't before without consulting the people in the league. I'm annoyed that two owners made up a rule out of the blue that to my knowledge didn't get anyone's consent.
And yeah, I veto it because I've always much disliked that idea of trading for future considerations, one that never went beyond being just an idea before it was suddenly imposed by two of the coaches.
I didn't even look at the players involved in that trade. It simply has nothing to do with whatever this particular trade is unfair or not. I'm annoyed that we make something possible now that wasn't before without consulting the people in the league. I'm annoyed that two owners made up a rule out of the blue that to my knowledge didn't get anyone's consent.
And yeah, I veto it because I've always much disliked that idea of trading for future considerations, one that never went beyond being just an idea before it was suddenly imposed by two of the coaches.
Thanks for the insult. I didn't miss your point.
And at the risk of making myself look like an idiot, here is a link for the discussion we had about trading draft picks/money: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79913&highlight=fantasy+hockey&page=9
And at the risk of making myself look like an idiot, here is a link for the discussion we had about trading draft picks/money: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79913&highlight=fantasy+hockey&page=9
I do agree with Vincent that it is a bit meh for this type of strategy to be considered legal without further discussion (especially since in the few posts Justin linked it seems like there was no positive affirmation reached).
However, I'm not vetoing because I actually really do like the trade for both sides and I'm going to go ahead and assume the people in this league won't be dicks about the potential to game this concept (please don't use "playing within the rules" to game it -_-).
However, I'm not vetoing because I actually really do like the trade for both sides and I'm going to go ahead and assume the people in this league won't be dicks about the potential to game this concept (please don't use "playing within the rules" to game it -_-).
OrbitingDeath
formerly SkylarGreen
I thought the trade was fine without the 'future considerations', should just scrap that and continue? BC gets the players that will be better in the future (both are young and improving) and I assume he plans on keeping both.
Kaleb gets the better players now, but they are old and might not be playing on the same level in a year or two.
Kaleb gets the better players now, but they are old and might not be playing on the same level in a year or two.