BL Tier

Abomasnow
Alakazam
Arcanine
Articuno
Blaziken
Charizard
Claydol
Cloyster
Drapion
Empoleon
Entei
Espeon
Exeggutor
Floatzel
Flygon
Gardevoir
Hariyama
Honchkrow
Jynx
Kingdra
Leafeon
Lickilicky
Ludicolo
Magmortar
Marowak
Medicham
Mesprit
Milotic
Miltank
Mismagius
Moltres
Ninjask
Porygon2
Ramparados
Regice
Regigigas
Regirock
Registeel
Roserade
Sceptile
Scizor
Scyther
Slaking
Shaymin
Shedinja
Smeargle
Snorlax
Spiritomb
Staraptor
Steelix
Tauros
Torterra
Umbreon
Uxie
Venusaur
Zangoose

That's what I think the BL tier should be as of now.
 
The only thing on that list that I feel ought to be UU is Shedinja. I have no idea how good Floatzel is (I bet it sucks, especially with a CB, though), so I'll have to hold off judgment on that.
 
I can live with that list. Toxicroak is the only pokemon I'm missing but only because I use it. Really it's much better off in UU on a Rain Dance team, but...
 
that list seems a lot better

then again i stand by my opinion that it's "too soon" but i guess nobody has a reason to care about my position lol
 
I should probably explain Shedinja.

First, it no longer has access to Hidden Power. Its physical movepool now consists of X-Scissor, Shadow Claw, Shadow Sneak, Aerial Ace, Return, and uh Natural Gift I guess. It's slow enough so that it can't really abuse Swords Dance (because if they have a counter, they're switching to it, and it's almost always faster and not OHKOed by Shadow Sneak). It can't Baton Pass Agilities (illegal combo), and if it uses Agility, it will still only get in one hit on its counter, just like if it attacked on the switch.

Stealth Rock is still easy to get on Pokemon in UU, as well as a bunch having Spikes and even Toxic Spikes, which instantly spell Shedinja's end.
 
i wanna talk about mamoswine, ambipom, cradily, scyther for UU contenders (the first one and latter two are UU for now, ambipom i put in BL)

anyone?
 
I think Mamoswine should be in BL at the very least, its really too powerful for UU with that base 130 attack as well as its decent base 80 speed .
It's also more common that alot of the pokemon currently on the BL list.

Cradily and Scyther are fine in the UU tier.
 
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