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Thetwinmasters said:
You aren't risking reducing the village numbers we are going to lynch today otherwise we need 2 no lynches to live an extra day which does nothing and you refusing to commit to anything is scummy as fuck
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I never said village should no lynch today. I previously wanted no influence on the village lynch if they can decide for themselves. Idk about the math that we need 2 no lynch to survive an extra day, but I just felt like having less wrong deaths were better. I could be wrong but no one actually said anything about it so how would I know ? I'm personally never convinced in any games I've played that mislynch > no lynch. That's how it has been for all the games I played, you can check if you want lol. Does that instantly mean I'm scummy already?

I'm not liking DLE's response. If you're going to idle all the way to EOD, how is that healthy for the rest of the players in the game. It's just conveniently avoiding everything until the point where you want it to. Also I'd like to point out that DLE has been nothing but wishy washy? Everything that he has said has been I feel this I feel that, not much reasons or valid reasons for whatever he feels. He's just cherry picking whatever the heck he wants and never decided on anything properly.

Instantly calling out Whydon as guilty in D2 start and then simply says he feels fine now? Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa not buying that. And if that's what you feel, why the heck would you so publicly claim that Whydon is guilty in the first place? A bait? A what? For the record I have nothing against Whydon. But I think other players have done better for his defense than you just saying that he feels fine and consistent now. Like okay that's it? After what you've said?

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And yes I'm p sure twin is town for that matter, no matter how much our views don't agree. I'm not going to convince you to unlynch me, partly because I know I can't, and no this is not a resign, just the fact that no one else is even voting and not everyone might agree on that matter.

vote dle

Despite all the d1 poke he has done, I don't think he actually made himself vulnerable to anything, and handled the empoof/jalmont thing pretty poorly. I don't think anyone should take his word for anything if all he's going to say is what he feels without properly supporting his things. Other than his opinions, I don't think he offered much and opinions are just opinions without valid supporting arguments.

Also Aubisio and whoever are simply not getting punished by being completely absent or non-relevant in content. Maybe I'll decide on just Aubisio next cycle if that even happens. Call it frustration votes or what. But I'm just sticking with the DLE vote to call him out and idk if anyone else would agree on that. I'd personally feel like lynching DLE myself is just suicide for me but w/e, I'm going for the village/mastermind thing Empoof mentioned, and something I have agreed with since d1.

However, if King_ or whoever wants to vote Aubisio, I am willing to do that since nobody said anything and mislynching Aubisio probably doesn't make as much a difference compared to another mislynch. Aubisio was the first person I suspected, and am willing to roll with it if no other villager actually wants to be involved.
 
Holy shit, sandshrewz he wasn't going to vote today but then pulls up a IDLE lynch when other fuckers are being more useless but DLE already had a vote on him. GUILTY Ace Attorney Power Activate - Sandshrews is GUILTY
 
Yeah this game is back burner for me compared to the game I'm actually hosting.

I can't wait for Hydra DLE so we can stop doubting each other and start working together instead.

I brought up the pro con list because I wanted to see who'd defend you and who'd accuse you and give each of them proper ammunition. I'm never trying to lynch you today but autoclearing you can be dangerous with respect to realistic partners.

DLE can you explain the townread on twin a little better?

So much anti town play all around that it can't all come from scum. I'm going out but I'll be phonepostin
 
I wasn't going to vote if the deadline was over. I have no idea if my vote even counts, and if deadline is even over given no post from Walrein.

But I really really don't agree with DLEs post. And lol it's inconsistent as e_e if one guy says I shouldn't be not voting, and then another says I shouldn't be if I already said so. Either way someone is going to call me out on that so w/e.

I'm still going to call out on dle unless you guys want to hammer aubisio.
 
Oh shit Sandshrewz is actually doing something.

Their vote actually reminded me that I was gonna iso DLE and never did. Getting to that now

King_ said:
Holy shit, sandshrewz he wasn't going to vote today but then pulls up a IDLE lynch when other fuckers are being more useless but DLE already had a vote on him. GUILTY Ace Attorney Power Activate - Sandshrews is GUILTY
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I'm actually gonna play devil's advocate a little here and mention that we've been ragging on Sandshrewz all game to make a choice.

Also, Sandshrewz, what about Aubisio makes you think they might be scum?
 
DLE is 60/40 town-mafia imo 100% not the lynch today but he shouldn't be auto cleared like some people are doing only people who are okay lynches today in my mind are sandshrewz, shubaka, aubisio, and tropius(but other people don't like this vote)
 
Re oddish, firstly thanks for risking yourself and giving me a chance.

Aubisio as I said in d1 has been permanently off radar and his posts only made him look active without taking a single side on any matter. I don't really want to say this but if he's just going to lurk without actually reasoning, a mislynch on him is a lesser loss for lynch, though I'd rather not mislynch over anything. I still want to question dle but if that's not working out, aubisio is currently second best option for me. I don't think he even attempted to properly clear himself or anything and has just been a phantom in this game. No idea why.

But yea of he's going to permanently afk or something then that's the minimal loss for a mislynch. And if he can go unpunished for so long, I'm just getting the feel that there's a chance mafia has been changing the topic well enough and getting the attention elsewhere.
 
Thetwinmasters said:
DLE is 60/40 town-mafia imo 100% not the lynch today but he shouldn't be auto cleared like some people are doing only people who are okay lynches today in my mind are sandshrewz, shubaka, aubisio, and tropius(but other people don't like this vote)
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I like the 60-40 odds you brought up. Anyway I highly doubt my vote on him would get him lynched and that was one way of me voting without accidentally screwing up for everyone else if everything is just going to tie at 1 anyway. I previously mentioned it wasn't worth the risk testing dle for town/mastermind this early, but I haven't been convinced that dle is towny since that.

Also speaking of shub yea he has been pretty gone too. But overall probably less than Aubisio so hence the Aubisio wagon possibly.
 
Alright here is the math for 1 no lynch vs mislynch
No lynch: 9-4->8-4>6-4 MYLO
1 Mislynch 9-4->7-4->5-4 LYLO
we just waste a lynch
Also everybody else just read sandshrewz's post in the last 5 pages and look how scummy he is lol
 
Thetwinmasters said:
Alright here is the math for 1 no lynch vs mislynch
No lynch: 9-4->8-4>6-4 MYLO
1 Mislynch 9-4->7-4->5-4 LYLO
we just waste a lynch
Also everybody else just read sandshrewz's post in the last 5 pages and look how scummy he is lol
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Thanks for explaining. So this is the last mislynch we can afford before cutting it by another cycle?

Thetwinmasters said:
Also I never said whydon was guilty he reads noob town to me also Walrein please sub out coconut zzzzzzz
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Not sure if directed at me, I was referring to dle's post early d2
 
Since this is probably one last mislynch we can have,

unvote, vote auibisio

Going for the minimal risk mislynch that has been bugging me since d1. Reasons etc as previously mentioned.

Let's be realistic and say that dle is not going to be lynched for sure this cycle whoever I vote for. But I've did what I wanted and brought up the possibility so that's suffice for now.
 
@Somewhat Oddish I scumread both of them and don't think sandshrewz votes a partner so close to deadline. I don't get the sense that sandshrewz is the kind of player to bus a partner unless they have to (aka I got it right on all 3 of shubaka/aubisio/sandshrewz). Considering I think sandshrewz' d2 has been actively scummy as compared to Aubisio's lurkfest, I'd rather vote for the active one
 
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