MikeDawg
Banned deucer.
the current state of u.s. politicsbitch slap losers like cloud boot jar and booty judge.
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the current state of u.s. politicsbitch slap losers like cloud boot jar and booty judge.
I think inmates should be able to vote, and some of the candidates probably do as well, but saying yes when someone asks you if the boston bomber should vote on live television is stupid as fuck. Say "no" or "we should have that conversation" depending on your position, then move on.3 out of 4 Americans loathed bernie Saunders plan to allow prison inmates to vote. Welp that's gonna cost him some reputation.
That's really REALLY dumb ngl if you commit a crime you forfeit all your constitutional freedoms. Any reason why the constitutional right to vote should be excepted?
No. I don't think so.
Let me get this straight.I think inmates should be able to vote, and some of the candidates probably do as well, but saying yes when someone asks you if the boston bomber should vote on live television is stupid as fuck. Say "no" or "we should have that conversation" depending on your position, then move on.
On that note, the biggest problem with the "purity" (ie stan) politics movement is that in order to effect change, you need to get elected. Turns out, you can say "maybe" when someone asks you a loaded or unpopular question to retain votes, then fight for that issue once you actually have the power to do so.
It's almost like there's a difference between campaigning and leading.
The question is phrased poorly, as is your hypothetical. Better hypothetical is should possessing a couple ounces of marijuana disqualify someone from voting. The answer is obviously no.Let me get this straight.
A convicted murderer is arrested and is in jail for the rest of his life.
His victim lost his right to vote permanently (because he is dead) yet the murderer should keep his.
Irony of 2019 my good sir.
No. You commit a crime you're done. You have no business interacting with the outside world at all. It's called a prison for a reason.
It’s about human psychology. You can keep pretending that other things like policy matter in how humans decide who to follow. You’re fighting nature. That’s a futile endeavor.hmm yeah maybe time to start in on that self reflection rather than calling ppl that actually make arguments russians: this idea that alpha males will protect us from each other is the basis of authoritarianism across history. I won't go into how your post evidences the internalization of this idea because it is evident. Some extensions of this ideology lies in incelism, school shooterisms, and just general patriarchal male behavior where men are obsessed with this fantasy leading to its becoming reality: as men cannot fathom that women can win or even deserve a place, in a competition that is supposed to be about the triumphing of alpha males. Stop trying to be the hero, or find heros for others, stop trying to save other people, and focus on yourself, and even saving yourself isn't worth so much energy if you're just giving yourself up to another fate.
it's time for ppl to grow up and stop looking for octogenarian 'alpha males' to save them, particularly men who grew up on the internet
I vehemently disagree with the idea of surrendering human rights because one committed a crime. Bernie Sanders is correct for two reasons:3 out of 4 Americans loathed bernie Saunders plan to allow prison inmates to vote. Welp that's gonna cost him some reputation.
That's really REALLY dumb ngl if you commit a crime you forfeit all your constitutional freedoms. Any reason why the constitutional right to vote should be excepted?
No. I don't think so.
So by your logic someone who commits a crime, for example let's say failed to pay a parking ticket, is no longer entitled to the freedom of due process, freedom of religion, or freedom of speech.3 out of 4 Americans loathed bernie Saunders plan to allow prison inmates to vote. Welp that's gonna cost him some reputation.
That's really REALLY dumb ngl if you commit a crime you forfeit all your constitutional freedoms. Any reason why the constitutional right to vote should be excepted?
No. I don't think so.
Then maybe he should say "i believe non violent criminals should retain their right to vote" not "the boston bomber should be able to vote"The question is phrased poorly, as is your hypothetical. Better hypothetical is should possessing a couple ounces of marijuana disqualify someone from voting. The answer is obviously no.
"if you commit a crime you forfeit you forfeit all your constitutional freedoms" this is both demonstrably false and morally indefensible tho. demonstrably false because you typically still have a right to live, freedom of thought and expression, etc when you get convicted of a crime, morally indefensible because human rights are typically considered universal and unalienable, they're not to be bargained with for no reason other than "well i don't think you deserve them." however, of course there are situations in which your basic rights can be suspended if they are in conflict with another person's basic rights. when i point a loaded gun at someone else, i am threatening their right to live, bodily integrity and whatnot, so in this case it can be argued that i can be physically harmed and/or restrained (harming my basic rights) with the intent of preventing me from violating another person's rights (and if im deemed dangerous i may be locked up for a longer time, losing my right to free movement, because i may otherwise violate other people's rights again).3 out of 4 Americans loathed bernie Saunders plan to allow prison inmates to vote. Welp that's gonna cost him some reputation.
That's really REALLY dumb ngl if you commit a crime you forfeit all your constitutional freedoms. Any reason why the constitutional right to vote should be excepted?
No. I don't think so.
because laws are sometimes made specifically targeted to disenfranchise certain segments of the population (like drug laws)3 out of 4 Americans loathed bernie Saunders plan to allow prison inmates to vote. Welp that's gonna cost him some reputation.
That's really REALLY dumb ngl if you commit a crime you forfeit all your constitutional freedoms. Any reason why the constitutional right to vote should be excepted?
No. I don't think so.
Bernie dropping in the polls was because of Biden gaining more vote share from declaring. What Bernie said won’t hurt him much if any. Echoing the others, he should have pivoted or answered the question with a question about nonviolent offenders.Then maybe he should say "i believe non violent criminals should retain their right to vote" not "the boston bomber should be able to vote"
I mean i still like bernie more than the rest of the field but this was really dumb and he's suffering in the polling because of it. He went from being tied with biden for top odds to a tier below.
lol, cmon, you got found out for having nothing, you equate 'political skill' w being an alpha male and i've seen in our discussion that it turns for you political skill is just whiteness and maleness. political skill and policy cannot be completely separated, all the power of the alpha male is just an illusion masking the establishment's incompetence, if you give people something else to put their confidence in, perhaps they'll come around.It’s about human psychology. You can keep pretending that other things like policy matter in how humans decide who to follow. You’re fighting nature. That’s a futile endeavor.
And nice try with the ad hominem attack. I’ve obviously stated my personal choice in this thread yet you found a way to attack my objective analysis of political skill and why it is more important to voters than policy. Ignore these concepts at your peril.
Political skill has nothing to do with whiteness. Keep shoving your progressive purity in the faces of America voters and they will keep running to Republicans selling them snake oil.lol, cmon, you got found out for having nothing, you equate 'political skill' w being an alpha male and i've seen in our discussion that it turns for you political skill is just whiteness and maleness. political skill and policy cannot be completely separated, all the power of the alpha male is just an illusion masking the establishment's incompetence, if you give people something else to put their confidence in, perhaps they'll come around.
a way better argument would have been just asserting that more center candidates appeals to a conservative population, but i keep forgetting, policy doesn't matter right
This image is deliberately misleading, and your reason for posting it is willfully misinformed.
1. Already debunked in this thread
Thats because they called people on landlines. Only old people have landlines. Also you cant just not include people under 45 as part of the voter base