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Battle of the Week: UU Edition! (Resumes after SPL)
- Thread starter Christo
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Pokemonisfun n,n
Bouffalant
Hogg
PSYCHOTIC
pokemonisFUN
Sorry but I'm not playing Psychotic unless someone can easily contact him for me because I simply can't make arrangements with him. Feel free to skip over us for now / forever and start the next nomination Christo The Gr8 becase I doubt our game will happen anytime soon and he probably has no idea he was voted for BOTW anyways.
And if you want to see a game between us here is one where he randomly showed up on PS when I was online. Wasn't a ladder match if i recall correctly and definitely wasn't for any event but as always I tried to win anyways.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uususpecttest-246399751
And if you want to see a game between us here is one where he randomly showed up on PS when I was online. Wasn't a ladder match if i recall correctly and definitely wasn't for any event but as always I tried to win anyways.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uususpecttest-246399751
Lets give it a day to see if someone can get into contact with him, if no one can get in contact with him soon you will be playing Hogg
Any word on it Bouffalant? If not, im subbing in user Hogg to battle Pif
Edit: I am in contact with Psychotic and he wants to play, get on hilarious !!!!
Edit: I am in contact with Psychotic and he wants to play, get on hilarious !!!!
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Thanks Bouff and Christo for helping me get in contact with Psychotic. We played about 13 -14 hours ago before this post. We agreed to play three games regardless the results of the first two. We didn't agree to anything about Pidgeot. All three were ORAS UU. Someone tell me if the links don't work properly below please. I have importables of all my teams. Normally I wouldn't bring pure stall for all my games but seeing as that is all I talk about on the forums I thought it would be nice. Team one Team two Team three
Game one I brought what I think is my best stall team right now while Psychotic brought hyper offense with a Custap Forry. Match up wise I think I have a slight advantage, I have pretty solid counters for everything except Haxorus which I immediately presume to be SD since he knows I'm a stall player. I expect minor tweaks on his sets like Ice Beam on Sharpedo and Lum Berry on Cobalion but I'm pretty comfortable still. I immediately start haxing him by getting 100% Scald burns with Swampert which lets me kill Forry and Bannette in exchange for him getting SR + Spikes + burn on Swampert. To be completely honest if he didn't have Ice Beam Sharpedo or Calm Mind Cobalion or Sub CM Cressy, which he didn't, then I'm pretty sure my position is already completely 100% winning if I play accurately for the rest of the game by turn 6. Then I remember I don't run enough speed on Mence to beat max speed Haxorus but he isn't running max so after I get the Defog in exchange for losing Mence I'm basically completely winning if Leech Seed doesn't miss versus Haxorus which it doesn't. Florges wasn't taking a boosted Poison Jab so I thought it would be wise to sacrifice her in exchange for bringing Cobalion to Rocky Helmet range as I rather not risk Tangrowth getting flinched to death by Cobalion. I was surprised he Lunar Danced so early, I much rather have had Registeel on in Haxorus so I could Thunder Wave and get a certain win on a paralyzed Haxorus but the way it worked out was fine too as long as Leech Seed didn't miss twice in a row since +2 Poison Jab will won't OHKO Tangrowth. After the Leech seed hits I win by recoil in a haxy game. If I didn't get both the Scald burns he could have got more hazards and probably been significantly better than me out of the lead match up but probably not winning yet. Instead I got the burn and the opposite happened in terms of my game evaluation. Essentially I got lucky in game one.
Game two I brought what USED to be my best ORAS UU stall team until I made the team above. Now that I think of it I believe I played Pyschotic with this team before and lost to him but I didn't remember that until now so that didn't influence my play. Initially I think I have a very good match up; the only thing that has me worried is a possible mixed or SD Abomasnow; Tangrowth can counter SD Abomasnow but instantly dies to Blizzard while mixed sets can damage everything badly depending on its moves. He proves me wrong though and I'm actually basically almost completely lost in the teambuilding stage with some unexpected sets. Anyways I get a lucky Scald burn to start off again but I immediately follow by playing inaccurately but using Rapid Spin on an expected SR; Knock Off was the move to play there since even +1 burned Cobalion does nothing to Tentacruel while taking off leftovers would have been supremely helpful for anything and I could still spin on the burned Cobalion. When he gets Abomasnow in I play the safe move and go to Steelix knowing I can take anything but a Blizzard puts me in low health. Thinking Blissey can wall it I go straight to Blissey only to become set up fodder for Growth Abomasnow which forces me to sacrifice Tentacruel to get Abomasnow in death range via Liquid Ooze. Too much damage is done though and Sub CM Chandelure which I expected would sweep me any moment now. Also opposing Toxic Spikes would be incredibly difficult to remove. We play a little tickle so to speak with Reuniclus and Slowking but since I have Flash I'm confident I can beat last Pokemon Reuniclus but if Psychotic ever decided to transition into that sort of endgame. When he reveals he has Taunt Chandelure I may as well forfeit and the moves I make thereafter are relying solely on hax (Fire Blast miss, no Scald burns, Flash induced misses) because I know any strategic play at this point is beyond my reach. After Crobat dies I have enough of delaying the inevitable and forfeit. To be perfectly honest I was pretty lucky in this game too with a Scald burn and Fire Blast miss but it wasn't nearly enough to win the game. If not right during the teambuilding stage, realistically speaking I was probably lost when Tentacruel died.
Game three I brought a basically worse version of my first team except Abomsnow Mega tends to be able to do heavy damage to any offensive team if it gets an opening and has its weakness covered, which stall obviously provides. The team matchup is great for me unless he runs Sub CM Cressy because Alomomola walls so much of his team and just vomits out Toxic all day. Empoleon is a nuisance though and actually pretty nice versus stall since it has a Toxic immunity and Defog. I let Registeel take unnecessary damage and close to Tyrantrum's Head Smashable range but get very lucky when my Roared Wish recovers Registeel. He still maintains some nice pressure though for many turns just wearing down my team which surges at turn 34 where he almost KOs Alomomola with a not even max Head Smash roll from Tyrantrum. If he killed Alomomola I would have been close to lost. With Regenerator though the game goes on and I am feeling more desperate and just wondering where my advantage went because I know I had the match up advantage but I felt like I'm barely holding on during the game. Turn 40 though he plays far too safely and uses Roost to get out of a potential Ice Shard range from Abomasnow, letting in Registeel for free. I start to play a little riskier from there setting up SR on the expected U-Turn and switching Gligar into a Mega Ampharos which all work out for me. A crucial Head Smash miss on turn 47 lets me keep Gligar and suddenly I am the one who is close to winning. I was so certain he wouldn't keep Empoleon in so I went to Registeel to get Leftovers and possible double on a Scyther switch in but he does stay in and I look a little silly. Registeel dies without being able to set up SR but brings Empoleon into very low health. He continues to make good switches which lets him get SR up again at the cost of his Empoleon and builds some slight pressure from nowhere. A crucial critical hit on Turn 70 costs me me Alomomola - I could have avoided it completely by going to Gligar because Alomomola walls his team and I knew this during the game, I just felt like I would be winning anyways if he critted me. But I miscalculate Poison damage so I have to bluff Ice Shard to win which somehow works out. After he reveals he is not Sub CM Cressy and I get the Aromatherapy off I am pretty certain I know what the endgame will be - Cresselia desperately trying to kill and stay alive while Leech Seeded, Scald burned, and at -6 accuracy while facing a Slowking it cannot OHKO. This occurs later in the game. Technically he could hit and crit with all his moves still but that doesn't happen and I win in another lucky game .
To sum up all three games: I had to hax a rusty Psychotic in order to barely win despite having overall quite reasonable match ups against teams he made in 30 minutes total.
PS: Just one word about stall in general. Psychotic obviously brought some very anti stall sets like CB Tyrantrum, SD Haxorus, Taunt Sharpedo and sooooo many other boosting sweepers. I think everyone knows he wouldn't have brought those type of sets (or I should say at least so many of them) if he wasn't playing a stall player. The point is that if you don't constantly spew out posts about stall on the forums and you bring a very good stall team to a ORAS UU game, you're going to more than likely have a great match up because stall is such a good play style right now.
Game one I brought what I think is my best stall team right now while Psychotic brought hyper offense with a Custap Forry. Match up wise I think I have a slight advantage, I have pretty solid counters for everything except Haxorus which I immediately presume to be SD since he knows I'm a stall player. I expect minor tweaks on his sets like Ice Beam on Sharpedo and Lum Berry on Cobalion but I'm pretty comfortable still. I immediately start haxing him by getting 100% Scald burns with Swampert which lets me kill Forry and Bannette in exchange for him getting SR + Spikes + burn on Swampert. To be completely honest if he didn't have Ice Beam Sharpedo or Calm Mind Cobalion or Sub CM Cressy, which he didn't, then I'm pretty sure my position is already completely 100% winning if I play accurately for the rest of the game by turn 6. Then I remember I don't run enough speed on Mence to beat max speed Haxorus but he isn't running max so after I get the Defog in exchange for losing Mence I'm basically completely winning if Leech Seed doesn't miss versus Haxorus which it doesn't. Florges wasn't taking a boosted Poison Jab so I thought it would be wise to sacrifice her in exchange for bringing Cobalion to Rocky Helmet range as I rather not risk Tangrowth getting flinched to death by Cobalion. I was surprised he Lunar Danced so early, I much rather have had Registeel on in Haxorus so I could Thunder Wave and get a certain win on a paralyzed Haxorus but the way it worked out was fine too as long as Leech Seed didn't miss twice in a row since +2 Poison Jab will won't OHKO Tangrowth. After the Leech seed hits I win by recoil in a haxy game. If I didn't get both the Scald burns he could have got more hazards and probably been significantly better than me out of the lead match up but probably not winning yet. Instead I got the burn and the opposite happened in terms of my game evaluation. Essentially I got lucky in game one.
Game two I brought what USED to be my best ORAS UU stall team until I made the team above. Now that I think of it I believe I played Pyschotic with this team before and lost to him but I didn't remember that until now so that didn't influence my play. Initially I think I have a very good match up; the only thing that has me worried is a possible mixed or SD Abomasnow; Tangrowth can counter SD Abomasnow but instantly dies to Blizzard while mixed sets can damage everything badly depending on its moves. He proves me wrong though and I'm actually basically almost completely lost in the teambuilding stage with some unexpected sets. Anyways I get a lucky Scald burn to start off again but I immediately follow by playing inaccurately but using Rapid Spin on an expected SR; Knock Off was the move to play there since even +1 burned Cobalion does nothing to Tentacruel while taking off leftovers would have been supremely helpful for anything and I could still spin on the burned Cobalion. When he gets Abomasnow in I play the safe move and go to Steelix knowing I can take anything but a Blizzard puts me in low health. Thinking Blissey can wall it I go straight to Blissey only to become set up fodder for Growth Abomasnow which forces me to sacrifice Tentacruel to get Abomasnow in death range via Liquid Ooze. Too much damage is done though and Sub CM Chandelure which I expected would sweep me any moment now. Also opposing Toxic Spikes would be incredibly difficult to remove. We play a little tickle so to speak with Reuniclus and Slowking but since I have Flash I'm confident I can beat last Pokemon Reuniclus but if Psychotic ever decided to transition into that sort of endgame. When he reveals he has Taunt Chandelure I may as well forfeit and the moves I make thereafter are relying solely on hax (Fire Blast miss, no Scald burns, Flash induced misses) because I know any strategic play at this point is beyond my reach. After Crobat dies I have enough of delaying the inevitable and forfeit. To be perfectly honest I was pretty lucky in this game too with a Scald burn and Fire Blast miss but it wasn't nearly enough to win the game. If not right during the teambuilding stage, realistically speaking I was probably lost when Tentacruel died.
Game three I brought a basically worse version of my first team except Abomsnow Mega tends to be able to do heavy damage to any offensive team if it gets an opening and has its weakness covered, which stall obviously provides. The team matchup is great for me unless he runs Sub CM Cressy because Alomomola walls so much of his team and just vomits out Toxic all day. Empoleon is a nuisance though and actually pretty nice versus stall since it has a Toxic immunity and Defog. I let Registeel take unnecessary damage and close to Tyrantrum's Head Smashable range but get very lucky when my Roared Wish recovers Registeel. He still maintains some nice pressure though for many turns just wearing down my team which surges at turn 34 where he almost KOs Alomomola with a not even max Head Smash roll from Tyrantrum. If he killed Alomomola I would have been close to lost. With Regenerator though the game goes on and I am feeling more desperate and just wondering where my advantage went because I know I had the match up advantage but I felt like I'm barely holding on during the game. Turn 40 though he plays far too safely and uses Roost to get out of a potential Ice Shard range from Abomasnow, letting in Registeel for free. I start to play a little riskier from there setting up SR on the expected U-Turn and switching Gligar into a Mega Ampharos which all work out for me. A crucial Head Smash miss on turn 47 lets me keep Gligar and suddenly I am the one who is close to winning. I was so certain he wouldn't keep Empoleon in so I went to Registeel to get Leftovers and possible double on a Scyther switch in but he does stay in and I look a little silly. Registeel dies without being able to set up SR but brings Empoleon into very low health. He continues to make good switches which lets him get SR up again at the cost of his Empoleon and builds some slight pressure from nowhere. A crucial critical hit on Turn 70 costs me me Alomomola - I could have avoided it completely by going to Gligar because Alomomola walls his team and I knew this during the game, I just felt like I would be winning anyways if he critted me. But I miscalculate Poison damage so I have to bluff Ice Shard to win which somehow works out. After he reveals he is not Sub CM Cressy and I get the Aromatherapy off I am pretty certain I know what the endgame will be - Cresselia desperately trying to kill and stay alive while Leech Seeded, Scald burned, and at -6 accuracy while facing a Slowking it cannot OHKO. This occurs later in the game. Technically he could hit and crit with all his moves still but that doesn't happen and I win in another lucky game .
To sum up all three games: I had to hax a rusty Psychotic in order to barely win despite having overall quite reasonable match ups against teams he made in 30 minutes total.
PS: Just one word about stall in general. Psychotic obviously brought some very anti stall sets like CB Tyrantrum, SD Haxorus, Taunt Sharpedo and sooooo many other boosting sweepers. I think everyone knows he wouldn't have brought those type of sets (or I should say at least so many of them) if he wasn't playing a stall player. The point is that if you don't constantly spew out posts about stall on the forums and you bring a very good stall team to a ORAS UU game, you're going to more than likely have a great match up because stall is such a good play style right now.
Thank you Pif for the in depth analysis, thats awesome. If Psychotic makes an analysis I will post it on his behalf.
Anyway, Week 6 has begun! Pick 3 users you want to see battle! Check the OP to see who has battled so you do not vote for them please.
My noms: King UU, Clarion/Euphonos, hogg
Edit: Maybe Tewmew too
Anyway, Week 6 has begun! Pick 3 users you want to see battle! Check the OP to see who has battled so you do not vote for them please.
My noms: King UU, Clarion/Euphonos, hogg
Edit: Maybe Tewmew too
King UU
DMt
Edit:Hogg
DMt
Edit:Hogg
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dingbat
hogg
clarion/euphonos
hogg
clarion/euphonos
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