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Aubisio stated they realized the mistake almost immediately after the claim which they had no real motivation to lie about as it as the timing of the realization was NAI regardless.
Because mafia don't have a reason to lie. Also way to entirely ignore this entire discussion. The timing of the realization is the entire point. As the timing of the claim vs that part shows a clear fact that mafia were only thinking about blocking actions -> mafia were also wanting to know if they could stop a kill.
 
If you are implying a rolecop is only useful if it sics a a scum aligned role then I am done with this convo.
Or town roles (ie moody). But yes. General wisdom states that finding that someone who pub claimed a role does indeed have that as their real claim is well...medicore at best.
 
I'm pretty sure that's what it was initially. But then why correct it later on? If someone has a misunderstanding they don't suddenly fix it unless they have a reason to reassess their understanding of it. It doesn't just magically happen.
I mean the multiple people (in particular myself) bashing him for havign a role (x shot acestic) that makes no sense in town hands and the threat of him being lynched over it doesnt qualify as a reason for reassessment idk what does.
 
I mean the multiple people (in particular myself) bashing him for havign a role (x shot acestic) that makes no sense in town hands and the threat of him being lynched over it doesnt qualify as a reason for reassessment idk what does.
Then I guess you don't know what does? If you legit thought that was your role, why would people discussing it matter. Logically a response wouldn't be "Oh, I'm being lynched for the role I think I am. I better go see if I'm actually the role I think I am" but yet that's exactly what you are suggesting here.
 
Then I guess you don't know what does? If you legit thought that was your role, why would people discussing it matter. Logically a response wouldn't be "Oh, I'm being lynched for the role I think I am. I better go see if I'm actually the role I think I am" but yet that's exactly what you are suggesting here.
Looks like i got ignored earlier butk; Aubisio stated they realized the mistake immediately; meaning they wouldve known about the mistake when people were pushing him for it.
 
Looks like i got ignored earlier butk; Aubisio stated they realized the mistake immediately; meaning they wouldve known about the mistake when people were pushing him for it.
Yeah. But what do you think he would have said if I'm right? I don't think it would have been very different. Especially if they realized that town realizing they had been discussing the potnetial for one of them to block a kill might clear someone.
 
Yeah. But what do you think he would have said if I'm right? I don't think it would have been very different. Especially if they realized that town realizing they had been discussing the potnetial for one of them to block a kill might clear someone.
You should really stop attempting to clear yourself based off modgaming your role. Its shitty logic and i stand by that. The game is eating away at my soul atm. So unless you have something more productive than trying to clear yourself i suggest you try to do something more productive. Like actually analyze behavior. Thx
 
There's a reason why I was hoping someone else would pick up that. But no one did and if you want to say I'm scum based off my role. Then at least be informed to know why you are wrong.

Also I have been. But I've also analyzed mechanics as well which has brought me to the conclusion that one of you or proph is most likely scum. Focusing solely on analyzing behavior is how you get shitty and bad lynches like leet.
 
There's a reason why I was hoping someone else would pick up that. But no one did and if you want to say I'm scum based off my role. Then at least be informed to know why you are wrong.

Also I have been. But I've also analyzed mechanics as well which has brought me to the conclusion that one of you or proph is most likely scum. Focusing solely on analyzing behavior is how you get shitty and bad lynches like leet.
Nvm unlynch

Someone here analyze this convo with untinted lenses. Cause currently i cant.
 
"There is a reason why" is there really a point to be hiding stuff anymore? Especially the reason you were hiding something thats been revealed already?
Im going to watch anime and once again reiterate my request for someone else to read over this. Preferably MoodyCloud but i'll take any analysis i can get.
 
Yah I’m not scum I’m just dumb, and idk why Former wouldn’t be cleared by the fact that Aubisio can hide from kills
good morning

someone tell me why fh is town?
Well his defense for being town is that his redirect is the only town killing power and makes Jordan’s role make sense with the mafia (hiding from kills and all), and that the redirects he’s done in the game have been generally pro-town.
 
I don't see FH's posts today as being very town; he's engaging with you but he's not really solving

He's saying that he's been wanting to vote me for a while but I've yet to see any actual push or a case made against me, because there is none

He's been playing a good game but POE says he's the final scum, there is not really a compelling reason for him to be town. Not great interactions with scum, Blazade was sketchy, and he's spent most of Today ignoring behavior and relying purely on mechanics to push me/epik which removes all accountability from him

I'll go through his posts again sometime before deadline hopefully but I really think he's the last scum here. If he isn't, then the game becomes an order of magnitude more difficult, but no lynch in f4 -> seeing what we're left with in f3 seems to be the right bet
 
If misreading and cherry picking is considered town I don't know what scum is

Anyways, ignoring that you are likely scum. I have been trying, more so than the majority. I've concluded thay your jalmont push was likely onto a town member and have reaffirmed my mechanical read that you or epik stand the greatest chance of flipping red. I haven't done the iso I want to do on you yet...but that's because I've been lazy and that's a lot of reading. But I guess if dl is soon I'll do that today
 
deadline is tonight so yeah

the thing that bothers me is that you're assuming that me/epik are the scum, so when i flip town, you can just gun for epik in f3, or vice versa, without taking responsibility for your reads/chaining mislynches

not to mention that.. you haven't really given much reasoning as to why we are actually scum besides "it makes sense mechanically"
 
Bull, I wanted to get the two of you lynched yesterday and today so if neither of you were scum. We still had a day to figure out which of the remaining scum off of roles and interactions.

You are the one who gunned for a lynch on someone who in retrospect should have been confirmed town and today set up your lynch pair on jalmont and I
 
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You are the one who gunned for a lynch on someone who in retrospect should have been confirmed town
Who was this? Hitmonleet?

I don't think Jalmont is scum anymore. I think it's much more likely he's just uninvested town. It's just more likely that you're the final scum because PoE/gamestate, but arguing about this will get us nowhere.

If you want to get us lynched then you'll need to put in the work; I think EPIK is very town and I know I'm town so.. gl with that?
 
If misreading and cherry picking is considered town I don't know what scum is

Anyways, ignoring that you are likely scum. I have been trying, more so than the majority. I've concluded thay your jalmont push was likely onto a town member and have reaffirmed my mechanical read that you or epik stand the greatest chance of flipping red. I haven't done the iso I want to do on you yet...but that's because I've been lazy and that's a lot of reading. But I guess if dl is soon I'll do that today
I SINCERELY SINCERELY SINCERELY hope this wasnt a knock on me.
 
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