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Mafia vs Village ALLCAPS INVITATIONAL Mafia - Game Over: ALMOSTS Win! Postgame P13
- Thread starter Yeti
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Before anyone takes umbrage at what I'm about to say, let me explain that it is amazing to me that Mr. Wank A zorbees would dare to criticize someone or something without carefully reading what was written. For the sake of review, we must obviously penetrate the sunny façade of Wank's sentiments with the sharpened stick of reality. A compossible option is to fight the good fight. If we follow that approach, however, we must bear in mind that many years ago I reported that the biggest threat to our society was the number of obstinate merciless-types whom Wank had convinced to divert our attention from serious issues. I wish that I could say to you that the situation has improved. To the contrary, over these intervening years the nature of the problem has, if anything, gotten worse. In particular, in plain language, I find it sickening to watch Wank make a mockery of the term “undemonstrativeness”. And I can say that with a clear conscience because for those of us who make our living trying to keep the lines of communication wide open, it is important to consider that if society were a beer bottle—something, I believe, that Wank holds in high regard—he would indeed be the nauseating bit at the bottom that only the homeless like to drink.
Wank's yes-men perpetrate all kinds of atrocities while alleging that they are simply not capable of such activities and that therefore, the atrocities must be the product of my and your feverish and overworked imaginations. Wank claims that the Scriptures are responsible for his delirious thoughts and fancies. This eisegetical fantasy is not only spineless, but it fails to consider that Wank keeps saying that there exists evidence that his stratagems prevent smallpox. I suggest taking such statements with a grain of salt because his scribblings are not an abstract problem. They have very concrete, immediate, and unpleasant consequences. For instance, he fully intends to precipitate riots. But that's not enough, not for him. Wank will additionally resort to ad hominem attacks on me and my family, which is why I profess that he has no discernible talents. The only things Wank has surely mastered are biological functions. Well, I suppose he's also good at convincing people that he is the arbiter of all things, but my point is that if we don't challenge fetishism and thereby create the possibility of justice and fairness in our society then Wank will seek vengeance on those unrepentant souls who persist in challenging his overgeneralizations. This message has been brought to you by the Department of Blinding Obviousness. What might not be so obvious, however, is that Wank argues that Man's eternal search for Truth is a challenge to be avoided at all costs. This is an entertaining statement, perhaps, except that when taken at face value it presages a likely attempt by Wank to erase the memory of all traditions and all history.
Wank has indicated that if we don't let him enshrine irrational fears and fancies as truth then he'll be forced to move paltry conspiracism from the hypersensitive fringe into a realm of respectability. That's like putting rabid attack dogs in silk suits. In other words, Wank has issued us a thinly veiled threat that's intended primarily to scare us away from the realization that the other day I surveyed the first few people I met. Only one person I interviewed actually believes that Wank's artifices can give us deeper insights into the nature of reality. (I found out later that that person is a member of Wank's terrorist organization so I aver that we can safely discount his opinion.) Everyone else I polled already realizes that Wank's new definition of “parallelogrammatical” is honestly in disagreement with his overbearing tractates. As long as I live, I will be shouting this truth from rooftops and doing everything I can to focus on concrete facts, on hard news, on analyzing and interpreting what's happening in the world. Let me close where I began: Mr. Wank A zorbees has an innate tropism to undermine the individualistic underpinnings of traditional jurisprudence.
Wank's yes-men perpetrate all kinds of atrocities while alleging that they are simply not capable of such activities and that therefore, the atrocities must be the product of my and your feverish and overworked imaginations. Wank claims that the Scriptures are responsible for his delirious thoughts and fancies. This eisegetical fantasy is not only spineless, but it fails to consider that Wank keeps saying that there exists evidence that his stratagems prevent smallpox. I suggest taking such statements with a grain of salt because his scribblings are not an abstract problem. They have very concrete, immediate, and unpleasant consequences. For instance, he fully intends to precipitate riots. But that's not enough, not for him. Wank will additionally resort to ad hominem attacks on me and my family, which is why I profess that he has no discernible talents. The only things Wank has surely mastered are biological functions. Well, I suppose he's also good at convincing people that he is the arbiter of all things, but my point is that if we don't challenge fetishism and thereby create the possibility of justice and fairness in our society then Wank will seek vengeance on those unrepentant souls who persist in challenging his overgeneralizations. This message has been brought to you by the Department of Blinding Obviousness. What might not be so obvious, however, is that Wank argues that Man's eternal search for Truth is a challenge to be avoided at all costs. This is an entertaining statement, perhaps, except that when taken at face value it presages a likely attempt by Wank to erase the memory of all traditions and all history.
Wank has indicated that if we don't let him enshrine irrational fears and fancies as truth then he'll be forced to move paltry conspiracism from the hypersensitive fringe into a realm of respectability. That's like putting rabid attack dogs in silk suits. In other words, Wank has issued us a thinly veiled threat that's intended primarily to scare us away from the realization that the other day I surveyed the first few people I met. Only one person I interviewed actually believes that Wank's artifices can give us deeper insights into the nature of reality. (I found out later that that person is a member of Wank's terrorist organization so I aver that we can safely discount his opinion.) Everyone else I polled already realizes that Wank's new definition of “parallelogrammatical” is honestly in disagreement with his overbearing tractates. As long as I live, I will be shouting this truth from rooftops and doing everything I can to focus on concrete facts, on hard news, on analyzing and interpreting what's happening in the world. Let me close where I began: Mr. Wank A zorbees has an innate tropism to undermine the individualistic underpinnings of traditional jurisprudence.
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... what.
Not gonna vote until I figure out why either of these lynches are going down other than "don't like them and/or their mafia playstyle"
Not gonna vote until I figure out why either of these lynches are going down other than "don't like them and/or their mafia playstyle"
Upon consideration of my options, rather than join a wagon, I have decided to vote No Lynch
OK, seriously? We are not No Lynching in an Outside Communication Mafia game.
We need to get organized. We can either start posting in the thread and pretend it's NOC or someone can fucking take initiative and say something to either direct today's lynch or give us hope for the future. Got a plan for Day 2? Let us know.
I am not fit to lead because I may be the only person on the whole playerlist that hasn't played Mafia before (Plus my role's bad for it anyway). However I will not simply sit by and allow two Mafia and probable Neutral Factions to whip out their machine guns and go open season on us poor townies.
Vote: Walrein
You want to play it like NOC if we don't have relevant results (which I can definitely get behind) but you don't take initiative on that front and start this no lynch wagon.
We've got a day left people, let's use it. No longer must we let our hands be clean.
We need to get organized. We can either start posting in the thread and pretend it's NOC or someone can fucking take initiative and say something to either direct today's lynch or give us hope for the future. Got a plan for Day 2? Let us know.
I am not fit to lead because I may be the only person on the whole playerlist that hasn't played Mafia before (Plus my role's bad for it anyway). However I will not simply sit by and allow two Mafia and probable Neutral Factions to whip out their machine guns and go open season on us poor townies.
Vote: Walrein
You want to play it like NOC if we don't have relevant results (which I can definitely get behind) but you don't take initiative on that front and start this no lynch wagon.
We've got a day left people, let's use it. No longer must we let our hands be clean.
The only reason I voted no lynch was because there were 3 votes on LightWolf and Smafia activity has been abysmal as of late; I didn't want him to get lynched off as a joke because nobody bothered to counter the randwagon.
I'm actually going to have to disagree with Sam and Blazade, though. If it were NOC, then yeah, I'd be 100% against not lynching. OC games, however, generally (GENERALLY) give the village a lot more info roles to toy around with, meaning that the longer we stall, the more we'll have to work with. Boring, sure, but it gets the job done. The OTHER thing is that in OC games the village:mafia ratio is generally a lot higher, so our chances of randlynching successfully are a lot lower.
This is not to say that I'm demanding we no lynch today - obviously I'd rather find someone sus and kick their ass. I'm just opposed to lynching randomly.
I'm actually going to have to disagree with Sam and Blazade, though. If it were NOC, then yeah, I'd be 100% against not lynching. OC games, however, generally (GENERALLY) give the village a lot more info roles to toy around with, meaning that the longer we stall, the more we'll have to work with. Boring, sure, but it gets the job done. The OTHER thing is that in OC games the village:mafia ratio is generally a lot higher, so our chances of randlynching successfully are a lot lower.
This is not to say that I'm demanding we no lynch today - obviously I'd rather find someone sus and kick their ass. I'm just opposed to lynching randomly.
With roles randomized, I want more stuff to go off of before a lynch, too.
Sure, stalling will get more info, but not buy us more time. We only get a certain number of chances to lynch mafia, and I'm inclined to believe that intuitively no lynching shoots us in the foot about as much as mislynching does.
But prove me wrong, all I want to see is a plan. I'll no lynch today if I can believe we'll be in a better situation tomorrow.
But prove me wrong, all I want to see is a plan. I'll no lynch today if I can believe we'll be in a better situation tomorrow.
In a game like this, one of two things happens:
1. The village lynches the mafia successfully often enough to just roll to a victory by game's end
2. The village loses majority and at some point and has to negotiate with the mafias, which generally results in a village loss
In my experience, scenario 2 is about as likely to happen whether we no lynch or mislynch on day 1 - either way, it's pretty bad. Scenario 1, however, is way more likely to happen by successfully lynching than by no lynching.
The point is that even if we don't have anything solid to go off of, mislynching will probably be made up for with mafia crossfire later on due to decreased village numbers, while lynching successfully greatly increases our chances of actually winning the game while in the majority the whole time.
This is not even to mention that we can pressure people during day 1 and then decide to no lynch later on anyway. There's zero reason to just automatically no lynch off the bat simply because half the game has gone radio silent, though.
1. The village lynches the mafia successfully often enough to just roll to a victory by game's end
2. The village loses majority and at some point and has to negotiate with the mafias, which generally results in a village loss
In my experience, scenario 2 is about as likely to happen whether we no lynch or mislynch on day 1 - either way, it's pretty bad. Scenario 1, however, is way more likely to happen by successfully lynching than by no lynching.
The point is that even if we don't have anything solid to go off of, mislynching will probably be made up for with mafia crossfire later on due to decreased village numbers, while lynching successfully greatly increases our chances of actually winning the game while in the majority the whole time.
This is not even to mention that we can pressure people during day 1 and then decide to no lynch later on anyway. There's zero reason to just automatically no lynch off the bat simply because half the game has gone radio silent, though.