A Physical Wall Medicham?

Doctor Mudkip

Well I was looking through the various moves that can be learned by Medicham as well as some of his base stats, when I came upon a move he learns by level up.

Power Trick-

The user switches its attack and defense stats.

Normally this might sound like a silly move, ecspecially the dumb NPCs that use it on Shuckle, but I think Medicham could make it work.

With an Admant nature and maxed attack Medicham ends up with an impressive 480 attack. With power swap he ends up with an impressive 480 defense!

To top it all off Medicham learns one of the best instant recovery moves in the game Recover. He can also provide support with Light Screen (To cover his mediocre special defense.) He learns reflect also. In a sense he can Bolt/Beam with Ice/Thunder Punch. He also has the option of using Bulk up to improve his overall status, though you might find it difficult fitting it into a moveslot.

Ive never seen this done before but I think it has possible potential. What do you guys think? Discuss I say!
 
I'm pretty sure that the doubled attack stat wouldn't be transferred to defense. Most likely the defensive stat that becomes his attack will be doubled.
 
I'd rather use Bulk Up and increase both Attack and Defence, rather than increasing one at the expense of the other.
 
Nah, I don't think that will work...but its defense is indeed better than its attack. So maybe Power Trick might work, but not in the way you were thinking. It'd be interesting...
 
I wonder if you could Baton Pass Power Trick.

If you could, a great recipient would be Regirock. Regirock can break 500 Defense easily, and still have 280 attack after the BP. Combine with Rock Polish or Curse, and add in an SDef boost from Sandstorm, and it could be beastly.

I'll have to try this out.

EDIT: Just tested it. Power Trick can be Baton Passed. I did it on Medicham to Regirock and proceeded to do mucho damage :D Fire Punch took about 86% out of Forry (normally doesn't break 50), and Weavile's Brick Break did about 50% (would do about 20% with the EVs I had given it.) I don't know if Pure Power transferred over to defense, but Power Trick can be passed.
 
Deck Knight said:
I wonder if you could Baton Pass Power Trick.

If you could, a great recipient would be Regirock. Regirock can break 500 Defense easily, and still have 280 attack after the BP. Combine with Rock Polish or Curse, and add in an SDef boost from Sandstorm, and it could be beastly.

I'll have to try this out.

EDIT: Just tested it. Power Trick can be Baton Passed. I did it on Medicham to Regirock and proceeded to do mucho damage :D Fire Punch took about 86% out of Forry (normally doesn't break 50), and Weavile's Brick Break did about 50% (would do about 20% with the EVs I had given it.) I don't know if Pure Power transferred over to defense, but Power Trick can be passed.
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WTF useless cant kill Weavile with brick Break.:pirate:
 
Deck Knight said:
I wonder if you could Baton Pass Power Trick.

If you could, a great recipient would be Regirock. Regirock can break 500 Defense easily, and still have 280 attack after the BP. Combine with Rock Polish or Curse, and add in an SDef boost from Sandstorm, and it could be beastly.

I'll have to try this out.

EDIT: Just tested it. Power Trick can be Baton Passed. I did it on Medicham to Regirock and proceeded to do mucho damage :D Fire Punch took about 86% out of Forry (normally doesn't break 50), and Weavile's Brick Break did about 50% (would do about 20% with the EVs I had given it.) I don't know if Pure Power transferred over to defense, but Power Trick can be passed.
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Oh my god, that is absolutely increadable

the regis scare me now....

But about the power trick thing, In the time it would take you to flip flop your stats, you could of simply used bulk up and had better attck and defense. This though is only capitalizing that the purepower boost isn't switched....
 
L2m6w5 said:
I'm pretty sure that the doubled attack stat wouldn't be transferred to defense. Most likely the defensive stat that becomes his attack will be doubled.
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Yes. The Attack Boost is calculated separately, so the boost stays with attack. So in effect, you get a Drop in defence as Chams Base Atk (60) is lower than its Base Def of 75. Nice Idea, but totally useless.
 
Deck Knight said:
Just tested it. Power Trick can be Baton Passed. I did it on Medicham to Regirock and proceeded to do mucho damage :D Fire Punch took about 86% out of Forry (normally doesn't break 50), and Weavile's Brick Break did about 50% (would do about 20% with the EVs I had given it.) I don't know if Pure Power transferred over to defense, but Power Trick can be passed.
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O_o Whoa. Good finding :naughty:!
 
TheMantyke said:
Oh my god, that is absolutely increadable

the regis scare me now....

But about the power trick thing, In the time it would take you to flip flop your stats, you could of simply used bulk up and had better attck and defense. This though is only capitalizing that the purepower boost isn't switched....
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Power Trick for Medicham is rather bad compared to Bulk Up, but in Regirock's case you'd be BPing it to something whose attack is usually half of it's defense, so it would be like BPing Swords Dance. The difference is since Power Trick affects actual stats, If you used Curse your attack would be at 750 instead of 430 or whatever it would be after a Bulk Up.

I didn't say it was practical, I just wanted to test it. I can't really see any applications other than BP chains where you're already passing a Swords Dance or something, in which case its worth it to have the swapped stats. +2 Swapped Attack on Regirock is 1000, +4 Attack on Regirock is 750-ish.

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LOL I just thought of something brilliant, passing Power Trick to Bastiodon. It'd have more attack than Rampardos XD. Although Regirock is still the best choice. The problem withj doing it on Registeel is 75 Defense is quite iffy.
 
XtrEEmMaShEEn3k2 said:
Just use Gallade.
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Gallade doesn't learn Power Trick or Baton Pass, and doesn't have anything to compensate for it's bad physical defense. Anyway.

Baton Passing Power Trick is an interesting idea, but most people seem to be focusing on turning a tank into a sweeper. Couldn't you do it the other way around, too? Baton Pass Power Trick to Snorlax, and all of a sudden he's a physical wall with great Sp. Def. 65 Atk isn't great, but it would definitely be a shock to see Snorlax taking Close Combats without dying horribly. It could also be used to bring in Wish Salamence easier.
 
éyaang said:
75? You mean 2.75, right? Because Registeel has 150 at both defenses. After a Power Trick a max Def Registeel would have 438 Atk, hooray!
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No, I mean if you BP'd it Power Trick it would have Base 75 Defense, which isn't great, its just above Lucario.
 
Pure Power is factored after Power Trick, so you'd end up raising your Attack, as said.

You also can't "wall" stuff if you need to switch in then be able to wall, since walls need to switch in and take hits without having a free turn to use Power Trick, so even if this did work mechanically, it wouldn't work practically. It would be like thinking Alakazam is a physical wall because it can Barrier and Recover. It's not, because when it tries to switch in to take a physical hit (like Medicham), it's going to be 1-2HKOed anyway.
 
Interesting find by Deck Knight, but as stated earlier I'd much prefer to BP Bulk Up with Cham, Power Trick is way too situational
 
I fell out of my chair when I read this; I tested it too awhile ago. Basically, the Pure Power boost doesn't double the actual stat, just its impact on the damage formula, so you actually get a net Defense drop assuming both have 252 EVs.

Even Bulk Up Medicham is a bad idea. 70/75 is bad even if you boost it.

A good idea though, but it doesn't really, like, work.
 
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