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Incorrect reads are better than no reads and it feels like you just want to avoid any blame in possible mislynch to keep your town cred.
Unvote Lynch Sandshrewz
Post a read instead of trying to avoid doing anything.
 
I'm on my phone so I can't see #s of posts but I literally have had King as town read the whole game. My first thought about him was curious about if he was shoving pushes or just scum reading, came back to it with a town read [re: similar thought process]

When I get home I'll make a special substance post just for you. Apparently I'm not voicing my opinions in a proper manner. Might even do a self iso with my thought process to give context on everything.

Sandshrewz is now a D1 idler meme. Avoiding attention is scum behavior. I still like my scum team I had before (Haruno Whydon Shubaka idler=Sandshrewz)

I'm keeping my vote on Haruno because I don't like idle lynches D1 <- context on why I didn't vote Sandshrewz while scum reading him
 
Incorrect reads are better than no reads and it feels like you just want to avoid any blame in possible mislynch to keep your town cred.
Unvote Lynch Sandshrewz
Post a read instead of trying to avoid doing anything.

lol. would you rather i post a completely baseless read that just ends up in a mislynch ??? How would that benefit village in any sense. If I don't have a good read, why should I be posting stupid reads just for the sake of not looking mafia. That's stupid af and all it does is harm village more.

All the jump the gun reads just feel more mafia trying to capitalize on a d1 mislynch and call it a typical mislynch and get away with it. Alternatively aggressive village players who just want to pressure everyone else into doing what they want them to do.

I'd take proper reads over baseless accusations any day if anyone can actually come up with them this early.

And I don't think I'm trying to avoid attention here when all I've been doing now is replying to call out posts? If I really wanted to I'd just 9.9 everything and just post later? TBH I'm just placating people who are trying to make baseless reads from the smallest of things just because a dumb read is better than no read. Really ? lol.
 
lol. would you rather i post a completely baseless read that just ends up in a mislynch ??? How would that benefit village in any sense. If I don't have a good read, why should I be posting stupid reads just for the sake of not looking mafia. That's stupid af and all it does is harm village more.

All the jump the gun reads just feel more mafia trying to capitalize on a d1 mislynch and call it a typical mislynch and get away with it. Alternatively aggressive village players who just want to pressure everyone else into doing what they want them to do.

I'd take proper reads over baseless accusations any day if anyone can actually come up with them this early.

And I don't think I'm trying to avoid attention here when all I've been doing now is replying to call out posts? If I really wanted to I'd just 9.9 everything and just post later? TBH I'm just placating people who are trying to make baseless reads from the smallest of things just because a dumb read is better than no read. Really ? lol.
Posting what you think informs town what you think. It doesn't necessarily lead into a mislynch. Right now I'm just making assumptions on what you're thinking or trying to do because you're not telling me.

Again, we have no idea what you're thinking so we're making assumptions. Twin is the only one who has voted you so far. If you're village try and make sure mislynches don't occur and don't just complain about people pressuring you.

You keep saying that your thoughts and opinions won't matter therefore you won't give it and you said this "Guess I better unwatch the thread so that I don't look scum then." because you didn't want attention on yourself for viewing the thread.
 
Votecount 1
Empoof (1): Da Letter El
Haruno (1): Empoof
Jalmont (1): Haruno
sandshrewz (1): Thetwinmasters
shubaka17 (1): King_

Not voting (10): Aubisio, Former Hope, Jalmont, Mithril, OM room, sandshrewz, shubaka17, SomewhatOddish, tropiusisbae, Whydon

Deadline is in 19 hours and 10 minutes.
 
Good Idea imo although it could just each be 1 liners.
I've never been a big fan of post minimums. People will post for the sake of having a post, and to be honest, there is not always things worth posting.

That aside, Sandshrewz has been terrible today, but I honestly don't see this happening if he were mafia. You would think his teammates would be screaming at him (if they have daychat I guess). But with regards do D1 lynches, doing nothing is a waste. We as the village do not have any kills and the only way we get info is through interactions and deaths. Does that mean we should intentionally mislynch...no. But an informed mislynch is far better than no lynch.

From the more recent people posting, I need to read back through Empoof vs Twin because there posts started running together for me.
 
I've never been a big fan of post minimums. People will post for the sake of having a post, and to be honest, there is not always things worth posting.

yes but consider the following:

The following users, had I implemented the post minimum at midnight yesterday, would have been subbed out at midnight today:
shubaka17 (4 posts)
Jalmont (4)
Whydon (3)
Aubisio (2)
tropiusisbae (0)
OM room (0)
Former Hope (0)

that's nearly half the game - in fact, it IS half if you include yourself (3), but you've only been around since 6:45 yesterday.

i would love to not implement activity requirements but that requires you guys to actually play the game.
 
I'm making it official.

If you do not make 5 game-related posts between now and EoD (one-liners are fine as long as they aren't just "hi activity"), you will be subbed. No exceptions.

5 posts is nothing, if you can't even manage that you shouldn't be signing up.
 
I'm making it official.

If you do not make 5 game-related posts between now and EoD (one-liners are fine as long as they aren't just "hi activity"), you will be subbed. No exceptions.

5 posts is nothing, if you can't even manage that you shouldn't be signing up.
Fair enough Walrein. Soz for the AFK guys. I had stuff going on IRL. Will hapily answer any questions while I catch up on all the d1 scum baiting
 
Now, before I get bombarded with questions here are some limitations:
  1. Only stuff related to this game please
  2. Yes this game only for reasons I will get to
  3. I claim town, so dont ask if I am Mafia
Now my rreasoning for only wishing to talk about this game is that tropiusisbae has never played a NOC before. Dullagamur did play acid city, and won as the warden, but tropius did not. I am taking this name change as an opportunity to start anew, and while I had a horrible start, that change starts here.

Any objections?
If not, then let the scum hunt begin.

I have gone over the entire thread and noticed that king seems to be rather sure I am scum, but he has other targets as well. This was mostly due to idling and my very few posts. I can understand that to a degree. What I would like to do is question the validity of idlers as scum. I never understood it, but encountered it everywhere. Could someone explain it to me please.

Expect more posts to come. Dullagamur is dead, all that is left is her love for flying palm trees
 
I have gone over the entire thread and noticed that king seems to be rather sure I am scum, but he has other targets as well. This was mostly due to idling and my very few posts. I can understand that to a degree. What I would like to do is question the validity of idlers as scum. I never understood it, but encountered it everywhere. Could someone explain it to me please.

Basic reasoning: When you don't say anything, noone can't get a read on you or your relationships. The people that don't want to be read the most are scum. Scum don't want to draw attention to themselves, for fear of slipping up. If you don't say anything, you don't draw attention to yourself and you don't slip up. When you're idle, you're also not actively scum hunting. Scumhunting -> helping town win. Not Scumhunting -> not helping town win.

inb4 Look At Me I'm So Town.

It's 2:40 AM and i just got home but i'm gonna do a self iso anyways since I said I would and I'm stubborn.
 
Basic reasoning: When you don't say anything, noone can't get a read on you or your relationships. The people that don't want to be read the most are scum. Scum don't want to draw attention to themselves, for fear of slipping up. If you don't say anything, you don't draw attention to yourself and you don't slip up. When you're idle, you're also not actively scum hunting. Scumhunting -> helping town win. Not Scumhunting -> not helping town win.

inb4 Look At Me I'm So Town.

It's 2:40 AM and i just got home but i'm gonna do a self iso anyways since I said I would and I'm stubborn.

I have seen that psychology before and partially agree with it. However my problem is that some people may stay quiet because they have nothing to contribute yet be town, or a pr may be trying to hide. Also Mafia members know about this, and usually are some of the most active "townies" we have, until they flip. From my viewpoint idling is just a passive town hurt, but one that is not always scummy.
 
lol. would you rather i post a completely baseless read that just ends up in a mislynch ??? How would that benefit village in any sense. If I don't have a good read, why should I be posting stupid reads just for the sake of not looking mafia. That's stupid af and all it does is harm village more.

All the jump the gun reads just feel more mafia trying to capitalize on a d1 mislynch and call it a typical mislynch and get away with it. Alternatively aggressive village players who just want to pressure everyone else into doing what they want them to do.

I'd take proper reads over baseless accusations any day if anyone can actually come up with them this early.

And I don't think I'm trying to avoid attention here when all I've been doing now is replying to call out posts? If I really wanted to I'd just 9.9 everything and just post later? TBH I'm just placating people who are trying to make baseless reads from the smallest of things just because a dumb read is better than no read. Really ? lol.
If you can 100% get a decent read that isn't baseless on at least 1 person after 9 pages
 
I have gone over the entire thread and noticed that king seems to be rather sure I am scum, but he has other targets as well. This was mostly due to idling and my very few posts. I can understand that to a degree. What I would like to do is question the validity of idlers as scum. I never understood it, but encountered it everywhere. Could someone explain it to me please.
Do you have a read on king based on this? Do you think this is a townie thing that he is doing or a scummy thing? Why?
 
Self Iso "I've got a really big dick post" v1.0

3 meme posts then game

22: RVS on Shubaka, who I said everyone can read but me. Which is legit, something about this kids posting style triggers me. I said this in Bulletproof as well. Asked about tropius play since I hadn't seen it.
26: tropius is dulla, I didn't notice.
36: Bring up peek article, was generally curious. [Current opinion: too many outlying variables for it to work well this game with nerfed inspects, mastermind, etc. At first I thought it would be better since we could label scum as town peeks, but I agree with Haruno/King or whoever said that it has the possibility of cleaning people that are scum and could be difficult for town to manage properly; the trade of hard claim inspect → mafia is worth.]
65: peek talk, answer question, bring up that I think King is either pushing early or just making his scum reads known and that i'll come back to it.
75: thought voting Jalmont was futile if he's open about D1 idle. I label jalmont as a good player so I'm sure he knows idling isn't a good town move and assumed he just had some irl shit or was gonna be stubborn. As bad as this might make me look, I didn't label Jalmont as maf for these reasons.
77: Prod last person who hadn't posted. Ask them questions about the game. Asked about DLE because I was toying with the idea of DLE being active scum, asked about Whydon lynch because I liked Kings reasoning for Whydon lynch. Asked about players metas because I don't have good reads on those personally.
82: Come back to King (I see now this doesn't look like me “thinking about it over tea” or making confirmations, meh). King had same scum reads at the time (Shubaka and Whydon) and I liked his reasoning against Whydon. He was also prodding and asking about idles. I consider this post me labeling King as town. Though I was still hesitant about Whydon because I couldn't pin if he was just noobin or caught pushin an idle lynch.
84: asked Whydon about SomewhatOddish because I saw similarities in their intentions. I wanted to know more about him and saw a good opportunity to see if I labeled his playstyle correctly. Wanted to see if he'd OMGUS on King too.
98: Calling the blatant omgus from haruno. Fell back asleep after this rofl
119: Label Haruno as scum, clarify my reads. [Haruno/shubaka/whydon scummy, King DLE town, om room as null since DLE had claimed him town and I wanted to make that distinction. I thought om room's response to DLE was very null. But I can understand why DLE would label it town.]
120: I either forgot about SomewhatOddish or hadn't read her posts yet idr which. Labeled town for actively thinking about the game, and because of her playstyle was expecting to solidify her in my mind when a lynch flip happened and there was hard evidence for her to talk about. Prod Sandshrewz on being stupid.
141: Give scum team of all my reads. They work well together for me. At the time none of these 3 had talked about eachother at all and I had them all labeled as scum. Sandshrewz was my gut idler for his poor activity posts of idk what i'm doing. Bring up DLE mastermind idea I was working with that went away. Ask DLE about scum team with Haruno and I since I'm against Haruno.
143: DLE responds and I see where he's coming from.
154: Hit the lynch button that I probably should've put 141. SomewhatOddish put out a read list which I honestly wasn't expecting to happen until D2. Reassured me. Still thought Haruno's comeback post that people motioned as town wasn't great. DLE viewed it as earnestly worried about D1 mislynch but I just see it as banter.
158: I'm an open book hmu.
183: Shubaka is dumb.
193: Reply to Haruno, I haven't changed scum reads and have only targetted my 3 people the whole early game. I don't get the passing on the bill thing.

200+ is current game.

I've literally been on the same 3 people the whole game and nothings changed. They look worse and Sandshrewz is icing.
 
Do you have a read on king based on this? Do you think this is a townie thing that he is doing or a scummy thing? Why?
I have my suspicions surrounding king however I would not call it a scum read, more like pay close attention to. I am having trouble understanding how at 6-7 pages into d1 he had multiple scum reads he seemed to have faith in. In essence, if I had to pick one person I think might be scum, it is king. However I suck at reading and I have a policy of never scum reading day 1. Rather I like to get feels for players then see if that fell changes in later days.
 
I have my suspicions surrounding king however I would not call it a scum read, more like pay close attention to. I am having trouble understanding how at 6-7 pages into d1 he had multiple scum reads he seemed to have faith in. In essence, if I had to pick one person I think might be scum, it is king. However I suck at reading and I have a policy of never scum reading day 1. Rather I like to get feels for players then see if that fell changes in later days.
this is towny
 
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