Okay I don't, really, but it seems to me that since the mother actually has to carry for 9 months, give birth to, and raise and nurture a baby, a father that checks out can probably contribute most of the finances. Raising a kid isn't easy- making enough money to pay for both of you is even harder.
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Okay I don't, really, but it seems to me that since the mother actually has to carry for 9 months, give birth to, and raise and nurture a baby, a father that checks out can probably contribute most of the finances. Raising a kid isn't easy- making enough money to pay for both of you is even harder.
So after conception and before birth, it's completely the woman's decision that determines whether the child is aborted or not, regardless of the male's decision if he wants the baby or not. And then it becomes dual responsibility that the male has to take care of the child he did not want in the first place?
And I don't think you understand the extent of the legal slant America has against males in custodial and usually any cases involving a child.
No, I just thought Mattj's question was intentionally stirring the pot, which he later clarified it was not.
How on earth did you get "people who disagree shut up" from that?
she can choose to get rid of it if that seems like too much effort, though
I can't believe abortion is legal. You may disagree, but IT IS TAKING A LIFE!
You're preventing the life of a baby, you don't know what it will become. You are stopping life. All men are created equal. How is this true if some people are denied creation?
You're preventing the life of a baby, you don't know what it will become. You are stopping life. All men are created equal. How is this true if some people are denied creation?
im not saying there arent things that could be fixed with how our legal system handles custodial issues, because there are
the core of my argument is that yes, the father should have no say in a mother getting an abortion if she does not want him to have a say
basically
I'll also say that there should be some sort of system where a father is allowed to cut themselves off entirely from the mother and child before it is born. The woman should be able to choose what she does with her body, but the man should be able to choose his degree of contact with the offspring. No contact, no child support. If it's the woman that wants the abortion but the man doesn't, then really, just tough shit for the man.
@kingcharizard Really we have to have an intelligent discussion wherein we define what a human life actually is, because as it is, early term foetuses don't exactly have real brains.
@kingcharizard Really we have to have an intelligent discussion wherein we define what a human life actually is, because as it is, early term foetuses don't exactly have real brains.
do you ever wish sandi was funnier
also while i'm normally loath to lock discussion-based threads, this really has no chance of going anywhere
neither side is going to be enlightened of anything, and people always get a bad case of the Hurt Feelings
i'll leave it up to the other mods though cause i'm kind of a pussy!!!
Are you truly 13? Just wondering. But anyways, what would you say if a woman was raped? Do you think she should be denied abortion?
And the trolls respond in full force.
Then you agree that the father should be able to cut himself off since he didn't want the baby in the first place. If you agree to this, then we can see eye to eye.
Then again, that's a pipe dream. Never going to happen.
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i wouldn't feel about that because i wouldn't be alive
have you heard all the stories about mothers who don't regret it because they were able to live out what part of their life they needed to live without a baby? how about all the kids who grow up on the streets and are doomed to fail from the moment of birth because their unfit mothers kept them?
Look at the crime rate of New York City in 1993. It fell through the floor because abortion was legalized by the state in the 1970's. Just throwing that out there...
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