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NOC Bigvivor Mafia Game Thread Day 5

the depressing thing is as horribly as realiti is playing, it’s hard to believe a town player does this

if he’s scum he’s v intentionally making himself mislynch bait that town will continually chicken out on bc it’s so outlandish that scum would acc behave this way and that’s a very boring way to play this game

everyone voting me today is throwing and that’s been perfectly breadcrumbed and more, I’m convinced realiti doesn’t read well enough to notice but everyone else on me is just playing badly

Drookez’ omgus is reasonable if he’s town but there’s huge cognitive dissonance between him being like “Cel just goes with the flow” and then ??? sheeps realiti like ok sleep on it and come back tomorrow Drookez
 
Celever said:
the depressing thing is as horribly as realiti is playing, it’s hard to believe a town player does this

if he’s scum he’s v intentionally making himself mislynch bait that town will continually chicken out on bc it’s so outlandish that scum would acc behave this way and that’s a very boring way to play this game

everyone voting me today is throwing and that’s been perfectly breadcrumbed and more, I’m convinced realiti doesn’t read well enough to notice but everyone else on me is just playing badly

Drookez’ omgus is reasonable if he’s town but there’s huge cognitive dissonance between him being like “Cel just goes with the flow” and then ??? sheeps realiti like ok sleep on it and come back tomorrow Drookez
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drookez isn't sheeping me lol
 
realiti said:
drookez isn't sheeping me lol
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Drookez doesn’t vote me after that interaction without you buzzing around the thread

same as Psy

all you’ve done today is get reactionary votes on me with level 1 reasoning that looks fine without deeper contemplation. People are going with you in the moment but you still literally have not built a frickin case and when you have attempted to you haven’t graced my responses to the case by replying to them or even reading them in some instances

you’re not scumhunting you’re celhunting and your gamethrowing
 
Celever said:
Drookez doesn’t vote me after that interaction without you buzzing around the thread

same as Psy

all you’ve done today is get reactionary votes on me with level 1 reasoning that looks fine without deeper contemplation. People are going with you in the moment but you still literally have not built a frickin case and when you have attempted to you haven’t graced my responses to the case by replying to them or even reading them in some instances

you’re not scumhunting you’re celhunting and your gamethrowing
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he has literally been answering your questions and saying that you're wrong and not reading his posts and being shady for like 3-4 pages what LOL
 
Celever said:
Drookez doesn’t vote me after that interaction without you buzzing around the thread

same as Psy

all you’ve done today is get reactionary votes on me with level 1 reasoning that looks fine without deeper contemplation. People are going with you in the moment but you still literally have not built a frickin case and when you have attempted to you haven’t graced my responses to the case by replying to them or even reading them in some instances

you’re not scumhunting you’re celhunting and your gamethrowing
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i literally do not even remember you replying to anything I've said LOL. you are really close to me just snapping at you but seeing as this is just an online mafia game I will avoid doing that
 
realiti said:
i literally do not even remember you replying to anything I've said LOL. you are really close to me just snapping at you but seeing as this is just an online mafia game I will avoid doing that
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Right because you’re not scumhunting so you don’t care what the response to your case is, it’s irrelevant to you because you don’t acc care if I’m scum or not you’re just tunnelling me
 
Celever said:
Right because you’re not scumhunting so you don’t care what the response to your case is, it’s irrelevant to you because you don’t acc care if I’m scum or not you’re just tunnelling me
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i can honestly say im not sheeping realiti. Ive said even a while ago that you are becoming more suspicious post by post during our interaction. And i typed up my vote before i saw what realiti posted. Again, even if you think im sheeping realiti, this is nothing like going with the flow. I think you are mafia thus I’m voting you. I still fail to see a strong statement from you about why im mafia and think i should be voted.
 
Drookez said:
i can honestly say im not sheeping realiti. Ive said even a while ago that you are becoming more suspicious post by post during our interaction. And i typed up my vote before i saw what realiti posted. Again, even if you think im sheeping realiti, this is nothing like going with the flow. I think you are mafia thus I’m voting you. I still fail to see a strong statement from you about why im mafia and think i should be voted.
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I mean I’m literally not voting for you rn so idk why I’d need to give you a statement as to why I’m voting you

The issue is that going with the flow might be used to describe my D4 but no prior day as I’ve said before, and that take that I’m going with the flow originates from realiti and isn’t really shared by anyone else because it’s not particularly true. The vote on you has had valid reasons explained for it that you can choose not to buy into, but it’s completely standard town mafia play
 
Celever said:
I mean I’m literally not voting for you rn so idk why I’d need to give you a statement as to why I’m voting you

The issue is that going with the flow might be used to describe my D4 but no prior day as I’ve said before, and that take that I’m going with the flow originates from realiti and isn’t really shared by anyone else because it’s not particularly true. The vote on you has had valid reasons explained for it that you can choose not to buy into, but it’s completely standard town mafia play
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not voting me but taking a stance of “i dont mind if he goes” effectively has the same outcome. It is interesting that you choose to unvote me but never started to look at other potential targets - can you explain why? Why not just stick with the vote if you aren’t even going to consider other options? In any case, if you could provide reasons again why I’m mafia or quote posts where it was said I would be more than happy to address your concerns.
 
Drookez said:
not voting me but taking a stance of “i dont mind if he goes” effectively has the same outcome. It is interesting that you choose to unvote me but never started to look at other potential targets - can you explain why? Why not just stick with the vote if you aren’t even going to consider other options? In any case, if you could provide reasons again why I’m mafia or quote posts where it was said I would be more than happy to address your concerns.
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Because I’m on my phone in bed trying to achieve a modicum of drowsiness and that’s not a great time to start looking for new scum lol

Also because I can talk myself out of every scumlean I have

And because I created the Laurel push at about this time on D3 that people jumped on and was wrong

I just find it really funny that your reason for sussing me is that I “go with the flow” but Ryo’s was “starting too many pushes”, I honestly agreed with Ryo’s reasoning to an extent but I just don’t agree with yours.

I guess the other thing I’d ask is do you think I am the #1 “going with the flow” player of this game? Because I know that I’m not and if your vote is predicated on that being scummy, then there are far better candidates. Assigning that logic to me really doesn’t work. Like, Eli’s been accused of going with the flow too much since about D2 and is in Tribe A. So why don’t you vote Eli if that’s your concern?

Not saying your mafia, for the fifteenth time.
 
18 players, 10 to majority. I am asking the following players to vote Celever, as I believe that this will have a high chance of hitting scum, and regardless of outcome makes the game more managable and fun to play due to the game having 5x less posts and less useless conversations.
Clouds
Da Letter El
dave
Drookez
Dyo
Nuxl
Psypsypsypsypsythe
Realiti
RyoDio
Vizh
Whydon

I am also just sick of having to come back and read Celever appealing to whoever has posted above him and going with the flow, asking a bunch of questions and doing nothing and then hopping to whatever he finds next, not ever solidifying actual scumreads or pushing anything (except the random ass useless case he made on Laurel who flipped town and can be found here). Even if he is town I believe that he is actively harming town by flooding the thread with bullshit., he will probably say that I am doing the same but at least I am pushing who I believe to be scum, even if is a bit forceful at times. The worst part is that since Celever is online 24/7, whenever I make a post I always have to engage in conversation because he always responds, and I know I have the upper hand because his logic is fucking awful but if I don't respond he will just drown out the thread again which is the most obnoxious thing ever.

Looking at this list, I think that a good amount of players are town and have expressed doubts in Celever so I do not think this is unreasonable to ask for. As I make mistakes and this is a large list of people I am sure that there are scum here so I am interested to see if people push back and what reasons they give, as everyone here has shaded Celever in some way or form already. Clouds knows that I am already not very fond of him, I am kind of warming up to him but I think that he still falls in the PoE and he has kind of died recently.

I would also appreciate it if Spiderz would help but he is a fucking LoL addict. shadowpea I would also appreciate help, but if you are busy with your tests that is understandable and I hope you do well in them. 177 pages is a lot.

Texas and UncleSam boggle my mind because I have a pretty high opinion of these two players but they seem to be making very bizarre decisions. Why is texas hunting for 3p and why is UncleSam trying to vote for the proven ability motivator? I also don't think that they are scum together because UncleSam was pushing Celever/Texas a long time ago when he was voting for Texas.

M2H I think could be scum through PoE and I think there is probably 1 scum between him and DLE
 
Celever said:
Because I’m on my phone in bed trying to achieve a modicum of drowsiness and that’s not a great time to start looking for new scum lol

Also because I can talk myself out of every scumlean I have

And because I created the Laurel push at about this time on D3 that people jumped on and was wrong

I just find it really funny that your reason for sussing me is that I “go with the flow” but Ryo’s was “starting too many pushes”, I honestly agreed with Ryo’s reasoning to an extent but I just don’t agree with yours.

I guess the other thing I’d ask is do you think I am the #1 “going with the flow” player of this game? Because I know that I’m not and if your vote is predicated on that being scummy, then there are far better candidates. Assigning that logic to me really doesn’t work. Like, Eli’s been accused of going with the flow too much since about D2 and is in Tribe A. So why don’t you vote Eli if that’s your concern?

Not saying your mafia, for the fifteenth time.
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It’s not just you going with the flow, otherwise i would have voted for you a long time ago when i first mentioned it. It’s a combination of that and questionable reasoning, randomly picking within a small pool of people, sussing me but don’t think I’m mafia etc etc idk i just don’t know where your head is at.

Do you think im mafia or not? If yes, why? If not, why did you vote me earlier and continue to suspect me now? Let’s start there.
 
realiti said:
18 players, 10 to majority. I am asking the following players to vote Celever, as I believe that this will have a high chance of hitting scum, and regardless of outcome makes the game more managable and fun to play due to the game having 5x less posts and less useless conversations.
Clouds
Da Letter El
dave
Drookez
Dyo
Nuxl
Psypsypsypsypsythe
Realiti
RyoDio
Vizh
Whydon

I am also just sick of having to come back and read Celever appealing to whoever has posted above him and going with the flow, asking a bunch of questions and doing nothing and then hopping to whatever he finds next, not ever solidifying actual scumreads or pushing anything (except the random ass useless case he made on Laurel who flipped town and can be found here). Even if he is town I believe that he is actively harming town by flooding the thread with bullshit., he will probably say that I am doing the same but at least I am pushing who I believe to be scum, even if is a bit forceful at times. The worst part is that since Celever is online 24/7, whenever I make a post I always have to engage in conversation because he always responds, and I know I have the upper hand because his logic is fucking awful but if I don't respond he will just drown out the thread again which is the most obnoxious thing ever.

Looking at this list, I think that a good amount of players are town and have expressed doubts in Celever so I do not think this is unreasonable to ask for. As I make mistakes and this is a large list of people I am sure that there are scum here so I am interested to see if people push back and what reasons they give, as everyone here has shaded Celever in some way or form already. Clouds knows that I am already not very fond of him, I am kind of warming up to him but I think that he still falls in the PoE and he has kind of died recently.

I would also appreciate it if Spiderz would help but he is a fucking LoL addict. shadowpea I would also appreciate help, but if you are busy with your tests that is understandable and I hope you do well in them. 177 pages is a lot.

Texas and UncleSam boggle my mind because I have a pretty high opinion of these two players but they seem to be making very bizarre decisions. Why is texas hunting for 3p and why is UncleSam trying to vote for the proven ability motivator? I also don't think that they are scum together because UncleSam was pushing Celever/Texas a long time ago when he was voting for Texas.

M2H I think could be scum through PoE and I think there is probably 1 scum between him and DLE
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Well it’s nice to have proof that everything I said was true and he just wasn’t even attempting to scumhunt

Town is in a better position from me pushing people’s posts than if I hadn’t done so. This is how mafia is played.

Y’all know that I’ve said that voting me today specifically is throwing and you can infer what you want from that.

Next time realiti plays I hope he tries to find the scum instead.

I’ll talk to you tomorrow Drookez
 
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