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NOC a nice basic game of actual mafia - game over - won by the Mafia

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Those reads by FH are really weird he just sticks the other 2 suspects then puts on pancake for subbing a lot and dle/oddish before shubaka
I'm 99% sure Haruno FH Shubaka is who we should lynch and its not those 3 its between aubisio/dle probably more likely aubisio
 
Yeah, pancake has no real reason to be on Former Hope's scumlist. Being subbed a bunch of times doesn't mean jack shit, especially when you consider that the only person who really posted anything out of all those subs is Mithril.

Also Aubisio how can you not have a reasoning
 
For clarity, the third spot on my mafia list is filled with a "guilty before innocent" mindset in that I haven't tracked that roles spot enough to feel one way or another so by virtue, higher chance they are scum than someone I feel is probably town.
 
I think lynching Haruno just for being tropius' peek is a really bad idea. I think his almost nonexistent d2 and quickhammer d3 are better reasons to consider voting him, but his d1 was actually made a lot townier when empoof flipped town; a lot of the scumread I had on him them was based on a simultaneous scumread of empoof and them being on a team together.

I'm more willing to entertain the other read of you being spewed town by tropius. I'm gonna do an iso on tropius later tonight to see how I feel about it since I don't remember exactly what she said.
 
shubaka17 said:
>anything that happened D3
>D3 shouldn't matter for your read on me

seriously? am I missing some greater context, or is this just scummy?
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I led a vote on publicly confirmed mafia assuming king isn't terrible at mafia. FH said he wanted to town read me for doing this.

Literally anyone could do this.

This is not something anyone should be townreading me for. They should be townreading me for my desire for activity d1 and my understandable emotion in avoiding the thread d2 after seeing a top town read of mine push another top town read of mine to reveal more information on their role. These are things I do as town. Voting for tropius is something I do as either alignment.
 
Former Hope said:
For clarity, the third spot on my mafia list is filled with a "guilty before innocent" mindset in that I haven't tracked that roles spot enough to feel one way or another so by virtue, higher chance they are scum than someone I feel is probably town.
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...If you don't feel one way or another, shouldn't you be neutral then? Why automatically assume they're more likely to be guilty than innocent?
 
Aubisio for the sake of the argument it was basically just that i don't see twin or myself killing king on n2. I feel like everyone else in this game except a dead Blazade and a newly subbed in pancake just kills king at the first sign of "oh no a guilty on one of us!" It's a newer, less aggressive mindset.
 
Yeah anyone can, but if you could remember that fact and yet were mafia, you could choose to ignore it and focus efforts elsewhere as a distraction. For me personally calling for activity is more of an anyone thing since it's less 'sidey' and makes the person seem more town, yet doesn't do anything to harm the mafia (well directly). Then again, that's my assumptions and I assume someone with more NOC experience would think differently.

SomewhatOddish Notice I use the term 'mafia list' than 'scum list'. In that there are 3 mafia and thus if I don't have anyone directly in mind for the third spot, it's logical to narrow down the choices. Removing the people I see as most town until I have just the few people that could be. For example, you and VPP are on the list just because I don't know your playstyles well enough to think of you as town, hence you are greater candidates to be the 3rd mafia than say Whydon who I now think is town from my theory being wrong.
 
Thetwinmasters said:
Haruno is actually so obvious scum its sad
and I think tropius cleared me and king_ in her scum reads cause we put pressure on her but her peak on haruno being gulity was so random it was like once haruno got lynched she wanted to look like a cop but not mentioning haruno in this post http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...tual-mafia-day-3.3581829/page-16#post-6986724 50/50 on whydon being clear I think he is more dumb town to me
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Are you trying to tell me that tropius as a mafia member hard claimed cop indicting another mafia member which makes no rational sense. Assuming I am mafia, it wouldn't show shit since tropius as a mafia member claiming cop can't be killed at night and it'd be suspicious af to everyone if tropius isn't killed at night after having proven to be a cop. So I don't see how I'm mafia under that logic since it seems much more likely that trying to false claim cop and indicting someone a potential scumread seems not exclusive to me but rather anyone that was even under the slightest suspicion. Especially since you're using the logic that tropius cleared you as town, it would apply doubly so in my case since tropius' action seemed more so as a way to get suspicion off herself more so than anything.
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Also firefighter and cop if they have a guilty should claim imo
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How does firefighter get a guilty claim btw? I thought it was just a partial block unlesss it reveals who attempted the kill if it successfully blocked a NK but afaik we had one kill every night.
Da Letter El said:
Haruno why did you hammer yesterday so early?
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I didn't really see any point in prolonging a BW since I was originally planning to ISO trop but while I was prepping up my post she seemed so obviously guilty that it was best to just hammer since it didn't seem like we were getting any discussion going.

As far as my current top scumreads, it'd probably be shubaka/aubisio and former hope in that order.
 
Sorry for not posting, I got out of school at 3:20, went to eat and then had practice from 5:30 to 10:00. I only had the chance to check my phone once, and it was one the thread hadn't been updated yet.

Will read all posts and comment tomorrow
 
former hope said:
- Probably town. Or a good mafia, I haven't been paying enough attention to them to tell.
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>proceeds to scumread
>scumreads me for subbing a lot

this is actually the definition of a nothing read. Like, a really bad one that didn't even attempt to be a good read. He is passively reading everyone as neutral.

Haruno Former Hope Aubiso scumteam
 
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