Battle Spot Past Generations Discussion Thread

DragonWhale

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Past Generations Discussion Thread

Talk about the Battle Spot formats of past generations here. I don't expect this to be a really active thread but it's important to keep track of our history :heart:. It's mostly for people who either joined Battle Spot in Sun and Moon and wants to know what it was like in past generations, or people who want to share their thoughts on these formats either by comparing it to Sun and Moon or through their experiences in future tournaments that involve these metagames.

Link to Gen 6 Battle Spot: http://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/gen-6-battle-spot.392/

Link to Gen 5 Battle Spot (Global Battle Union): http://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/global-battle-union.171/

Long live the Queen, based Mega Kangaskhan.
 
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Considering there isn't really a better place to dump this and I probably won't use them again, here's all my GBU teams except the best one that I might have to whip out if GBU ever sees some kind of tour or somth. Anyway, here's my low effort team dump

Rain is cool obv, made this with some help from Cant Say (like every other team) and it felt decent enough. Only pulled it out against Feen where Toxicroak proved to be a total beast, although in hindsight there was no reason not to bring it in the finals once it was clear that it was a very dumb team designed to CT the same builds I was bringing every game (aka not rain)
Politoed @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast
- Hypnosis

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Draco Meteor
- Ice Beam
- Dragon Pulse

Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Power Whip
- Leech Seed

Thundurus @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunder Wave
- Thunder
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Focus Blast

Volcarona @ Lum Berry
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Fire Blast
- Giga Drain

Toxicroak @ Muscle Band
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Drain Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Ice Punch

Dragonspam was the first team I made, thought it'd be funny with no fairies but I didn't really comprehend exactly how stupid it was before Sylveon and co. While it ended up getting tamed down to just 4 Dragons, it's still a boatload of fun. Like rain, it's all p basic and I dont see the need to explain the sets much
Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Extreme Speed
- Fire Punch

Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Iron Tail

Latios @ Yache Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Surf

Tyranitar @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Stone Edge
- Superpower

Magnezone @ Occa Berry
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon

Garchomp @ Lum Berry
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Fire Blast

Jibaku gave me a framework of Lati+Ttar+Ferro and I made+used 3 different variants, but this was my favorite. Specs lati is really really stupid and sash ttar is incredible at trading with most things not named suicune, which lati checks and ferro covers. The rest is fairly offensive with blaziken being ye old strong cleaner, exca being other ye old strong cleaner that's better at beating cress but requires you also bring ttar 99% of the time, and Suicune is just a very good mon for checking random stuff when you realize that you need to blanket defensive switchin to all those threats rather than just relying on a ton of offensive pressure.
Latios @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Surf
- Trick

Tyranitar @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 168 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 84 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Crunch
- Superpower
- Fire Blast
- Ice Beam

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Gyro Ball
- Power Whip
- Leech Seed
- Stealth Rock

Blaziken @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
Level: 50
EVs: 244 Atk / 52 SpA / 212 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 30 HP / 30 Def
- Flare Blitz
- High Jump Kick
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Protect

Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

Suicune @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pressure
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 100 Spe
Relaxed Nature
- Sheer Cold
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Mirror Coat
cavs #1!
 

RNGIsFatal

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I am not sure if this team is new (p sure someone addressed this), but this is my favorite toy in ORAS BSS:

Liepard @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 44 HP / 238 Def / 228 Spe
Timid Nature
- Assist
- Foul Play
- Swagger
- Substitute

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Level: 50
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 54 SpD
Impish Nature
- Focus Punch
- Counter
- Spore
- Protect

Ditto @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Imposter
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Transform

Tyranitar-Mega @ Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream
Level: 50
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Dragon Dance

Talonflame @ Life Orb
Ability: Gale Wings
Level: 50
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 28 SpD / 52 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Swords Dance
- Roost

Gengar @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Icy Wind
- Destiny Bond


Assuming I send Liepard, Breloom, and Ditto, Assist will always call the move Spore which has Prankster priority that no one is safe from, except Talonflame and Grass-types.

Talonflame punishes Grass-types that are lured by the first three (aforementioned) members, Tyranitar deals with opposing Talonflame and Thunderus-I (that can paralyze or Taunt Liepard first). Gengar has always been a premier revenge killer that can take down any troublesome opponent for my team, assuming SR is not there or I send it as a lead.

Very uncompetitive and luck-based... but fun as hell when it works. I always had to hide the chat when I used this team.

Lastly, for those who don't understand what this team does... I put a video here. Not advertising, just a reference.
I know it is not in English but you should be able to tell what is going on.

DISCLAIMER: not my video
i.e. First battle Garchomp uses Sleep Talk. It later Sleep Talks while it is awake and it fails.
 
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Jhon

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Dumping a handful GBU sets I made and brought to the BSSClassic. I did no research prepping for this gen, just used knowledge and experience from oras/sm bss and bw ou (the last time I played ou semi-seriously). But I came up with some pretty interesting stuff, imo.


Mamoswine @ Chople Berry
Ability: Thick Fat
Level: 50
EVs: 12 HP / 52 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
Hits 136 speed, which is 2 points faster than Jolly Breloom.
3-hit Spear KOs both 4/0 Breloom and Multiscale Dragonite.
The bulk is what's interesting though.
+1 252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 12 HP / 252 Def Mamoswine: 157-186 (83.9 - 99.4%) , Allowing it to take on DD or CB Dnite
252 Atk Fighting Gem Terrakion Close Combat vs. 12 HP / 252 Def Chople Berry Mamoswine: 139-165 (74.3 - 88.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 12 HP / 252 Def Chople Berry Mamoswine: 136-161 (72.7 - 86%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Chople allows it to act as a pretty effective lure to these common Fighting-types without having the same worries as Sash does in regards to SR. And letting something else have the Sash.


Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Level: 50
EVs: 204 HP / 52 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Low Sweep
- Bullet Seed
- Substitute
- Spore
Without Spore immunes I think this style of set is more effective than the standard Sash SD Breloom. It can completely control the game after it's been given an opening.
I use Bullet Seed and not Bulk Up as I just find boosting unnecessary, you beat most thing slowly by cylcing Spore-Sub and Low Sweep anyway. Having Bullet Seed means you're not hard walled by Jellicent or other Ghosts and are able to take on threats such as Sub Suicune more effectively.
Speed can be reworked on this set. 134 isn't actually too valuable, really just playing for ties, and more bulk would likely be a positive more often.


Conkeldurr @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Guts
Level: 50
EVs: 84 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Ice Punch
- Toxic
Chesto lets it check Breloom if positioned well, while Guts take's advantage of other status afflictions. This saves the Lum for another mon, if needed. Heavy SpDef investment is to better bulk it up against some of the major threats of this metagame and Toxic was to catch the common Cress switch-in, among other defensive mons such as Jellicent and Suicune.



Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Dragon Tail
- Stealth Rock
- Endure

A kind of ORAS OU looking Tank Chomp. Endure with Rough Skin + Rocky Helmet can be pretty devestating against the right mons. But Fire Blast or Toxic could work just as well in that last slot to improve its effectiveness against Scizor or Cress respectively.


Scizor @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Quick Attack
Okay, this one isn't too interesting but I didn't see anyone else using it. Quick Attack is a pretty nice tech as it does more damage to common threats such as Blaziken, Thundurus, Gyarados, Kingdra etc.; it can come in pretty clutch. This isn't restricted to CB either, SD sets can use it just as well, though working with one fewer attack does make it harder to find the room for it.

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Another small thing worth considering is Lum Berry on fast setup sweepers, to hamper the effectiveness of Thundrus's Prankster T-Wave. Blaziken and Cloyster are both strong examples of this. Dragonite of course often runs this anyway as it works very well with Outrage.
 

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I was making a set dump too, but Jhon beat me to it :psyduck: These might not necessarily be cool or unique sets, but they're sets that I very much enjoyed and think are pretty decent in the meta.


Ferrothorn @ Leftovers / Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Gyro Ball
- Bullet Seed / Power Whip
- Leech Seed
- Stealth Rock / Thunder Wave / Protect

This thing is just so good; I have it on all but two of my teams, and one of those two was Hyper Offense anyways. Ferrothorn is a splashable Dragon-type and Rain check that's easy to fit onto most teams, which takes care of two enormous threats in one slot. The EVs dodge the 2HKO from a Choice Specs Kingdra Hydro Pump under Rain without rocks up, and the rest is dumped in Defense. It used to have 196 SpD EVs, but after running some calcs I couldn't figure out what it did so I squeezed a free Defense point out of it.


Magnezone @ Choice Specs
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 50
EVs: 108 HP / 252 SpA / 148 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Although this definitely isn't as solid a Dragon-type check as Ferrothorn, it still stops things like Latios and Garchomp from tearing through with Draco Meteor or Outrage. It's also a decent option against Suicune, Thundurus, Scizor, and most Pokemon if Sturdy is intact. This is the bulkier of the 2 spreads I've used, outspeeding 4 Speed Heatran. Another far faster and frailer spread of 36 HP / 252 SpA / 220 Spe outspeeds 4 Speed Rotom formes at the cost of a lot of bulk.


Latias @ Chesto Berry / Lum Berry / Rocky Helmet
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 56 SpA / 84 SpD / 40 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Psychic
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
- Hidden Power [Fire] / Thunder Wave / Healing Wish

A few things that give Latias an edge over other bulky Psychic-types such as Cresselia and Slowbro are its secondary Dragon-typing, allowing it to better check Electric-types such as Thundurus and certain Fighting-types, namely Breloom and Blaziken. Its forme of recovery, Roost, is also unaffected by the weather, a huge detriment to Cresselia. The SpD investment dodges the 2HKO from LO Thundurus-I's HP Ice before SR; the Speed investment outspeeds Jolly Breloom; the SpA EVs guarantee the OHKO on Blaziken with Psychic, and the Defense is a dump. The berries are good for optimizing the Breloom MU and random paras, burns, or toxics. Rocky Helmet is nice for some extra chip on other random Pokemon. Lefties and Sitrus Berry can be used too, but should probably be EVed differently because of the extra recovery. A faster spread could be used to get the jump on stuff like Garchomp and Thundurus-T, but I prefer Latias's defensive qualities.


Politoed @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest / Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Surf / Scald
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast

Choice Scarf Politoed is a pretty cool revenge killer, with its main appeal being a answer to Sand. It can also support Fire-type weak teammates such as Ferrothorn and Scizor, perhaps not with stuff like Blaziken, but more Fire-type coverage from stuff like Latios. It packs a decent punch as well, especially with Modest. Random utility options such as Encore, Perish Song, and Hypnosis work, but I prefer 4 attacks. Modest, as I mentioned, gives more oof, but Timid outspeeds +1 Adamant Gyarados (you can't do much without HP Electric though), +1/Choice Scarf base 80s, +1 Jolly Tyranitar and random, mostly irrelevant things above 115 speed.

Thankfully, I saved the best for last...


Octillery @ Leftovers
Ability: Moody
Level: 50
EVs: 212 HP / 44 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Substitute
- Protect
- Dive
- Bind

OK, I know what you're thinking: "Why not Glalie?" I brought Glalie to both my finals games planning to skillfully™ out play my opponents, and... It's just really, really underwhelming: you cannot get anywhere without seeing one of Conkeldurr, Breloom, or Scizor, who all hard stop Glalie with their super-effective priority. After my games Jhon convinced me on Discord that Octillery was most likely the best option for Moody, which makes a lot of sense; it ditches the problems with super-effective priority, and Dive helps you a lot in racking up extra boosts. I slapped on Bind for consistent damage on Pokemon such as Ferrothorn and Suicune, and there was no going back. Max Speed for the fastest Subs, HP optimized for Leftovers, rest in SpD. Admittedly due to its lower speed Octillery is a lot more reliant on paralysis than Glalie, but I'm still convinced Octillery's the best option, odd as it may seem.

So that was part of my experience with GBU in BSS Classic. Is it perfect? Of course not, Dragon-types and weather can at times be a bit... too good. Is it fun and open to exploration? Sure is. Hopefully GBU'll get back in the game for BSPL. Whether it does or not, I'll see you guys then!
 
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Ika Ika Musume

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I'll pop the GBU team I used vs. Dark here too that I created as an anti-weather team. You literally struggle hard to beat this team if you are playing as rain which was very popular playstyle in the GBU scrims I played, which limits the opponents options severely. Made this last minute more as a bit of fun than very serious on the sets. Certainly a very janky team, but I had a lot of fun using it.



Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed
- Protect

Ferrothorn is basically the best rain check in the game, defensive as well to take on physical hits. Honestly if you need a rain check, place this boy right on your team. Other than that, max defence with rocky helmet to chip away at physical attackers like outrage from drake teams. Generally I like having this in the back once rain is set up rather than as a lead. If you play ferro right in any gen, it's an S mon, you need balls to use mons like ferro to their full potential.



Rotom-Wash @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 60 HP / 212 SpA / 4 SpD / 228 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Trick
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Rotom-W I didn't bring too much, but another powerhouse in the tier. Specs pump hits like a truck, the Speed investment to outspeed jolly loom, Hp ice there for drakes. Trick for fat. I was considering changing this out for banded Dnite which I think is a phenomenal mon in both GBU and ORAS BSS, but haven't done yet.



Hitmonlee @ Normal Gem
Ability: Unburden
Level: 50
EVs: 148 Atk / 188 Def / 172 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- High Jump Kick
- Blaze Kick
- Stone Edge

Ah hitmonlee the GOAT himself. The defense investment there to eat adamant band loom or scizor bullet punch. Can blow both these mons back, koing scizor even in rain with blaze kick. After unburden it outspeeds everything in the game. HJK sends driller and ttar packing, stone edge for coverage. After a life orb hit, can use it to revenge kingdra.



Gengar @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 248 SpA / 12 SpD / 248 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball/Icy Wind/Destiny Bond
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Focus Blast

Ah, another don right here in sash gar, one of my main leads. Put this on because I thought, gengar is actually kinda amazing in old gens. This thing wipes out teams on its own. I nearly got the GBU game vs. Finalist Dark just using this mon but decided to make a dumb play. Shadow ball for the stab, Hp fire for scizor, focus blast for stuff like zone, ttar, ferrothorn etc. then one coverage move. I personally like icy wind, but destiny bond can be great too.



Gyarados @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
EVs: 76 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 172 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang

Ah good old gyarados. Another wind-up to rain. Sub-Dd with max attack adamant for the power. Can sub on adamant loom spore if need be. Rest put in HP. Yes does great vs. Rain and as a general sweeper but also excellent vs dragon teams due to intimidate and ice fang.



Thundurus @ Magnet
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 52 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 12 SpD / 188 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Rain Dance/Hp Flying
- Focus Blast
- Thunder

My second lead, works vs. Toed or Tar perfect. Magnet is enough to knock out Toed so no need for electric gem. Substitute is for stalling Kingdra in rain. Rain dance for Sand. You can put HP Flying over Rain dance if you are feeling a little less heat and want a conk/loom check.

Unfortunately I only played 1 week of GBU so I didn't really get a chance to properly learn the meta.

Also although it is not mostly my team as I mostly adapted it from a top Japanese team, I recommend anyone playing ORAS BSS to pick up this team. Crushed face pretty much every time I brought it out in scrims. Got the ever popular Kangaskhan + Cresselia Core with two late ORAS powerhouses in the Specs Volc and Banded DNite, finally got emergency check in Cloyster and disrupter in Thundurus. I also gave it to Dark who had good showings with it in tournament.



Kangaskhan-Mega @ Kangaskhanite
Ability: Parental Bond
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Double-Edge

Fastest possible mega Kang which allows it to gain information in the mirror lead turn 1 that it wouldnt otherwise. Key to using it is scouting fake out turn 1 damage, bulky opposing kang go to cresselia.



Cresselia @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Trick Room
- Toxic
- Moonlight

Moonblast is chosen over any other offensive move for dark type switch ins. This team already has volc checks so doesn't need cress to be able to put damage out for that. Trick room is for the situation where you are in vs. mega kang, you can trick room so if they double (lets say into greninja), you win either ways.



Volcarona @ Choice Specs
Ability: Swarm
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 116 HP / 228 Def / 124 SpA / 4 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Overheat
- Fiery Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Psychic

This EV spread is essentially for mega blaziken. Always lives flare blitz from mega blaziken, KOs with Psychic. Lives rock tomb from garchomp over than 1 number, 1 shots with bug buzz. Can also live a waterfall from regular Gyarados. Fiery Dance can allow you to break through Porygon2.



Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 68 HP / 228 Atk / 12 Def / 4 SpD / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Extreme Speed
- Superpower

There as a check to opposing volcarona. It always lives pretty much every ice attack including +1 Porygon2 ice beam, gren ice beam. Outspeeds adamant loom. Mostly lives 3 hits of mamo icicle spear. Also incidentally hits like an absolute truck



Thundurus @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 196 HP / 252 Def / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic
- Substitute
- Protect

Always takes +6 Azumarill Aqua jet which can otherwise wind up the team. Just a stalling set there to wind up fatter mons.



Cloyster @ Focus Sash
Ability: Skill Link
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 156 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Ice Shard
- Shell Smash

Speed allows an outspeed of Mega lopunny after shell smash. Pretty much there as a dragon check. Great sweeper in general to have in the back
 
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Classic Usage Stats:

Gen 5:
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+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Breloom            |   21 |  43.75% |  71.43% |
| 2    | Thundurus          |   19 |  39.58% |  52.63% |
| 2    | Suicune            |   19 |  39.58% |  52.63% |
| 2    | Latios             |   19 |  39.58% |  52.63% |
| 5    | Scizor             |   18 |  37.50% |  61.11% |
| 6    | Ferrothorn         |   16 |  33.33% |  31.25% |
| 7    | Tyranitar          |   14 |  29.17% |  35.71% |
| 8    | Conkeldurr         |   11 |  22.92% |  36.36% |
| 8    | Blaziken           |   11 |  22.92% |  36.36% |
| 10   | Dragonite          |   10 |  20.83% |  60.00% |
| 10   | Cresselia          |   10 |  20.83% |  50.00% |
| 12   | Garchomp           |    8 |  16.67% |  62.50% |
| 12   | Excadrill          |    8 |  16.67% |  62.50% |
| 12   | Politoed           |    8 |  16.67% |  50.00% |
| 15   | Kingdra            |    7 |  14.58% |  42.86% |
| 16   | Gyarados           |    6 |  12.50% |  50.00% |
| 16   | Gliscor            |    6 |  12.50% |  33.33% |
| 18   | Cloyster           |    5 |  10.42% | 100.00% |
| 18   | Mamoswine          |    5 |  10.42% |  60.00% |
| 18   | Thundurus-Therian  |    5 |  10.42% |  60.00% |
| 18   | Rotom-Wash         |    5 |  10.42% |  40.00% |
| 22   | Volcarona          |    4 |   8.33% | 100.00% |
| 22   | Heatran            |    4 |   8.33% |  25.00% |
| 24   | Magnezone          |    3 |   6.25% |  66.67% |
| 24   | Hippowdon          |    3 |   6.25% |  33.33% |
| 24   | Salamence          |    3 |   6.25% |   0.00% |
| 24   | Chansey            |    3 |   6.25% |   0.00% |
| 24   | Porygon2           |    3 |   6.25% |   0.00% |
| 24   | Zapdos             |    3 |   6.25% |   0.00% |
| 30   | Wobbuffet          |    2 |   4.17% | 100.00% |
| 30   | Hydreigon          |    2 |   4.17% |  50.00% |
| 30   | Latias             |    2 |   4.17% |  50.00% |
| 30   | Tornadus-Therian   |    2 |   4.17% |   0.00% |
| 30   | Jellicent          |    2 |   4.17% |   0.00% |
| 30   | Glalie             |    2 |   4.17% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Venusaur           |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Ninetales          |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Zoroark            |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Ditto              |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Gothitelle         |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Raikou             |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Weavile            |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Espeon             |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Reuniclus          |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Starmie            |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Sableye            |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Cobalion           |    1 |   2.08% | 100.00% |
| 36   | Terrakion          |    1 |   2.08% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Skarmory           |    1 |   2.08% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Hitmonlee          |    1 |   2.08% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Gengar             |    1 |   2.08% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Landorus-Therian   |    1 |   2.08% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Abomasnow          |    1 |   2.08% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Piloswine          |    1 |   2.08% |   0.00% |
Gen 6:
Code:
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Kangaskhan         |   22 |  44.00% |  63.64% |
| 2    | Garchomp           |   21 |  42.00% |  57.14% |
| 3    | Gengar             |   19 |  38.00% |  31.58% |
| 4    | Thundurus          |   18 |  36.00% |  55.56% |
| 5    | Cresselia          |   17 |  34.00% |  70.59% |
| 6    | Talonflame         |   13 |  26.00% |  23.08% |
| 7    | Suicune            |   11 |  22.00% |  45.45% |
| 8    | Heatran            |   10 |  20.00% |  90.00% |
| 8    | Volcarona          |   10 |  20.00% |  70.00% |
| 8    | Salamence          |   10 |  20.00% |  30.00% |
| 11   | Heracross          |    7 |  14.00% |  85.71% |
| 11   | Azumarill          |    7 |  14.00% |  71.43% |
| 11   | Porygon2           |    7 |  14.00% |  14.29% |
| 14   | Hydreigon          |    6 |  12.00% |  83.33% |
| 14   | Blaziken           |    6 |  12.00% |   0.00% |
| 16   | Venusaur           |    5 |  10.00% |  80.00% |
| 16   | Landorus-Therian   |    5 |  10.00% |  80.00% |
| 16   | Greninja           |    5 |  10.00% |  60.00% |
| 16   | Cloyster           |    5 |  10.00% |  60.00% |
| 16   | Aegislash          |    5 |  10.00% |  40.00% |
| 16   | Breloom            |    5 |  10.00% |  40.00% |
| 16   | Mawile             |    5 |  10.00% |  20.00% |
| 16   | Excadrill          |    5 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 16   | Ferrothorn         |    5 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 25   | Dragonite          |    4 |   8.00% |  75.00% |
| 25   | Tyranitar          |    4 |   8.00% |  25.00% |
| 25   | Raikou             |    4 |   8.00% |  25.00% |
| 28   | Weavile            |    3 |   6.00% | 100.00% |
| 28   | Skarmory           |    3 |   6.00% |  66.67% |
| 28   | Gardevoir          |    3 |   6.00% |  66.67% |
| 28   | Rotom-Wash         |    3 |   6.00% |  66.67% |
| 28   | Lopunny            |    3 |   6.00% |  33.33% |
| 28   | Swampert           |    3 |   6.00% |  33.33% |
| 28   | Zapdos             |    3 |   6.00% |  33.33% |
| 28   | Hippowdon          |    3 |   6.00% |   0.00% |
| 28   | Espeon             |    3 |   6.00% |   0.00% |
| 37   | Metagross          |    2 |   4.00% | 100.00% |
| 37   | Gothitelle         |    2 |   4.00% | 100.00% |
| 37   | Sylveon            |    2 |   4.00% | 100.00% |
| 37   | Mamoswine          |    2 |   4.00% |   0.00% |
| 37   | Jellicent          |    2 |   4.00% |   0.00% |
| -    | Gourgeist-*        |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Rotom-Heat         |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Rhyperior          |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Conkeldurr         |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Terrakion          |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Togekiss           |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Thundurus-Therian  |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Klefki             |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Serperior          |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Sableye            |    1 |   2.00% | 100.00% |
| 42   | Slowbro            |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Chansey            |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Lucario            |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Alakazam           |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Gyarados           |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Altaria            |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Drifblim           |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Gliscor            |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Magnezone          |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Manectric          |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Charizard          |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
| 42   | Vivillon-River     |    1 |   2.00% |   0.00% |
 

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