[12:23:03] Magiquaza was invited (and promoted to Room Voice) by Kinetic1000 ♆.
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: https://pokepast.es/861579140ab1b085
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+Magiquaza: :thumbsup:
[12:34:02] NottaDoc was invited (and promoted to Room Voice) by Kinetic1000 ♆.
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+Magiquaza: wait why is corv bu instead of defog
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: i guess it can be defog
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: i don't think bulk up really matters for anything
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+Magiquaza: also what tier will this be played on, with the new bans
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: furscales meta
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: pre furscales valiant pult bundle ban
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+Magiquaza: ik, but will there need to be a custom challenge or something
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: ye i got that
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+Magiquaza: k
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+Magiquaza: is the sandy shocks ev-optimized for any specific thing?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: nah
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: timid isn't necessary
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/ba...-1785647518-n2dh4m4fj62a5b1fgdtbablrcwm3mylpw
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+Magiquaza: is the chiyu noguard?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: could be
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+Magiquaza: funnily enough if sandy socks is timid then it outspeeds chiyu
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+Magiquaza: although ig it's likely scarf
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: most chi-yu are modest
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+Magiquaza: do you think the bax could be glaciate
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+Magiquaza: or nah
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: probably moldy
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: pult lead?
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+Magiquaza: bax actually looks pretty strong into your team
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+Magiquaza: pult is safe, they don't have their own
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+Magiquaza: and ig hard-florges and hard-corv always cover chiyu
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+Magiquaza: this bax might be scarfed
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+Magiquaza: for surprise drag kills
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 252+ Atk Baxcalibur Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 200-236 (63 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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+NottaDoc: its possible, it could be a lot of things.
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+Magiquaza: is hardcorv or hardquaq safer?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: quag can't really hurt it
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+Magiquaza: I want to think that if they're leading the bax then it has something like band/scarf to cheese dragapults
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: yeah i think florges is good
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+Magiquaza: oh, it's fc
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: bax is moldy tho
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+Magiquaza: 252+ Atk Choice Band Mold Breaker Baxcalibur Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Florges: 228-268 (63.3 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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+Magiquaza: that's if it's band though
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+NottaDoc: ok, so probably scarf then?
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+Magiquaza: yeah scarf
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: probably
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: moonblast?
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+Magiquaza: sure, I don't think they want to take their chances with a flinch
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 0 SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gholdengo: 61-72 (16.1 - 19%) -- possible 6HKO
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: quag?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: quaquaval
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: not quag lol
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+Magiquaza: quaq is safe, it can do damage and taunt
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: so taunt?
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+Magiquaza: +2 252+ SpA Gholdengo Shadow Ball vs. 200 HP / 236+ SpD Ice Scales Quaquaval: 128-151 (35.4 - 41.8%) -- 84.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
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+Magiquaza: that's not max spa
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: that's not offensive slither wing
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+Magiquaza: defensive?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 0 Atk Quaquaval Aqua Step vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Slither Wing: 123-145 (39.5 - 46.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 0 Atk Quaquaval Aqua Step vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slither Wing: 84-100 (22.4 - 26.7%) -- 26.9% chance to 4HKO
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+Magiquaza: k, but not fc
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: taunt?
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+Magiquaza: what could it do
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+Magiquaza: bu?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: wisp
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: or u-turn
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+Magiquaza: if it has wisp then taunt
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+Magiquaza: I didn't even know it had wisp
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+NottaDoc: nice one.
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: we can just bulk up
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+Magiquaza: I think astep could have been better
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: +1 0 Atk Quaquaval Aqua Step vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Florges: 69-82 (19.1 - 22.7%) -- possible 5HKO
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+NottaDoc: this does nothing
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+NottaDoc: yeah exactly
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 0 SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 236+ SpD Ice Scales Quaquaval: 100-118 (26.7 - 31.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: we can just taunt so it can't cm
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: then spam bulk up
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: right?
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+Magiquaza: yeah
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+Magiquaza: taunt again?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: ye
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+Magiquaza: ok well this chiyu is untouchable
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+NottaDoc: just a bit
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: doubt it's nasty plot
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+Magiquaza: taunt for np?
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+Magiquaza: oh ok
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: but yeah that's safe
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+Magiquaza: sure, it can't do much with psychic
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+NottaDoc: its already taunted
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Chi-Yu Psychic vs. 252 HP / 236+ SpD Ice Scales Quaquaval: 146-172 (39 - 45.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: oh right
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: it is
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+Magiquaza: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Chi-Yu Psychic vs. 200 HP / 236+ SpD Ice Scales Quaquaval: 146-172 (40.4 - 47.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: scarf
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+Magiquaza: woops i did wrong calc
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+Magiquaza: why bu
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: to scout
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: it can't kill
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+Magiquaza: k, 30%burn though
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: corv?
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+Magiquaza: go corv or risk and roost
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+Magiquaza: you can roost but that is beaten by a burn
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: sandy shocks?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: they don't have a tbolt switchin
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+Magiquaza: k that isn't fc
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+Magiquaza: could it be ee
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: tbolt or volt switch
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+Magiquaza: tbolt probs
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+Magiquaza: actualy vs is better for hardbax
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+Magiquaza: vs is safer overall
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+NottaDoc: yeah, no reason not too vs right?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 252+ SpA Hadron Engine Sandy Shocks Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Florges in Electric Terrain: 183-216 (50.8 - 60%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 252+ SpA Hadron Engine Sandy Shocks Volt Switch vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Slither Wing in Electric Terrain: 199-235 (53.2 - 62.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: we can just go corv and click u-turn
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+Magiquaza: yeah, they can't do much to it anywya
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+Magiquaza: and they can't risk bb and choke
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: yep that's fc
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 0 SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Sandy Shocks: 129-153 (41.4 - 49.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: honestly we could just go sandy shocks again
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: and tbolt
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+Magiquaza: I think it could be better to preserve it
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: and do what then
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: we don't have bulk up on corv
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: i'd rather not cm war with our florges
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: and qua loses a lot of roosts
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+Magiquaza: ok
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+NottaDoc: we lose this if they fheal tho right?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: ok now we might need to go florges
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+NottaDoc: or pray for a crit
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+Magiquaza: no
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: we can pray for a crit and switch with vs at the same time
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+Magiquaza: that's best
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+Magiquaza: I think quaq taunt into sandy shocks was best
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: so we just spam cm now
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+Magiquaza: does the battle jst come down to critwar
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: i guess
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+Magiquaza: ehh ok
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+NottaDoc: we win these dw
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+Magiquaza: alright, they don't have 4 speed ev
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+Magiquaza: owch, a crit is ohko
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+Magiquaza: nice, the moonblast spa drops give more chances
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: they have 3 moonblasts
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+NottaDoc: maybe no one will crit and we both just run out of mb
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+Magiquaza: nope
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: ok this is fine
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+NottaDoc: ope
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: they have 1 moonblast
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+Magiquaza: ok that was obviously unfavorable but it works out
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+Magiquaza: we deserved that though, had more pp
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: their florges is basically useless except for wishpassing now
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+Magiquaza: I think they dpulse here
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: so we can just roost
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+NottaDoc: huh
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+Magiquaza: tusk?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: yeah
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: rocks?
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+Magiquaza: yeah
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+Magiquaza: corv?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: sure
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: wait
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: they could u-turn into bax
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+Magiquaza: uhh... then knock?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: pult?
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+Magiquaza: ye
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+Magiquaza: idt slither wing has recovery
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+Magiquaza: nvm
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+Magiquaza: morning sun
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+NottaDoc: ^
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: sandy shocks?
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+Magiquaza: they will wish here prob
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+Magiquaza: yeah shocks
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+NottaDoc: shocks mhm
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+Magiquaza: their team needs corv to remove the rocks
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+Magiquaza: vs?
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+Magiquaza: vs or bolt
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: vs
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: it's hdb
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+NottaDoc: oh, huh
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+Magiquaza: yeah, later this game we want to remove that
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 252+ Atk Baxcalibur Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 200-236 (63 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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+Magiquaza: I mean, they could go into corv and free defog
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: so we can just go into pult
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+Magiquaza: but sure
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: ddarts to be safe?
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+Magiquaza: thing is, does darts ko here
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: yes
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 252 Atk Life Orb Dragapult Dragon Darts (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Baxcalibur: 436-514 (117.5 - 138.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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+Magiquaza: it has no hp or spdef
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+Magiquaza: 252+ SpA Hadron Engine Sandy Shocks Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Baxcalibur: 231-273 (62.2 - 73.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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+Magiquaza: prob max atk max speed
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+Magiquaza: wisp or uturn
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+Magiquaza: the thing is fc right?
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+NottaDoc: my votes wisp
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+Magiquaza: waiit it's not fc
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: it's ice scales
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: they're probably gonna defog here
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+Magiquaza: yeah, wisp?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: so we could u-turn into corv and then sandy shocks
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: so we have the hadron up
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+NottaDoc: ok yeah thats good
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+Magiquaza: alright we have slowturn
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 252+ SpA Expert Belt Hadron Engine Sandy Shocks Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Ice Scales Corviknight in Electric Terrain: 256-302 (64 - 75.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: tbolt or vs
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+Magiquaza: yeah just tbolt, no reason to vswitch
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+NottaDoc: t bolt right?
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+NottaDoc: lets go
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+Magiquaza: ok actually that's bad
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+NottaDoc: a little
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+Magiquaza: now we have faster uturn
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: shard doesn't kill
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: ep doesn't either
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: idk if there's much we can do other than ep and pray
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+NottaDoc: ok what are the chances it dd's?
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+Magiquaza: vswitch or just hard
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: what about just ep'ing
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+NottaDoc: losing sandy sucks but i think we have to ep
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: now
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: we could sacrifice someone else
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: even if they dd again corv doesn't die
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+Magiquaza: i mean, how does quaq fare
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+NottaDoc: yeah thats probably the play
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+Magiquaza: prob not well, its spdef
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+Magiquaza: yeah corv?
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+Magiquaza: does 2 crashes ko corv now though
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: +1 252+ Atk Baxcalibur Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Quaquaval: 149-176 (39.8 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: 2 crashes kill
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+Magiquaza: step or roost
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+Magiquaza: grush kills here right?
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: ye
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: step i think
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+Magiquaza: ok finish with corv?
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+Magiquaza: a flinch will be sadge here
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+NottaDoc: yeah just hit it ig.
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+Magiquaza: ok they can still miss
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+Magiquaza: ...
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+Magiquaza: drag?
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+NottaDoc: yeah
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+NottaDoc: we just won't get burned
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+Magiquaza: i mean, we can't do much this game
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+Magiquaza: vs
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+Magiquaza: ggs
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+Magiquaza: we were fortunate with the original miss but our rng plummeted afterwards
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★Kinetic1000 ♆: that crit and miss sucked
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+Magiquaza: yeah
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+Magiquaza: if it didn't flinch we had a chance
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+NottaDoc: we probably should have gone tusk instead of corv first
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+Magiquaza: yeah
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+Magiquaza: corv was better defensively into their team, could take chiyu and roost
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+Magiquaza: but it shouldn't have mattered without flinch
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+NottaDoc: mhm