Oh crap, you're right. What a stupid stipulation! What are you thinking, GameFreak?So it's been confirmed no change to Dustox? :(
What about Machamp, Conkeldurr, Ludicolo, and Shiftry? One thing I've noticed is that all the Pokemon with updated base stats are part of 3-stage evolution chain. Politoed too :)
I'm guessing they don't want to boost "incomplete" lines on the off chance they add on to them in future generationsOh crap, you're right. What a stupid stipulation! What are you thinking, GameFreak?
EDIT: And yeah, just tested it myself. Either Metalkid has already updated Dustox's stats in his calculator or Dustox gets no stat increase.
I think the list of third stage Pokémon that might yet have a stat change is as follows:
Crobat, Politoed, Machamp, Magnezone, Gengar, Rhyperior, Blissey, Kingdra, Electivire, Magmortar, Porygon-Z, Togekiss, Mamoswine, Ludicolo, Shiftry, Gardevoir, Gallade, Slaking, Aggron, Roserade, Flygon, Dusknoir, Walrein, Luxray, Conkeldurr, Gothitelle, Reuniclus, Vanilluxe, Klinklang, Eelektross, Chandelure, Haxorus
I'm not including starters or pseudo-legends, which are unlikely to get boosts.
Confirming that Kingdra's stats are still the same, so you can cross that off the list.
I think it's been mentioned (and we can't check yet), but Lumineon definitely got a boost in speed, of some magnitude. I don't think this is limited to just 3-stage families.
Did this happen on the turn that Pinsir MegaEvolved? If that's the case then it could have been due to turn order being set before said Megavolution took place and thus Primeape would have outspeed regular PinsirHello,
Did Primeape's base speed increase to 105? I was in a double battle against the double battle leader girl in the Battle Maison and her Primeape out sped my jolly max ev/iv mega pinsir (base 105). I know it wasn't scarfed because my greninja attacked before the primeape. I have the battle video saved. So yea, you guys think primeape's base speed increased or am I missing something?
It's how it works. Stat changes take effect instantly, but Speed changes are basically irrelevant for that turn because the turn order is already set.Yea, it was the turn I mega evolved but I didn't think the megaevolution mechanics worked like that? O.o
Alright thanks! Just double checked with a max ev/iv speed primeape, same base 95 speed still. Thanks for the info -really interesting mechanic ^^
I've seen many Lumineon in the Battle Maison, and none of them had choice scarf, since they all were able to switch moves between turns. Lumineon had 91 base speed in the past, but it seems to me that it's faster than that now. I can't recall which, but it definitely outspeed either my Greninja or Scolipede. I haven't checked if a max speed base 91 can do that, though.It shows up in the battle tower. Presumably all you need to do is fine one, save it to your VS recorder, then you can make sure it's not scarfed and see if it can outspeed a postive natured base 92-100.
Try checking their final Speed stat. Lumineon can reach 157 Speed at LV50 and 309 Speed at LV100.I've seen many Lumineon in the Battle Maison, and none of them had choice scarf, since they all were able to switch moves between turns. Lumineon had 91 base speed in the past, but it seems to me that it's faster than that now. I can't recall which, but it definitely outspeed either my Greninja or Scolipede. I haven't checked if a max speed base 91 can do that, though.
It should be said that my pokemon were not minimum speed, but also were not maximum speed, either: neutral nature in relationship to speed, but EVs were invested. IVs are not 0 or 31.
Can someone check if gengar base speed has been increased? I was having a wifi match and it outspeed my starmie.It wasn't scarfed.